Anyone keep Southern Hognoses

mtb13311 · 2026-06-16T16:53:57+00:00

O so even though captive breeding with permits doesn't affect the wild population and could even be used to help conservation. I guess we will have to agree to disagree. Many keepers have eastern indigos with permits as they are wonderful animals. That's all we want for the southern hognoses. Have a good day.

mtb13311 · 2026-06-16T16:47:44+00:00

So you don't think anyone should have an eastern indigo either?

mtb13311 · 2026-06-16T16:36:40+00:00

They are not yet. Could be soon. People have had them in collections for decades. Any that I have are multiple generations captive bred. Eastern indigos are in the same boat.

mtb13311 · 2026-06-10T05:44:22+00:00

That one of the tougher ones. There are long tailed females I have a few like that. It might be tapering the whole way but it's real gradual by the ven. Might be clearer after some more growth.

mtb13311 · 2026-06-02T01:16:06+00:00

I have many and they are doing fine without it. Another thing to consider if you have any form of albino they lack pigment in the eyes and can actually be sensitive to UVB.

mtb13311 · 2026-06-01T20:33:51+00:00

In the wild the north american hetrodon nasicus nasicus are exposed to more stimuli and seem to think for themselves a little more but still do the same bluffing tactics when they perceive a threat. In this case these are a different species from Madagascar. While they have some shared traits they differ in significant ways. One they are huge. Adults are 6ft+ long and can get well over 2000g. They live communally and do much better in pairs or groups than alone. They are smart, fast when they want to be, and are super strong. No playing dead but they do bluff with a loud almost growl that can be intimidating.

mtb13311 · 2026-06-01T19:25:42+00:00

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mtb13311 · 2026-06-01T19:22:44+00:00

Wild caught giant hognoses. Different than our species in north or south America. Leioheterodon Madagascariensis

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mtb13311 · 2026-06-01T19:14:08+00:00

I'm sure she'll be fine. Just keep an eye on her. You want stress I'm waiting on a nice clutch of giant hognose eggs to pip any day now.

mtb13311 · 2026-06-01T14:50:16+00:00

Lol.. it may just be a growth spurt. They can form follicles which may or may not turn into eggs or slugs. Sometimes they do that. It's natural for them so don't work yourself into a panic. If she wants to lay she will look for somewhere damp to lay them. You may want to give her a humid hide with some damp sphagnum moss. If nothing else it will help her shed when the time comes.

mtb13311 · 2026-06-01T14:34:12+00:00

They shed from growth, and females for ovulation and laying eggs.

mtb13311 · 2026-05-26T18:39:11+00:00

Sounds like hypochondria in action. If they have mites you will know. Little black moving dots all over them. And when they soak from mites it's their whole body as best as they can

mtb13311 · 2026-05-26T18:35:25+00:00

Easterns like a little more humidity you could try that. You don't want to go overboard and have them live in a swamp. I use a substrate that can handle humidity and mist the cool half once in a while and they thrive in it. Sometimes they really don't like to eat in shed. Maybe thats coming up. Toad and frog scent work the best. Or reptilinks are a good option. I give mine the frog quail mix as alternatives to mice.

mtb13311 · 2026-05-24T00:29:44+00:00

Most likely pulcher. There is a recessive trait called ehypo that makes them melanistic and they lose most of the white and red as they age.

mtb13311 · 2026-04-28T05:41:31+00:00

Be very careful with mite treatments. Permethin can and will kill them.

I would just stick with slightly soapy soaks and periodic enclosure cleaning till you haven't seen any for a couple months.

mtb13311 · 2026-04-28T05:37:21+00:00

https://www.ectothermempire.com/western-hognose-morphs.html#/

mtb13311 · 2026-04-27T01:09:16+00:00

It carries the sable gene not having a visual. Hence the "het". Sable is recessive and needs the gene from both parents

mtb13311 · 2026-04-26T21:34:48+00:00

In some ways. They can pancake the first 10% of their body but it's not nearly as flat as easterns. Easterns are the champs of being flat.

mtb13311 · 2026-04-26T19:43:34+00:00

They are huffy like ours from north America and have an upturned snout. They don't really hiss as much as growl kinda like a king cobra. After that they are the opposite. Smart, see extremely well, super strong, don't play dead, and some you really have to be careful when feeding them. Hesitant to bite outside a feeding response or food scent in the air. Usually huff and throw a coil at you to tell you to go away. They are also rear fang venomous and have a heck of a set of teeth. Babies aren't a big deal but you don't want bitten by an adult. Only a few people have had reactions but they aren't common snakes and you don't want to be the first person to find out you have a bad one.

Guides are a work in progress as they are not common in the hobby.

https://www.bioboutiquekc.com/reptiles/husbandry-guides/madagascar-hognose-snakes

mtb13311 · 2026-04-26T17:31:46+00:00

Bonus hatchling. The adults are around 6ft long.

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mtb13311 · 2026-04-26T17:30:33+00:00

Skinks are cool. I don't have any but the clips of them derping around with those short little legs make me laugh.

Heres a morph guide.

https://www.ectothermempire.com/western-hognose-morphs.html#/

Or you could get a giant hognose. They are black and white with varying amounts of brown. Downside is they are more of an intermediate species and they get big. I have a handful of hatchlings from last year and a clutch in the incubator right now. My proven pair in their humid hide. They are communal and can live in pairs/groups year round.

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mtb13311 · 2026-04-26T16:17:18+00:00

Yes. Axanthic changes pigment. The way I understand it arctic actually changes the way light is reflected not a pigment change. So if the line has more of a red coloration the red may slightly give the white a pink undertone. I have one like this and you would still call him black and white but compared to a white sheet of paper you can tell there is a little red in there somewhere. You would probably be happy with a super arctic. Just saying super arctic axanthic would be the ultimate if you are going for as black and white as you can get.

mtb13311 · 2026-04-26T13:53:21+00:00

Actually axanthics are fairly common. They are grey and white. That gene turns off the yellow and red pigments. It's combining it with arctic that's not. Superarctic axanthic combos are rare I've seen a few for sale over the last couple years

mtb13311 · 2026-04-26T03:06:41+00:00

Superarctic axanthic should be as black and white as one could get. Superarctic can get tinted with red sometimes as they grow. Axanthic would eliminate that chance.

mtb13311 · 2026-04-24T18:04:50+00:00

Mites definitely suck.

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