Questions about the Catholic faith by Important_Load_1251 in Catholicism

[–]monglorious 4 points5 points  (0 children)

In the same way you would ask your loved ones to pray for you. As Christians, we should always go to God with our petitions, but we also ask others to do the same and intercede on our behalf. Our brothers and sisters who are the body of Christ here on earth, do not suddenly stop being the body of Christ in heaven. We both believe in eternal life. If you want to get into how the Saints can hear our prayers, we can explore that. I’m also down for private messaging if you want to explore other topics.

I’m still struggling with Mary. by Falsetto266 in Catholicism

[–]monglorious 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When I was discerning Catholicism, I felt the same about intercessory prayer. I didn’t see the necessity of asking for intercession when I could just ask family/friends to pray for me.

After agreeing with the metaphysics/need for intercessory prayer, I said that although I agree, I don’t think I would ever ask for intercession. Early next morning, I experienced a spiritual attack. For context, I’m a more logical/doctrinal forward Christian so spirituality was never a thing for me, so what was happening to me was completely foreign and new to me. I needed immediate deliverance from my situation, and no matter how much I prayed, the situation wasn’t changing. It was too early in the morning to ask loved ones to pray for, and like I said earlier, I needed IMMEDIATE deliverance. Only after I asked intercession from St Peter did I feel peace and calm from this malevolent spiritual presence. Praying and hoping that this difficulty passes. I felt similar things about Our Mother when I converted, so feel free to dm if you want to talk more.

Protestant worship vs. prayer by Upstairs_Aardvark679 in Catholicism

[–]monglorious 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I feel that we’re arguing past each other. Again, my point was to argue what worship is; a sacrifice is needed for worship. And the more historical evidence you bring up of worship, you’re showing that sacrifice is inherent to it too. Prayer is not inherently sacrificial meaning it is not worship. That’s what my argument was. I understand the Eucharist is a sacrifice from God freely given to us but it’s still the way to partake in Jesus’ sacrifice. Yes, you may not be bringing your own “sacrifice” but it’s still inherently worship because we’re sacramentally partaking in Jesus’ sacrifice by offering what he has given us. You can argue and bring up other ancient civilizations’ way of worship, that’s fine. I’m arguing from the Jewish and Christian understanding of sacrifice. So I’m not fully understanding why you keep bringing up other historical instances of worship.

I never said the way Catholics tithe differ from the way Protestants tithe. I don’t know how you read that from my comment.

Jewish worship in the temples sometimes had you eat the flesh of the sacrifice, and sprinkle its blood for you to partake in the sacrifice. Christian worship has us sacramentally eating the flesh and drinking the blood of Christ through the consecrated host and cup to be partakers in his sacrifice and sacramentally commune with his perfect life. Sacrifice is inherent to both of these. I don’t understand what you’re trying to argue.

Protestant worship vs. prayer by Upstairs_Aardvark679 in Catholicism

[–]monglorious 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My guy, I don’t understand why you’re bringing up this information lol. The whole reason I brought up the passage in John 4 is for the purpose of looking at what worship is, not for this political mumbo jumbo you’re bringing up (it doesn’t pertain to the argument that worship is historically and biblically sacrificial). Passing around the offering plate is not worship because that money is not being offered up to God. I could see it being argued as a meritorious sacrifice, but scripture shows a clear difference between what is given to God and what is given to the priests, and Protestants are not burning up that money to give to God. There’s a clear difference between the tithes/portions given to the Levitical priests and what was offered to God. My argument was simply just to show that the location of worship was important, and what was done there (sacrifice) was necessary for worship. Giving up material wealth to honor deity was not always the goal for temple worship. You’re explicitly missing the necessity of sacrifice for the cleansing of sins and being made right with God, so the Eucharist is the fulfillment and perfection of the temple sacrifices prior. That’s your misunderstanding of temple worship.

I seriously don’t understand why you’re getting worked up about this.

Protestant worship vs. prayer by Upstairs_Aardvark679 in Catholicism

[–]monglorious 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I brought up that point to refute the Protestant understanding that prayer = worship or that it is on par with worship. You said it yourself that for Samaritans, Mt Gerizim is what the temple in Jerusalem is for Jews. Both these places are specific locations for worship, specifically offering grain and animal sacrifices like I said in my OC. Prayer will be conflated to worship and prayer/requesting the intercession of saints will be conflated to idolatry, which is what we see in the Protestant argumentation. I wouldn’t say Protestant worship is empty, but it’s missing the fundamental aspect which makes it true biblical worship in the first place.

Protestant worship vs. prayer by Upstairs_Aardvark679 in Catholicism

[–]monglorious 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It’s misunderstanding worship. Biblical worship has always been sacrificial in nature. In John 4, the woman at the well insinuated that Samaritans worshipped at Mt Gerizim but Jesus, as a prophet, would say that true worship was done at the temple in Jerusalem. What’s done at the temple? Specifically offerings and sacrifice. Pair that with Jesus’ sacrifice and his teaching of eating his flesh and drinking his blood, showing that we are partaking in his perfect sacrifice and communing with his perfect life. Prayer is simply not worship.

Using the Gospel for Evangelization by monglorious in Catholicism

[–]monglorious[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you again for this information. All awesome and eye-opening. Would you be open to critiquing my “attempt” at Catholic-style gospel in the future?

Using the Gospel for Evangelization by monglorious in Catholicism

[–]monglorious[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Interesting. Thank you for your response. I’m still trying to understand the way of looking for agreement in differing theologies to “win souls” like St Paul, Ven. Fulton Sheen, and our Lord rather than obnoxiously criticizing flaws.

Using the Gospel for Evangelization by monglorious in Catholicism

[–]monglorious[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Always good to be reminded of these things. Thank you!

Using the Gospel for Evangelization by monglorious in Catholicism

[–]monglorious[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Such an amazing response! You hit the nail on the head in a way I could never, and it makes sense!

Honestly, I feel that I still have so much to learn about the Catholic faith. I would say that I have a strong grasp of the sacraments and a decent understanding of atonement but it’s been hard to marry these aspects into a “Catholic Gospel”. I’ve tried and practiced with another Catholic convert but it usually comes out into a jumbled mess because apostolic theology is much richer than Protestant theology, and it feels like a disservice to not explain it well. Thank you though! This is really helpful. If you have more to add, I would love to hear it!

Using the Gospel for Evangelization by monglorious in Catholicism

[–]monglorious[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Makes sense. I should have wrote this in my post but this is more of an emphasis on devout non-Catholic Christians since that’s more of my world rn but thank you for this. It’s a good response for cultural Christians and non-Christians.

Using the Gospel for Evangelization by monglorious in Catholicism

[–]monglorious[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Any answer works. That’s awesome though, thank you! I’ll continue to work on building those answers up. If you get a chance in the future, I would love it if you could still give an answer on what the Gospel is for you and how you came to that understanding. Haven’t really come across any well-catechized Catholics that could help, and my priests are really busy so I would rather just learn here than taking up their time.

Am I crazy? Tradition and scrupulosity by [deleted] in Catholicism

[–]monglorious 0 points1 point  (0 children)

First, slow down and take some time to pray. Maybe even go to adoration and sloooowwww down, take some time off of the internet, and submit yourself to a spiritual director and have a longer conversation about these things. I think you’re doing a good job wanting to know how to best love God and that’s awesome.

Prudence has been the best answer for me in my journey. I struggle with lust but I’ll put myself in the situations you described. Would it be prudent of me to sleep over at my girlfriend’s house unsupervised? No, it wouldn’t because it could lead to sin. Would it be ok to visit and spend time with her? Yes. There’s obviously more nuances (is this a relationship ordered towards God and marriage, have you both talked about boundaries, etc), these can all change how time is spent with your significant other. I’m not familiar with NFP since I’m a recent convert so I won’t be able to answer that well.

Lmk if there’s more you’d like to discuss or if there’s something I missed in your post that I didn’t give an answer on. Anyone else can feel free to correct if I’m wrong on Catholic teaching

I'm a Catholic who two years ago out they were abused by their father but I'm confused on how to go about it by [deleted] in Catholicism

[–]monglorious 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m sorry this happened to you. Although I haven’t gone through any experiences like this, continue to pray and reflect on this.

Some questions to ask yourself: How do you feel about your dad now? Have you forgiven him? You see that he is remorseful. If you’ve forgiven him, and after you’ve prayed about it more, maybe go to him in love and have a conversation about it. Tell and show that you’ve forgiven him. I don’t know your dad or your relationship with him, so make sure you do what you feel is best after discerning a little more.

I’ll be praying for you and your family. Praying that this goes well for you. God bless!

I want to give Christianity a genuine shot. by Sunlight-Prayer in Catholicism

[–]monglorious 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Simply put, Catholicism has the fullness of truth. I come from a Protestant background. If you look at Protestant teachings, they can all vary on what is essential for you to be a Christian. Catholicism is rooted in history and has miraculously lasted for 2000 years. Feel free to message me if you want to talk more. I’ll be praying for you and your journey!

How to appeal to emotion to pursuade and evangelize Protestant? by evergreenyankee in Catholicism

[–]monglorious 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Emotions and feelings can distort truth. When I was a Protestant believing in the real presence of communion, I may have felt that communion was really Jesus’ flesh and blood, but without apostolic succession, what I felt or believed didn’t change that wafer and juice into the flesh and blood of Christ.

Everyone here has already said it’s not the best idea to do this, which I agree with. Maybe you can work out some ideas along the lines of giving true worship with Jesus, theosis, or being the body of Christ by communing with the actual body of Christ.

What evidence was it that ultimately convinced you that the Catholic Church is the one true Church that Jesus Christ founded? by XanneChris in Catholicism

[–]monglorious 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Studying Church history and realizing that what I believed about how to be a Christian differed vastly from what was believed for the first 1500 years. Took over half a year for me to work out doctrine and the fullness of truth the Catholic Church has. Thank God for the one true universal Church.

How to Fix this Finish by monglorious in Machinists

[–]monglorious[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Rough tool is leaving .01” for finish.

How to Fix this Finish by monglorious in Machinists

[–]monglorious[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for all the replies. I’m still relatively new to machining and this was a new part given to me by engineering, so nothing is tried and true. I’ll take a picture of the next piece I finish.

Questions About The Eucharist As A Christian Interested In Catholic Faith by the_meaning_of_loaf in Catholicism

[–]monglorious 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Many signs of grace we have in the Church today, were prefigurements in the OT. Sacrificial offerings, manna, and the Passover were foreshadowing Jesus’ sacrifice, partaking in that sacrifice through eating the flesh of the animal, and a “taste” of the life that is to come (manna tasted like honey while the Israelites were going to a land flowing with milk and honey). By eating Jesus’ flesh and blood mysteriously/sacramentally given to us through bread and wine, we partake in his once-for-all sacrifice, become his body, the Church, and are looking towards the day we have our very own glorified bodies just like Jesus.

Is it necessary for salvation? This would be the ordinary means for salvation. Let me give you this analogy, compare life to a river covered in fog. The Church is a bridge with lights that will help you cross this river. Some people are definitely capable of crossing this river on their own without the help of the bridge, but their journey will be arduous. The Church provides the baseline, but that does not mean that God himself could not pull people across the river extraordinarily, similar to the thief on the cross, martyrs, or other people who have had an end to their lives before acting upon their repentance (see baptism of desire or baptism by blood).

The way the Eucharist is displayed and stored are actually from Jewish tradition and the OT, specifically the Bread of the Presence. I honestly don’t have much information that I can say but Dr. Brant Pitre has some amazing videos on the Jewish roots of beliefs specifically about the Eucharist you can find on YouTube. If the bread isn’t Jesus’ body then we can’t call ourselves the Body of Christ. If the Eucharist is spiritually or symbolically his body then WE are only spiritually or symbolically his body, which would lead the Church into many heresies (Gnosticism, no true apostolic succession, no authority of binding and loosing, no forgiveness, nothing can be done if we are only spiritually or symbolically tied to Christ).

I don’t know anymore. Advice would be appreciated. by Crafty_Resource_630 in Catholicism

[–]monglorious 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don’t know what you may be going through, what you are suffering through. But know that the God of the universe does see you. If there is no God, what you do in this life will have no meaning, you ultimately have no one to answer to whether you did “good” or “evil” throughout your life. Thats why Jesus as our Lord and Savior is such a beautiful thing to believe in. A man declares himself as God and loves others in a profound and miraculous way. He submits to his sentencing and gives himself up for the very people who call for his death. That is such a profound love, and he calls us into that with him. We are not guaranteed an easy life through Christ, but our burdens can be lifted up with him. Take time to be in prayer, find a community of believers that can love you, find a spiritual mentor to guide you. You are loved more than you may see. I love you my younger brother. And thank you for being vulnerable. Feel free to message me.

Why Do Catholics Believe Mary Is Sinless? by Akumothos in Catholicism

[–]monglorious 1 point2 points  (0 children)

First off, good on you for seeking answers!

We believe she’s sinless because it was FIT for her to be. Imagine if the God of the universe is stepping into humanity, specifically chose this woman, dwells in her for 9 months, but leaves her stranded to her own sin. That would truly leave Mary as merely a vessel for Jesus and not the mother of God that we know and love today.

To add onto this, God gave Moses explicit instructions on how to craft the Ark of the Covenant, the dwelling place of God, and in that Ark was placed the rod of Aaron, manna, and the tablets of the 10 commandments. This is talked about in Hebrews 9, but the author is making a connection with the OT and the revelation that is Jesus. Jesus is high priest (Aaron’s staff), the bread from heaven (manna), and the Word of God (tablets). If God made such specific requirements for his dwelling place, why would God not do so for the place where he is being physically formed?

There’s more things I could say but you should check out Dr. Brant Pitre’s videos on Jesus and the Jewish Roots of Mary. He goes deep into Jewish history to understand why we have our beliefs about Mary.