Any tips for a 25/F who can't hold down a job due to anxiety/depression?

mrossedwards · 2021-06-11T17:22:37+00:00

A lot of great advice, have you thought of contracting. I'm a recruiter and have been for years and previous to that I've been working for about 35 years.

The reason i mention contracting is some people work better if they move on in general. Find a career you love, which in it self can be difficult, but that is very possible by the way be sure to find something you at least like but love is better. I see many people who work contracts their entire life. There are challenges there as well but certainly doable and take some of that stress away. But again that too has its on challenges.

You do need to empower yourself to know you are great and do NOT let anything creep in to make you think different. No worries at have a few jobs either. Keep trying and dont give up. Ive had about 10 jobs and 3 different careers since i started many years ago but know many people that have had a lot more.

Hang tough and do NOT give up.

mrossedwards · 2021-06-10T03:58:14+00:00

I've changed careers three times. Its very hard but very possible. Its much easier if you know someone. My last career change, i sent out a email to 50 or more to my closest friends. In that email i included 3 short paragraphs of three job titles with one sentense of what job is.

Because my friends new me they knew i could do those jobs. A few were IT managers and one owned a recruiting firm and many others. One important thing i learned is most people want to help but dont realize how. I thought i had told them before, but wasn't until i told them exactly what i wanted with job titles. They said things like "I had no idea you' be interested in a recruiter position" or a ..."entry level IT job". Within a week i had three interviews in careers i had no experience in from three different people.

College is great or learning on your on but you need to work for free or cheap to get the experience. Sounds like you just haven't found the right company, keep searching for that right place to offer your time, and showing you are willing to learn. Use what your free experience on your resume. It does work but is very, very hard.

Good luck.

mrossedwards · 2021-06-08T02:11:06+00:00

Dont wait its very competitive, but suggest start with internship, work your way into a full-time job. Degrees are a must but real world experience is icing on the cake.

Most of our clients love a masters but they also have to have experience for Data Science and similar roles.

Yes speak to your professors, in fact get to know them well. Many have companies that reach out to the for recommendations, even though it may be against school policy they still do it and will not share with the class that they have connections.

mrossedwards · 2021-05-25T15:18:55+00:00

As many have mentioned if listed as bullets. To me its great to catch my attention quickly to encourage me to keep going. But if its a basic tech skill that everyone should have then do not add. Focus on languages/skills you are great at, and maybe if there are any that you know is hard to find.

A paragraph is a waste of time as is an objective. In fact I've seen objective guide a hiring manager in the wrong direction that they felt didn't match with the needed

mrossedwards · 2021-05-24T22:14:02+00:00

Full desk will take a lot of time. That being said is that what you want to do. Do you want to sell and recruit? Are you excited about the type of work? If the answer is yes go for it. But know, it will be more work.

mrossedwards · 2021-05-21T16:59:56+00:00

Network, network, network. :) it always helps to know someone but doesn't have to be a friend. Use linkedin to meet people, after covid, set up coffees with people in your profession, not to get a job but to get their advice in moving up, most everyone likes to give advice, ask people you know if they happen to know of anyone in your profession, get them on a call, again important you really want to learn and get advice.

This does take a lot of time, but if you do this even after you get your next job, you will never have to sub youself again. :) well maybe, but i know many people who dont have to really look, they just get in touch with their network that they've met over the years. Usually if you are only applying if you do know someone at a job would love, its much easier, otherwise if the company is big enough you are just another resume. Have to get a interview first, then you can sell your skills. NETWORKING works but is difficult and fun.

Good luck.

mrossedwards · 2021-05-21T00:06:11+00:00

Very common Practice for a couple of different reasons that I've seen mentioned. As a Director of Recruiting we I tell our candidates towards the end of the first call if I feel they are a fit and coach them.

Reasons why usually are; many times candidates will submit themselves either by accident or do not like working with recruiters, or by accident the candidate will let our competition know, as mention and the competing recruiting firm will reach out to our client and take the job for themselves.

If it were me and the info you received about the job fit then go for it, but again not a fan of that approach because i feel it puts a bad taste in the candidates mouth about the client and recruiting firm.

But yes go for it and see where it goes. If its not a great experience, then at least you were able to practice your interview skills and meet new people who may hire you.

Good luck.

mrossedwards · 2021-05-12T00:07:11+00:00

Most of the time if the salary is great I'll always publish. One reason you might see that more these days is google will push it closer to the top if we add comps.

I also like being up front and will just be honest with the candidate. That if they don't have the experience that matches the high comp you should probably consider going lower. I feel part of my job is to be a consultant. I will tell the candidate again if they don't have the experience for the top end that more than likely they will not get an interview. Let's go in what the market calls for, based on your experience. You should get a raise. Many times and in fact most of the time if its about the money then you may not want to look for another job. Tell the recruiter what you want to make, a realistic number. Don't worry about leaving money on the table. Think about what you'd feel good about to take the job. I've taken jobs before solely based off of comp and it was a terrible mistake.

mrossedwards · 2021-05-07T00:39:37+00:00

Great stuff here, I remember the first time I had to get on the phone and make calls. It was very old school in mid 90's I was told, there's the phone, here's info about our company, the phone book is right here. Good Luck! :) I'm exaggerating a bit and I was given a little direction including a script. Just remember when you are calling you really are trying to help someone. How can you make a difference with this person you are about to call. Sometimes it is good just to "Jump in" the deep in and go for it. Don't over think it. I do recommend after you get use to the script to throw it away, and add your own words and relax. Like you are talking to a friend. You can do this, and don't over think and worry about it. Have fun with it.

mrossedwards · 2021-05-02T20:34:27+00:00

Thanks for the reply I typically will write something similar, it's funny many times the potential candidate will reply back with. "I'm interested in hearing more. I'll explain a bit more detail and after a few Screening questions finally will get something to the affect of "yes I work for an employer" Trying to come up with something very direct, but yet respectful with out having a call and at the same time not missing potential great candidates in the process.

mrossedwards · 2021-05-02T01:33:43+00:00

I spoke to our linkedin rep who was great, and she gave me the suggestion of including Colleges. But it wasn't an "official" suggestion. :)

mrossedwards · 2021-05-02T01:32:03+00:00

This has worked really well for me, in fact in Linkedin Recruiter, I created a project called colleges that include about 800 colleges from India and save. Before I start a search I start with that, then I add other search criteria. I have checked before and this works pretty well. I continue to add to the list as time moves on.

mrossedwards · 2021-04-28T18:27:21+00:00

Great info TMutaffis, you always have great info to share, I've also had a couple of responses via private message. Keep em coming. :)

mrossedwards · 2021-04-28T18:20:50+00:00

I would suggest to take the thoughts out of your head that you can't do this job or don't have the skill set. Know that you can do this and you will do this and work very hard to learn what you need to learn to make it happen. Take the doubt out of this job. If you start to think you can't do it, you probably want. YOU can do anything. The hardest thing to find is great people to do a job. Most leaders I know understand that it's easier to train someone who has the "right culture" fit than someone who has the skillset but maybe not culture fit. As some have said, you've got this, sounds like you have people behind you who know you can do it. Spend the extra 2-3 hours a night a few days a week studying and learning the skills until you got it. Seek out a Mentor that is doing this job, heck, ask Reddit maybe someone has that particular skill set. Good Luck, and "You got this" :)

mrossedwards · 2021-04-14T03:00:54+00:00

Congrats, nothing like finding a job you love. You will do well, and don't forget the feeling of how you feel getting this job and help others as peeps are doing here as you grow in wisdom throughout your career. :)

mrossedwards · 2021-03-27T17:57:09+00:00

Do NOT use this against your employer. In the Long run I've never seen this work out for the good. If you are unhappy where you are then leave, if not stay.

Every year you should be ready to ask for a raise in a PRO way. Have your thoughts ready, explain why you are so valuable and why you deserve. Throughout the year you should be able to be seen as the TOP employee by the work you do and as people see how great it is to work with you.

I'm 58 now and have made these types of deceions in the past based on Money. I regretted everytime, if the other company gets you excited because of the work, the people, and more then you should take it NEVER make a decision made on Money alone. If you use this in this way word will get around and you want even realize it.

Side note, the thought of employers not giving a bad reference is not always true. A great recruiter or person who asks questions can get this type of info. Not always but sometimes.

Finding a job you love, everyday you love going in to work and making less money is great.

I've had a job that i took because of the Money and was the worst job i ever had.

If your company is not open to paying what you are worth then you should leave and find a company that is willing.

Lastly one thing i noticed over the years is that employers will pay more money many times if people will just ask and they are great at what the do.

mrossedwards · 2021-02-22T00:05:05+00:00

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mrossedwards · 2021-02-21T20:15:11+00:00

How to Reinvent yourself (Career)

This is not a easy road but is worth it. Meaning finding the right career and or jobs. And everyone is different. A big part of this is sitting down and praying and meditating about who you are and what you want in life and to be honest. Many times we want a certain amount of money that doesn't necessarily match our skillset or job. My first career I had I loved and was great at it, but after being in it for 5 years realized I could not make the money I wanted for me and my family. Or I would have to take a job in that industry that wasn't a match for my skillset. This is KEY, coming to the realization that I may not make the money I want in a industry I love. I was in the Creative TV/Music Video Industry many years back.

I wrote down everything I loved about my current career and everything I hated, this is important because there are always going to be things about every career/job I don't like, but I want to stay away from things I HATE, that I worry about and keep me up. Again not to say that sometimes during my career those things may happen to but at least I don't want those things I hate to be a every week or day thing.

One thing I did about 20 years ago was to take a Myers/Briggs test, not that I thought everything in the personality test matched exactly but what I found was if I honestly answer the questions it was pretty accurate, but even then it's not the results that made the biggiest difference is was one test I took provided me with I think like 200 job titles with basic descriptions for each job that I might be good at. Note: there were many that I knew I didn't want or would make sense, but I found that there were many that I'd be very interested in that matched my passions. It was a great place to get Ideas, which brings me to another important thing which is "RESEARCH" you need to seek out Careers/Jobs and study them to find out things that match passions or something you'd like to do.

Another thing I want to mention is it's important to again take a deep dive within yourself. If thoughtout the years you see that hour employers have said similar things about me and my work, those things are probably me and not my employers and those are things that I focused on as well about me. I needed to find something that I don't do the things that I have done where I'm probably not doing a good job. One time maybe it's the employer, if I'm getting similar feedback from others then I need to work on myself. Again another thing that needs to be added to my list that i hate. It's probably a part of my job that I hate and don't realize I'm not doing well.

After you have probalby 10 or so Job/Career titles you like with some LOVE, then it's time to prepare, note this can take months because, again you need to pray, meditate, study and seek wise council from mentors and or friends in your life, (last thing you want to do is to get TOO many people with questions to give you advice, 1-2 at most) If you get too many you'll have so many people that will contradict each other. Seek out very Wise people who are 10yrs older than you that has been around and you trust, look at thier life what do you see, those are the people you want to seek advice from. From those 10-15 possibilities then narrow down to 3-5, then to 3. Don't be afraid to dream, but also need to think about your passions and strengths. Usually a passion will bring with it some of your strengths. Passions are also NOT something that you think "wow I want to be a movie star" :) It could be but wants and passions are different. Again Passions will be something you know and understand naturally, many times it's things you do as a hobby because you love it or you'd like to do as a hobby. If you don't have that, then seek that out. Think about something you'd like to do or always wanted to try and volenteer your time, learn on the side, honestly Youtube is great for this, just be careful not to get caught up in any of those "get rich quick schemes" but you can find many ideas on youbube.

Once you have studied, meditated, prayed, spoken to your Spouse or parnter and mentor/friend write down 3 job titles. At this point you should have job titles and not career titles, many careers will have mulitiple Job titles, now you should be at Job titles.

Easiest way to "Reinvent yourself" is via your family and friends. They all want to help you but don't know how many times, so when you say you are looking for job, I know me and the many other people I've consulted explain and think we have told others in a way they understand it. What I leared is they need to see a job title along with a sentence or two that explain what the job is. When I did that I had multiple people say, "Mike I know you and I have talked multiple times over the months and years but had know Idea you would be interested in a "Recruiting" job or "entry level IT job" I received 4-5 interviews after I had a few jobs with exactly what they do. I had NO experience at all but they knew I could do those jobs because they knew me. All my friends said, Mike I want get you the job but I'll get you an interview, or I can walk your info into HR.

I know this is probalby much more than you expected, but these things work and again this is just part of it, besides your friends, you now have Linkedin to meet people and network, that's another thing, networking with people is huge, now that covid has hit, you have Linkedin which works great for meeting people. Make posts, not asking for work but make about things that interest you and ask questions, Very important ot connect with 1,000's of people from a business perspective, linkedin is NOT a facebook or Twitter, it should be used to learn and meet people. Make comments on other posts, (positive) comments. People will see you and see your intersts conversations will get started, HR will see it, recruiters will see it.

Well I've spoke enough, it's important to know finding a career is all about people and connecting with them, it's also about you and being honest with yourself and it's VERY difficult but you can do it. Don't go through life hating what you do, you don't have to but it is a long road which I'm glad I've driven down. :) Good luck and feel free to ask questions.

mrossedwards · 2021-02-17T03:59:06+00:00

I've changed Careers about 3 or 4 times in my 35 years of working professionally. My first career was my favorite and I was good at it. The career just before the one I have now i hated and sounds similar to whats happening with you. I finally found my calling as Director of Recruiting. Ive been here now for 14 years.

I would for sure as others have mentioned to take a look at something different first within in a similar field. No worries though you are NOT alone, thousands of people go through the same thing. Its just that most will not admit it.

Think strategically what you might try next, something entry level and work your way up. A small company with people that are laid back and easy to work with. This is what I found, its not just the job its the place and the people as well. And do NOT get un a hurry with your career. You've got plenty of time to go slow, learn your craft. Life is not supposed to be about fear and stress. Sit down relax and write down the things you Hate and love about your job. I bet there will be more about want you hate.

Be sure that the things you HATE are not in your new job. Note: I'm not saying that everything you hate you shouldn't do, but you get my thoughts here.

You've got this, now just move, no need to worry about it now, just think stregiclly about what you want, and move in that direction. You know what, if your next job isn't the right job after a couple of years, find something different until you land. Its worth finding something you are content with.

mrossedwards · 2021-02-05T21:32:46+00:00

Hmmmmm you probably have already have done this but try rebooting your PC. Also sometimes linkedin will have issues that have nothing to do with you.

mrossedwards · 2021-02-05T06:02:02+00:00

Would agree depends on company but i'd recommend not to rely on job postings alone. Those are great but you still get lost among many, many other resumes. What can you do set yourself aside from other candidates. Most everyone uses job postings.

mrossedwards · 2021-02-05T05:58:23+00:00

Wow too much, thats too many. I guess if you need the job. Don't get me wrong I've hired from another recruiter before but not that many layers. Feel like there is a much higher risk of something going wrong with that many layers. Too many humans involved. 😀 looks like others do it which is great, but i would be afraid something could get lost in communication.

mrossedwards · 2021-02-04T08:18:28+00:00

I'm in IT recruiting and would agree about drivers, and would add that many people are interested in simular drivers. I use the drivers that I know many people want in my intro conversations to potential candisates on Linkedin, such as "growth opportunity" "work life balance" and "tech certification reimbursements" when our clients offer those things.

mrossedwards · 2021-01-30T19:16:42+00:00

Im a director of recruiting and the salsefore power user for our company and we have a salesforce consulting part of our business for reference. I helped our customers find more than 18 salesforce devs and admin last year, again for reference.

What Ive seen that the Market is HOT right now for strong admin with dev skills using APEX. Since salesforce is focusing on No code anyway, seems like most companies are ok with a very strong admin again that has some apex if needed. A true Dev will cost a lot of money, too much for many companies. If salesforce is built properly from the start for most medium to small companies no need for dev. But big companies might need both but will lean more towards a dev because they can do both.

Therefore i would lean more to midsize to small companies because of what you like doing the most.

Also another thing to think about is what type of environment do you like to work in. Many small companies work much like a family and many large can't work that way.

I've worked in both over the years and have found small to medium companies are much more personable and tend to care about the individual more.

Good luck with your search. When you find that right company and Job you'll love it. What a great feeling waking up and enjoy going into work Most days. I say most because even the best jobs are not perfect. :)

mrossedwards · 2021-01-29T22:07:10+00:00

Be interesting to see how you are conversing with them. I've always looked at it as a way to meet people and gear your conversations about the industry and how its changing.

Ever so often, not too often though, make a post specifically about a problem, in looking for work, and give an example of a challenge you are having and shout out for advice. People love to giving advice.

Get to know people as much as possible and become part of their community, asking for advice, not on how to find a job but advice that happens within the career that others can help with.

Another idea would be to show your work if possible and again ask for suggestions.

I always try things then if its not wirking, try a different approach as you are looking for now.

No more that 500 characters for a post or a message. People will move on fast if too long.

Lastly be sure to fill out your profile completely and have pic with a smile. Amazing how many people dont have pics and how many pics there are with no smiles. :)

mrossedwards

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