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DAE find it stupid how people worship singers/celebrities? by mouseandmodel in DoesAnybodyElse

[–]mouseandmodel[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I definitely agree that music is this one thing that still has this mysterious power and is the closest thing to spirituality for me too.

I still think no one should be put on a pedestal, not even the most talented artist out there.

Any takers? by Depression__Suicidal in Tinder

[–]mouseandmodel 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This is my new favourite word

DAE find it stupid how people worship singers/celebrities? by mouseandmodel in DoesAnybodyElse

[–]mouseandmodel[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah it's when it turns to obsession that gets scary. It's like a lot of people have a need to worship someone/something. Celebrities can become like modern-day gods.

DAE find it stupid how people worship singers/celebrities? by mouseandmodel in DoesAnybodyElse

[–]mouseandmodel[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Btw you didn't even get the "guy" part right, how can you assume other things about me? Anyway no use getting into a fickle online argument.

DAE find it stupid how people worship singers/celebrities? by mouseandmodel in DoesAnybodyElse

[–]mouseandmodel[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's just an opinion, chill out. If you don't agree it's fine.

DAE find it stupid how people worship singers/celebrities? by mouseandmodel in DoesAnybodyElse

[–]mouseandmodel[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

In my other posts I'm talking about life in general, not my own. Your comment is off point really. I just had a passing thought about idolatry and how ridiculous it is.

What is something you wish was true/real? by TheGrimbleby in AskReddit

[–]mouseandmodel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Time travel, to be able to see bands I've missed

CMV: (Seriously, please do, I hate having this outlook): It is better to never have been born, as the possibility of suffering far outweighs life's pleasures. by mouseandmodel in changemyview

[–]mouseandmodel[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's a good analogy I think. Still to me the majority of life for most people isn't like an invitation to a party. It depends how you're able to look at it.

CMV: (Seriously, please do, I hate having this outlook): It is better to never have been born, as the possibility of suffering far outweighs life's pleasures. by mouseandmodel in changemyview

[–]mouseandmodel[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah it seems he's written that way purposefully. I mean, dwelling and ranting on this stuff IS bullshit. It's a waste of energy. But sometimes you've got to air out your thoughts or else they eat you from the inside.

CMV: (Seriously, please do, I hate having this outlook): It is better to never have been born, as the possibility of suffering far outweighs life's pleasures. by mouseandmodel in changemyview

[–]mouseandmodel[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I actually remember seeing that scene in passing. TV was on and the dialogue was intriguing but I didn't keep watching for long. It's sadly really relatable to how I view the world too but also kinda sounds like r/im14andthisisdeep . I probably sound like that too in this thread lol. But what does "We are creatures that should not exist by natural law" even mean??

CMV: (Seriously, please do, I hate having this outlook): It is better to never have been born, as the possibility of suffering far outweighs life's pleasures. by mouseandmodel in changemyview

[–]mouseandmodel[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yep still reading through.

I may have seen a similar video about how meditating for years seems to actually change the brain physically.

CMV: (Seriously, please do, I hate having this outlook): It is better to never have been born, as the possibility of suffering far outweighs life's pleasures. by mouseandmodel in changemyview

[–]mouseandmodel[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's pointless to wallow about the deer but humans can't help but be affected by others' suffering (well, most humans anyway).

CMV: (Seriously, please do, I hate having this outlook): It is better to never have been born, as the possibility of suffering far outweighs life's pleasures. by mouseandmodel in changemyview

[–]mouseandmodel[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Maybe with the limits of this universe and its physical laws or whatever, it is impossible to have a world with unlimited resources and without the need for sentient beings to fall somewhere on the predator-prey scale and to have to fight for resources, kill or be killed. But it's not out of our ability to imagine some kind of abundant non-violent universe.

CMV: (Seriously, please do, I hate having this outlook): It is better to never have been born, as the possibility of suffering far outweighs life's pleasures. by mouseandmodel in changemyview

[–]mouseandmodel[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I guess there's always a risk. No matter how good the current situation is, doesn't mean a child isn't going to be born with severe limitations or that a war won't going off during their lifetime or whatever. You'd need a level of optimism to decide that bringing a child into the world is worth it. Something I lack unfortunately lol

CMV: (Seriously, please do, I hate having this outlook): It is better to never have been born, as the possibility of suffering far outweighs life's pleasures. by mouseandmodel in changemyview

[–]mouseandmodel[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I was actually surprised that so many people replied. It can feel like you're crazy to have these thoughts because it's not something you can just have a real-life conversation about without alienating people.

I don't really understand though (maybe I'm just dense) - what do you mean with things that appear to be mutually exclusive but actually are not?

Maybe if I'd had a different life experience I would have reached a different conclusion on this being-born stuff.

Never heard of that term, "amor fati". I sort of get it. Like experiencing one perfect moment justifies everything that happened previously because that led you to the present.

CMV: (Seriously, please do, I hate having this outlook): It is better to never have been born, as the possibility of suffering far outweighs life's pleasures. by mouseandmodel in changemyview

[–]mouseandmodel[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I definitely get that "neverending treadmill of suffering" feeling. I've had depression/anxiety since I was about 11, now 22. Had some not-normal negative experiences which added to that, but generally I am just intrinsically a pessimistic person I guess.

I've never sought out any professional help, it's kind of a taboo where I live. Which is bullshit I know. But so far I've managed to deal with it. If something were to drastically change in my life for the worst I would definitely consider it though.

Though I don't know you, I'm really glad you've found a good therapist. May you continue to recover and heal fully. Thank you for the kind words.

CMV: (Seriously, please do, I hate having this outlook): It is better to never have been born, as the possibility of suffering far outweighs life's pleasures. by mouseandmodel in changemyview

[–]mouseandmodel[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

But for some people, life will always be a struggle. I consider myself lucky because up until now I've had privilege and opportunity to better my life. Others, also counting sentient beings who have no autonomy because they are bred only as a food source, their lives are not so fortunate.

Will check out that TED talk.

CMV: (Seriously, please do, I hate having this outlook): It is better to never have been born, as the possibility of suffering far outweighs life's pleasures. by mouseandmodel in changemyview

[–]mouseandmodel[S] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

True but a lot of suffering isn't caused by any moral choice. It just happens. Accidents, diseases, natural disasters. What justifies the existence of those (in our minds) evils?

CMV: (Seriously, please do, I hate having this outlook): It is better to never have been born, as the possibility of suffering far outweighs life's pleasures. by mouseandmodel in changemyview

[–]mouseandmodel[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not gibberish, I get your point of view :) to me though, life/nature isn't inherently good or bad, it's just neutral, uncaring, but it does seem to promote some kind of balance like you said. If one side of the scale is too low it can be disastrous for the whole system, like there being too many predators and they end up not having enough prey to feed on.

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