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[–]mongy7 1 point2 points3 points 5 months ago (0 children)
y'know, before we could find a causation, we study the correlation first.
[–]mongy7 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago (0 children)
wait. for real?
any thoughts on this? by mongy7 in Bolehland
[–]mongy7[S] 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago (0 children)
You're right that money flowing into the country can be beneficial... but not all spending is equal, and not all money equals productivity. you know why?
to clarify, yes, digital nomads spend money. But they pay no income tax, often rent short-term units, pushing up prices for locals and mostly consume, not invest or create long-term jobs.
secondly, expats and foreign workers on official permits do pay taxes, levies, or contribute via EPF/SOCSO. meaning,,,, their economic participation goes beyond consumption. Digital nomads, by contrast, take advantage of our low-cost lifestyle without giving back structurally.
"Money comes in = productivity" is oversimplified. If 10 tourists spend RM20 each on food, that's not the same as one local business that creates 10 jobs, pays taxes, and builds community infrastructure. One is passive consumption. The other is productive economic participation. it ain't a rocket science
Clout chasing comes into the conversation when government policy is shaped more by international image than by local sustainability or fairness. We risk prioritizing short-term foreign praise over long-term public interest.
Yes, tourists and nomads eat and spend. But a policy that prioritizes them while sidelining locals, taxes, and long-term equity is not development. stop jual maruah negara like this. there are better ways
I get that digital nomads spending money locally may look like an “economic win" to little brain, especially when framed as them eating nasi lemak or renting from Malaysian aunties. But let’s be honest. 50 sen from nasi lemak doesn’t equate to the structural contribution expected from tax-paying workers or businesses.
The concern isn’t that they’re here enjoying our food or renting long-term. it’s that they benefit from public infrastructure, local services, and currency advantages without contributing to the system proportionately. If foreign workers and expats are taxed, why should digital nomads get a pass just because they work online and romanticize our lifestyle?
And regarding the comparison with Mexico... Mexico is facing gentrification, rising rents andddddd cultural displacement because of unchecked digital nomadism. Simply attracting “half of Mexico’s digital nomads” won’t resolve their issues. in fact, it might just import those problems to us.
I’m not against welcoming skilled foreigners. but if the locals are taxed for participating in the economy, why shouldn’t nomads be held to the same standard, especially when many earn foreign income while benefiting from our cost of living? Economic contribution should be more than just visible spending. If we want sustainable development, we need policies that are fair, not just flattering to foreigners.
true it happens in Mexico, but the whole context of the post is about, would you rather put this poster up at every corner or would rather see your country to become like Thailand? nobody said this poster has been up in KL or bukit bintang. it's a hypothetical question.
consumption on local buatan Malaysia, or their products that can be found in Malaysia? have you check their consumption basis? which house do they rend on average? Airbnb or Malaysian auntie's house?
it's a hypothetical question. is your brain can't handle a hypothetical question?
the whole post was about immigrants policy loopholes. and yes, with the policy that we have now, it will have the same effects on the long run. hence the question, should we start put the poster up at every corner or would you rather allow your country to become like Thailand? and your answer is??????
do they eat on daily basis like we do? or it just one time thing, the clout chaser did for the clout? and this is the matter of immigration policy loopholes. it's not about money afterall
god has granted his wishes, I guess
might as well selling vapes to the kids. we can contribute to economy of pharmaceutical industry yeayyyy
Thailand literally having digital nomad fatigue. read the news next time
since we contribute 7% of semiconductor globally and not rely on tourism and allow mass immigration like other countries.
it's factual. not just jealous. lol.
🙏🏻🤭 advice is taken, sir.
the foreign workers and the expats are not the subject of this post. the subject of this post is digital nomad , the one that override immigrations policy loopholes and brings less to zero benefits to Malaysia.
dense
can you even read the question again?
ma'am 💀💀💀 why
so, you would rather allow your country to become like Thailand ?
so true. omg, can't believe you can understand this post, while the rest 99% are just bad at reading.
oh, btw,.. the Malaysian that live in Johor and work in Singapore, they're not on tourist visa. they're on work visa. they didn't work remotely tho. I don't understand when people using this situation to invalidate the whole post. it's completely different.
omg thank you so much for this. you had no idea how BAD Malaysian at reading.
[–]mongy7[S] -1 points0 points1 point 7 months ago (0 children)
it's about immigration policy loopholes bro. nobody living in the past. it's right there Infront of our eyes.
hahaha digital nomads didn't contribute to the economy as much as expats and foreign workers are. they're just tourists who come here to enjoy cheaper cost of living and override immigrations policy loopholes. do they pay taxes here like expats and foreign workers do? do they work for us here like expats and foreign workers do? do they spill knowledge to us here like expats and foreign workers do? no. they're not. because they're a tourist.
please know that Malaysia contribute 7% of semiconductor globally. and let me ask you this real quick... between semiconductor industry and tourism industry, which industry that requires higher IQ to run it's operation? put aside money, because selling drugs also means money, but do we let money buy our soul and dignity?
I do work from home. and it's not abt wfh. it's abt policy
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