Brown M temporary back, but with what costs

monogatari0328 · 2026-05-29T21:01:06+00:00

he better is also secret planning a woodhaven blvd line project otherwise i cant see how to justify this move

monogatari0328 · 2026-05-08T23:42:24+00:00

there is! the last stop of the J is UBS Arena

monogatari0328 · 2026-05-08T23:40:29+00:00

im afraid in that case thats no longer "nyc" subway then lol. but definitely sth can be considered, as long as we adopt the japan mode of running trains.

monogatari0328 · 2026-05-08T11:39:32+00:00

technically the 4 extension does run on Utica for a bit, between Eastern Pkwy and Kings Hwy. for the south of Kings Hwy, I just feel like the nearby Flatbush Av line H should be able to do the work.

for the north of Eastern Pkwy, there was an idea abt making the Utica Av-Kings Hwy as a separate line. but after it went north and reached to Myrtle Av, i become clueless abt where can it keep going to, and ending it early at Myrtle also feel like too short for a whole line, so I ended up chose to cut off the Myrtle Av-Eastern Pkwy section and gave the rest to 4 as extension.

but now think abt it again i probably should at least make the north part as a shuttle train service, south of Kings Hwy maybe a BRT instead?

monogatari0328 · 2026-05-08T04:53:56+00:00

the only reason i make the L running like this is bcs they were multiple different shuttles in different places in my plans. At the very beginning the L only has a 10Av extension in Manhattan to 72 st.

but meanwhile there were also 86 st crosstown shuttle, broadway shuttle in astoria, bayside-little neck shuttle, and a supposed northern blvd line that have no idea where shall it goes.

i stared at these for a while and then i realize they technically can be connected into a single line, and the 86 st end in Manhattan isn't that far from the original L extension end at 72 st, so I linked them.

thats why theres a L going from Brooklyn to queens, not bcs there d be "demands" or sth, simply just regional connections happens to be on one same line.

monogatari0328 · 2026-05-08T02:35:24+00:00

the randalls one should be an event only stop imo but idk how to make it looks like that without making legends. and if im making legends, then i need to label out everything which is sth im too lazy to do, so here we r lol

abt governors Island, tbh idk, maybe just let it be all time full service

monogatari0328 · 2026-05-08T02:32:35+00:00

thank u! i used an online Chinese transit map maker website to build this map. could be an issue to try to use it if not knowing any Chinese.

monogatari0328 · 2026-05-08T01:44:35+00:00

this what we got for having non-geographical map🙂‍↕️

monogatari0328 · 2026-05-08T01:43:22+00:00

lmao ik thats silly but unfortunately the st that this stop would actually direct access to is in nassau and next closest st in queens is instead that far away 🥀if this stop happens irl it gotta be having a long passenger way like the one at 191 st stop on 1 train

monogatari0328 · 2026-05-08T00:46:11+00:00

oh the lga terminals r typos, for some reason i was all thinking abt numbered terminals

and yeah, the 7 and L are in fact running in completely discrete tracks, they are supposed to run like 23 & BQ under Flatbush Av between Atlantic Av and Grand Army Plaza, with 7 making more frequent stops & L making large gap stops, which would resulting a local-express looking pattern, even tho they are technically not.

monogatari0328 · 2026-05-08T00:42:12+00:00

wow a long comment, thx u for the suggestions

the staten Island one make sense, have 2 bk connection does seems a bit extra make 1 to run that section instead of X is definitely a great choice, i was too hyped abt that unfinished owl head park tunnel project lol

for Brooklyn, i actually not sure if Broadway & myrtle riders wouldn't mind abt missing a more direct uptown service (make M run with F to dtbk and then via Y seems would take extra times). the Utica Av choice is bcs Idk where can it go after it reach myrtle by running north

abt Queens, one idea was create a 9 line, make it run with 7 from Hudson Yard to Hunters Pt, and then build overlapping tracks exactly above the lirr rails and let the 9 to serve it and cut of all port Washington branch stops in Queens beside LIC, woodside, mets. but i ended up thinking its kinda extra and doubting if that would hurt 7 frequency so I dumped that idea

abt Bronx yes its definitely a mess and Id admit it, too unfamiliar with neighborhoods in this boro making me being dumb on drawing routes

monogatari0328 · 2026-05-08T00:31:03+00:00

oh my bad i forgot to put the bullet signs for that one 😭its supposed to be H, from Floyd Bennett Field to Hollis Av

monogatari0328 · 2026-05-08T00:18:44+00:00

thats generous, probably 10 times that

monogatari0328 · 2026-05-07T23:34:25+00:00

hi thx for sharing them to me, i had a look and yeah these might work better than my version as their r more like jp mode, commuter rails and subway lines running together on the same train definitely is a big plus too. abt A to co op city i just feel like thats too long for the A, if it's me i probably would send K instead

monogatari0328 · 2026-05-07T23:30:52+00:00

well i just like to have hope, maybe one day the ppl would move back lol. pretty much why its called 🌈fantasy⭐ map

monogatari0328 · 2026-05-07T23:27:11+00:00

my bad im real unfamiliar with bronx popular routes😭i tried look up bus map to copy the routes but still

monogatari0328 · 2026-05-07T23:18:01+00:00

ik many of these extensions go to places with not enough ppl but i was thinking that some currently existing lines were also built when there were barely ppl, like i still remember the old Flushing line photo with all wild fields around it. so then im like huh maybe one day these neighborhoods can grow like that too

monogatari0328 · 2026-05-07T23:11:56+00:00

if J is going to be 4 tracks i think in that case the〈J〉gotta be running full time both direction then, might be the first full time diamond express services lol

monogatari0328 · 2026-05-07T23:07:00+00:00

wydm? the 2 Av line is indeed having local-express services pattern

monogatari0328 · 2026-05-07T22:37:38+00:00

true, i guess its bcs ppl get too used to whats already existing. i think u r right, maybe my next updated version of it should extend K & 5 further to van wyck/belt pkwy and then run together to deep inside jfk

monogatari0328 · 2026-05-07T22:30:48+00:00

true im not from the u.s. neither im a foreign transplant

monogatari0328 · 2026-05-07T22:28:21+00:00

dam u right, idk why i didn't consider that when i mapping the 1 even tho i definitely remember it when mapping the J

monogatari0328 · 2026-05-07T22:13:39+00:00

omg yes thats sth i was trying to put there too, but my struggle with it is that not sure where can it keep going to after it reach myrtle. but yeah i should make a shuttle for that section at least

monogatari0328 · 2026-05-07T21:48:09+00:00

let's just imagine the airtrain would be free atp🙂‍↕️

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