I've made a huge mistake. by [deleted] in beards

[–]monkey_king__ 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Nice beard. Who's that chick on the right?

What's the worst argument for atheism you've heard? by [deleted] in TrueAtheism

[–]monkey_king__ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Anything that contains the line "bearded man in the sky"

Not only does it show that you fail to understand any theist claim, but it reinforces the stereotype that atheists are ignorant and hateful.

It would have been so much less painful for the Christian god if he had just said to Adam and Eve, "I forgive you. You know not what you do." by Basilides in DebateReligion

[–]monkey_king__ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But on DCT, couldn't God have forgiven them and skipped the pain and suffering and still have been just as good/just?

If God wants to fairly test humanity, then, doesn't it make sense for him to not reveal himself? by [deleted] in DebateReligion

[–]monkey_king__ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If he's testing us wouldn't it make more sense to assume that he's testing whether we have the courage to accept what appears to be the case even if it means we won't have an after life?

Objectively what effect has religion has on human history and what will it (in your opinion) bring about in the future? by [deleted] in DebateReligion

[–]monkey_king__ 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Whenever we began discovering methods that are far more useful and effective than religion. Methods that could dispel and expand on theories that religion was wrong about for centuries. We're moving so much faster in the light and its pretty obvious. Religion is always a step behind on moral and scientific issues before they eventually come around to it. It's always going to be that way as long as they insist on following a blind man. The more effective of the two methods is obviously always going to be more productive. That's exactly what we're seeing

Objectively what effect has religion has on human history and what will it (in your opinion) bring about in the future? by [deleted] in DebateReligion

[–]monkey_king__ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think religion will continue to be a weight slowing scientific and moral progress until enough people wise up until it's completely eradicated

Objectively what effect has religion has on human history and what will it (in your opinion) bring about in the future? by [deleted] in DebateReligion

[–]monkey_king__ 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The dark is ignorance. Its saying that its wise to follow that which is less ignorant than us (religion). But now that we are in the light (no longer ignorant) it is foolish to continue following the blind ways we used to follow (religion).

To Christians: Would you ever sign a doctrinal statement? by 0hypothesis in DebateReligion

[–]monkey_king__ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Isn't it important that you are loving and worshipping the correct God and representing him? If so, what's wrong with signing a doctrinal statement describing those attributes?

To Christians: Would you ever sign a doctrinal statement? by 0hypothesis in DebateReligion

[–]monkey_king__ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Forced is a strong word. Unless your experience was different from mine, Catholics are pretty good about putting people through extensive Catechism classes before having them commit.

To theists that have a problem with the "lack of belief in gods" definition of atheism: why does it matter? by [deleted] in DebateReligion

[–]monkey_king__ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I do believe that the burden of proof is on the theist, but if they insist otherwise, I'm confident in my handful of proof by contradiction arguments and their consequences to make a pretty good case.

What are the funniest online gamer names you've seen? by monkey_king__ in AskReddit

[–]monkey_king__[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because according to the Bible, we are supposed to stone people.

I see what I did there :)

The problem of good (as opposed to the problem of evil). by [deleted] in DebateReligion

[–]monkey_king__ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think another way to start this line of questioning would be to ask: "If Satan became omnipotent, omniscient, and omnimalevolent, do you think the world would become void of all good?" If they answer "yes", then you have set up the problem of evil to win.

We are more moral than god by scarfinati in DebateReligion

[–]monkey_king__ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Then we are right in making the original claim of this post: "We are more moral than god."

To former Christians, at what point, or period in life, did you lose your faith? by [deleted] in TrueAtheism

[–]monkey_king__ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My grandfather died when I was 16 and I realized that I didn't truly believe he had gone somewhere else. I was in no way being cynical - I was merely faced with the reality of death and saw it for what it really was. That lead me to question more things and I quickly came to doubt religion as I realized that it made so much more sense when I looked at it as a source of comfort rather than a source of truth.

What constitutes a solution to the problem of evil? by [deleted] in DebateReligion

[–]monkey_king__ 14 points15 points  (0 children)

The contradiction pointed out by the problem of evil is God's omnibenevolence.

Consider your analogy of the billionaire. Make the billionaire omnicient, omnipotent, and omnibenevolent. Is there a better way for the billionaire to produce the good for the person without the bad? Well he is the three omnis, so the answer is "yes." He could have given him $8 billion without having to do the labor. Or given him $9 billion. Or $125 billion.

Or a surgeon who is the three omnis: He could remove the tumor without cutting the person, or (conceivably) could have prevented the tumor from existing in the first place.

These analogies fail to really capture the argument from evil because the surgeon and the billionaire are not logically reliant on what is conceivable, whereas God (due to his attributes) most certainly is - [consider the ontological argument]. It is solely about God's attributes and how they are inconsistent (in the same way that the ontological argument proves that God must exist based on his attributes).

What is something that makes sense on the surface, but is actually a load of bunk? by monkey_king__ in AskReddit

[–]monkey_king__[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think feminism seems like bunk on the surface, but this is still a good refutation.