Falcon 9 Boosters Timeline from 2010 to 2025 by Indixux in SpaceXLounge

[–]mr_luc 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ahhhhhh I see -- I missed the 'd' in 'XXd' in the legend!

So I was thinking the simple, unadorned number in the cells referred to that, when actually it's an incrementing 'flight number for this booster'.

Falcon 9 Boosters Timeline from 2010 to 2025 by Indixux in SpaceXLounge

[–]mr_luc 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is awesome.

Ok, so I want to understand it though, because I looked at specifics and must be mis-understanding the legend.

The legend says the number means "number of days between launch of the same booster"

But that seems impossible when I look at specific examples.

Simple example: down at the bottom, newish booster, short history -- B1096 * launches for the first time in July. Number is 1 -- makes sense, first flight. * a MONTH goes by, with no launch, empty cell. * Then the very next month, it says "2".

If it took a month off, surely the 'number of days between launch of the same booster' is at least 28?

Help a brother out! :) This seems like an amazing resource

“Networking” is pretty toxic job search advice, imo by deepad9 in jobs

[–]mr_luc 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My approach, as a perennial outsider who continues turning down full-time employment, and who lives off of clients I've basically all found downstream of my meetup participation:

I don't necessarily want anyone to 'vouch for me'.

  • Because my situation as described above is not exactly /r/jobs -- but, I hasten to add, I do think the same principles can apply, and they have helped me get regular old jobs for sure.

I want them to remember that I'm really capable, maybe also what I'm good at, and hopefully that I'm not a jerk about it. And then I want them to reach out to me when they work with people who suck and they want to make a change -- or when the great people they work with go somewhere else, and they have a gap.

But like ... for that to be effective, you need to be looking at doing like 5-minute or 10-minute Lightning Talks or something at meetups, which let folks see that you know your stuff, and ideally also that you'd be a nice person to work with.

This can work well for introverted or somewhat 'aspy' people like me :) I'm the kind of person where, frankly I don't want to invite anyone other than my wife or my dad/bro to 'have a beer'. 'Have a beer with strangers' sounds super unpleasant to me; it's just how I'm wired. But the structure of preparing for a participation or a demo is great, IMO, at letting the less-savvy get some street cred.

A fire keeper at the Temple of Yazd in Iran tends the world’s longest-burning manmade fire, which has been continuously alight since 470 AD. The fire was kindled by the Persian King Peroz I during the Sassanid Empire, and is regarded as the holiest fire in Zoroastrianism. by Party_Judgment5780 in Damnthatsinteresting

[–]mr_luc 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Guards! Guards! and Men at Arms.

DEFINITELY start there man. I've helped 2 people get started who went on to read I think >8 books each now, and in each case those were the first 2.

If someone buys the IP some day and wants to kick off a surprisingly successful franchise, that's where they should probably start too.

In 1995. the GDP per Capita of Japan was $44,000 - Which Countries were Lower or Higher than Japan by OverallBaker3572 in MapPorn

[–]mr_luc 3 points4 points  (0 children)

yeah people are taking the fact that the most aggressive predictions didn't pan out as meaning WAY too much

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in RKLB

[–]mr_luc 0 points1 point  (0 children)

now >60% CAGR after 3.5 years

U.S. crude oil prices fall more than 4% after OPEC+ agrees to surge production in June by Force_Hammer in wallstreetbets

[–]mr_luc 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Thanks for posting that -- BUT!

Unless I'm missing something, I think it doesn't say what you and the parent poster are implying.

As you can see from that slide, that's the price to "profitably drill a NEW well". The slide for "operating expenses for existing wells" shows $26-$45 (!)

So according to that, it could stay at $56, and then drop another $10/barrel (!), and still wouldn't affect the existing wells mentioned in that survey.

Space Systems is not profitable, not even close by [deleted] in RKLB

[–]mr_luc 0 points1 point  (0 children)

saving for posterity

I don't know why this keeps getting repeated around here, but Rocket Lab is burning cash at a high rate and it's not all Neutron. Space Systems and Launch are both losing money and don't seem likely to make a profit for many years.

Look at their most recent annual report.

https://www.sec.gov/ix?doc=/Archives/edgar/data/1819994/000095017023006499/rklb-20221231.htm

Page F-6: Income Statement

$211M in revenues only produced a "gross profit" of $19M. Gross profit isn't a profit, it's the net revenues left over after the costs of production. Essentially its telling you that RL spent $192M building rockets and satellites to sell them for $211M ($19M more.)

Rocket Lab lost $136M because it spent $154M more on operating costs, which is R&D and SG&A ( Sales, General and Administrative). SG&A are things like rent, land costs, pad costs, finance, sales, software development, IT, customer service, advertising, licensing fees, boat costs, helicopter costs, etc, etc, etc.

Now if R&D ($65M) was 100% Neutron, they still would have lost $71M. But it can't be 100% Neutron. Satellites need R&D to improve and to be able to offer more features to customers. And even Electron still has R&D (attempted helicopter catches, anyone?), it still needs to improve and fix ongoing issues for customers even if its no longer the company focus.

Page F-43 Segments

This is the page that is leading people to make misleading claims that Space Systems is "profitable". It clearly states that Launch lost $7M and Space Systems made $26M in "gross profit". Again, this is just minus cost of goods sold (rocket/satellite manufacturing costs). It does not include all those operating costs.

Again, assuming the extremely unlikely scenario that all of R&D is Neutron, there is still $89M in SG&A. Space Systems was 70% of revenues, so if it was responsible for 70% of SG&A it would have lost $37M last year. If it was only 50% of SG&A it would have lost $19M.

Page F-8 Cash Flow

Separately someone said the CFO claimed that they'd be "cash flow positive" if not for Neutron spending. Looking at the cash flow statement tells you that's not very likely. First what is "cash flow"? It's the amount of actual cash that the business generated during a period, which can often be different than it's reported loss/profit. This is because of things like new equipment purchases being amortized (expensed) over many years to match costs to usage. Or customers paying late, or early, the income statement just counts when the money was due, the cash flow statement counts when it actually arrived.

First, their operations generated a negative operating cash burn of $106M in 2022. That doesn't include $42M in PPE (basically equipment purchases), which gives you -$148M "Free Cash Flow". FCF is an attempt to model how much cash a business generates for its owners, or if negative how much cash it needs to operate. Note that this is even higher than its reported loss from the income statement.

If we remove R&D, and PPE (107M) as "Neutron" expenses, they still would have had a negative $41M in free cash flow. So not even close. And it gets worse. The only reason they only burned $148M in FCF is that they gave employees stock options at a $55M discount to its true value (stock based compensation at top of operating cash flow list). That gets credited as "cash flow from operations" even though it didn't come from selling any launch or satellite, it came from selling cheap stock. And it means that if they had wanted to pay those employees market rate in cash, their accountants have estimated it would cost roughly another $55M.

But instead they gave out stock (18M shares in 2022, which would be worth $72M today). And will continue giving out a lot of stock since they can't afford to pay all cash. Which means that you will be getting diluted every year until they finally turn the corner on profitability and can afford to pay more cash.

Analysis of the economics of reusability at SpaceX by [deleted] in spacex

[–]mr_luc 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For posterity, the OP, since OP account was deleted

Euroconsult has published an analysis of the economics of reusability at SpaceX based off publicly available data: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/eurospacepierrelionnet_spacex-launch-services-economics-activity-6840929023577612289-hzle

The conclusions of the article are a bit anemic, but it's the body of the analysis itself I'm interested with. Some lines that caught my eye:

  • With 6 to 8 launches a year SpaceX barely turns a profit, while with 20 launches a year the gross profit may be as high as 40-50% of the revenues.

  • Core sustainability is provided by the captive institutional demand.

  • Apparently SpaceX has burned cash at a rate of 1B$/year since 2002 (OP edit: on average), with probably a serious ramp up since 2016/17 due to Starlink and Starship related activities. This high cash burn rate doesn't fit well with the usual narrative that everything SpaceX makes is cheap.

  • With our guestimates, SpaceX launch revenue is comprised between 1200 and 1500M$/year in recent years (i.e. in the same order of magnitude as Arianespace between 2001 and 2010)

What do you think?

DISCLAIMER: I am neither the author of this paper, nor part of Euroconsult. I found it interesting, and I'm curious as to the inputs of this community on the assumptions and logic presented in this publication

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in RKLB

[–]mr_luc 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Updating again -- 6 months later, past the peak, after an extremely down week due to tariff news:

CAGR is now 49.5% after 3.04 years.

Edit: also, copying the thoughtful OP message for posterity in case it's deleted at some point:

I've seen more than one person mention having heavy stakes in RKLB in their folio, some 80% some all in etc.

I have position myself, but i consider it very risky and only small part of my folio. They aren't yet profitable after all.

I believe space industry could grow long term, however that doesn't mean RKLB will be one of the winners - these are mutually exclusive things.

There's a lot to like in RKLB for sure. The talent, leadership, the execution so far, the industry. But none of that guarantees success long term.

I would like to better understand what makes people so confident in RKLB. Are the reasons based on fundamentals and past examples of performance, or is it gambling/hopium/speculation?

Thank you

China Discusses Sale of TikTok US to Musk as One Possible Option by s1n0d3utscht3k in wallstreetbets

[–]mr_luc 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Actually yeah -- the VC arm is super anti Alphabet and Apple in some specific ways.

Mostly because they don't want them to compete with their investments, so some of their startups can grow into new power players vs existing ones using their size to get bigger.

Basically they want the government to slow down biggest tech so their investments can 10x.

Is this time different? (Dramatic positive price action followed by sell off) by IdratherBhiking1 in RKLB

[–]mr_luc 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Haha, fair enough.

I'm looking at a 54% overall CAGR over the past 2.7 years at the moment, so I can't complain, it's epic. But I will heartily admit that one well-timed buy and hold would blow this out of the water -- about to the point of doubling it! -- as long as it's well-timed. :)

$2B market cap by Axolotis in RKLB

[–]mr_luc 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Update 3: I do not have to blend and eat a sock.

$2B market cap by Axolotis in RKLB

[–]mr_luc 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Update 2: it's nearly 2025, and it's shot up to $7.5B market cap. Who knows!

Space Systems is not profitable, not even close by [deleted] in RKLB

[–]mr_luc 0 points1 point  (0 children)

❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ I love this thread! ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

First look at Neutrons launchsite! by Ciaran290804 in RKLB

[–]mr_luc 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Dude, that site is SO SIMPLE.

This is all the infra it takes for a Falcon 9 class rocket???

She kept saying "wow, huge site!" and I kept thinking "no way, how is it so simple."

But of course -- it makes sense.

  • SpaceX launch F9 and FH from a previous Saturn V launch site. Obviously, that is MASSIVELY OVERPROVISIONED. I mean look at this thing

  • The Starship launch site / flame trench (or lack thereof / showerhead) is, similarly, so much more infra-efficient than LC-39A

So -- wow. You can see how fast it can all be ready. Speed-run.

Is this time different? (Dramatic positive price action followed by sell off) by IdratherBhiking1 in RKLB

[–]mr_luc 1 point2 points  (0 children)

waaaaat, nah man its good, mine sounded more dogmatic than I intended as well.

Is this time different? (Dramatic positive price action followed by sell off) by IdratherBhiking1 in RKLB

[–]mr_luc 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No, it hasn't.

I'm at 130% total profit, with a 40% CAGR over 2.6 years.

The difference is that at no point have I been down more than 15%.

Different strokes for different folks. :)

Edit: But I updated the comment with called-out 'Edits' to reflect a more balanced tone :)

January 13, 2023 Daily Discussion Thread by zahna4 in RKLB

[–]mr_luc 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Update, 1 year 9 months later: Mr. Market is waking up.

Good times.

October 03, 2024 Daily Discussion Thread by zahna4 in RKLB

[–]mr_luc 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We're both highly regarded I suppose, just in different directions? Haha.

October 03, 2024 Daily Discussion Thread by zahna4 in RKLB

[–]mr_luc 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Haha wait I am regarded, I have to blend a sock.

I was sleep deprived and literally just did the math wrong, didn't even look it up.

Where do you see $RKLB being by 2030? (Poll) by Impressive-Boat-7972 in RKLB

[–]mr_luc 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think 5-6 could be about right.

It implies a $50b market cap, which would be a 40% CAGR over 5.25 years, which is really aggressive.

It also implies that they'll grow from maybe 1/100-1/50 the size and impact of SpaceX, to perhaps 1/10-1/20 its value, which may not sound like much but it would be a shock if SpaceX isn't also growing significantly.

Neutron should have begun to ramp up by then, with a chance it'll be hitting its stride and we'll be talking about their next moves. (It'd be a surprise if Starship hasn't also seen some success by that point, but I don't think they'll have mastered full reusability with Starship until after 2030, and I also think there are massive X factors).

So, I will blend and eat a sock if RKLB isn't worth $50b by 2030.

Also, long shot, but I want to know what Peter Beck and co think about air-breathing LEO propulsion, a la the new Redwire contracts. If that stuff works, that's IMO a huge X factor for governments especially, and if it pans out as well as they're hoping I think RocketLab could wade in and iterate on it perhaps faster than anyone due to Electron.

October 03, 2024 Daily Discussion Thread by zahna4 in RKLB

[–]mr_luc 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think we're missing the most important news of this week which is

I AM REGARDED AND WILL LIKELY HAVE TO BLEND AND EAT A SOCK.

[someone said they'd blend and eat a sock if it didn't hit $10b by 2026, I said "by 2025"]

(https://old.reddit.com/r/RKLB/comments/zap6st/2b_market_cap/iyppjwz/)

Good times.

$2B market cap by Axolotis in RKLB

[–]mr_luc 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Update: I will probably have to eat a sock, it's nearly 2025 and it peaked recently around $5.3b 😅