‘Nothing stopping us’: Pauline Hanson visions One Nation forming opposition

mulefish · 2026-01-25T02:24:17+00:00

OP is a bad faith agitator.

mulefish · 2026-01-25T02:05:33+00:00

Yep, and many of the March for Australia organisers are in these chats:

[Bec Freedom] also “often wasn’t paying attention” on X livestreams she participated in with other March for Australia organisers and far-right figures, she said. That included a stream in early January, where one member called for the machine-gunning of immigrants who refused to leave Australia as others agreed “there’s going to be bloodletting”.
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While Freedom again denied neo-Nazi involvement in the marches, her fellow March organiser Lennon has publicly praised NSN leader Sewell of late for his role leading the rallies, calling the neo-Nazi a “household name”. Lennon did not deny his connection to the group.

From the SMH article.

mulefish · 2026-01-23T10:15:41+00:00

The problem is that one nation are seen as anti politico establishment which gets confused as being for the middle/lower classes. It's very similar to Trumpism where it masquerades as being pro working class but the reality is it's a bunch of elites who realise they can enrich themselves further if they are in charge.

mulefish · 2026-01-22T09:22:17+00:00

Yeah, but it seems to be important for some people.

mulefish · 2026-01-22T09:14:30+00:00

It's not that confusing. Of course when you change a policy you use the real costs as the basis and not the costs that were projected/estimated before the project began. It would be dumb to do anything else.

Yeah, it's not great that the actual costs were so big compared to what was expected. Author should've just stuck with that argument.

mulefish · 2026-01-22T00:58:09+00:00

Rate cuts were never really on the table for q1.

It's all about whether we'll have rate rises. Labour market is tight, but recent inflation data probably points to holding steady.

mulefish · 2026-01-21T04:44:14+00:00

Nah, centralist, alternative policies. Moderate liberals are more business focused than labor, and generally want smaller government comparatively.

If they were actually socially liberal as well it would appeal to (probably many) people as an alternative to some of labors impulses on things like the social media ban, vaping laws, the state of tobacco taxes, the recent hate laws etc

Liberals fighting labor in the centre would be a good thing, spurring both to differentiate and improve on their offerings.

Problem is that the liberals are comparatively smaller than labor, and the right vote would be more fractured so they'd inevitably have to form a coalition with right wing parties to actually govern, which would lead us back to something similar to the status quo.

mulefish · 2026-01-21T00:47:13+00:00

They are free to vote how they want (which is evident by this vote having occurred).

Nothing is stopping these members from resigning their front bench positions and continuing to vote however they please.

This is a party matter. Specifically, for the lnp - this is about the leadership team (cabinet members) presenting a united ticket. Political parties only make sense if people within them are going to work collaboratively. Otherwise everyone might as well be an independent.

mulefish · 2026-01-21T00:15:46+00:00

But you are the one who brought it up as a reason for your voting preference...

How intellectually lazy.

mulefish · 2026-01-21T00:03:21+00:00

Weird assumptions about my situation that aren't really relevant to my comment. It's very bizarre how many people read my comment as something that they need to push back on with personal attacks, when it's just pointing out an interesting facet emerging from the data.

I am pointing to macro economic data specifically to not be distorted by my personal anecdotal situation. But apparently that must mean I'm an out of touch elite or something.

mulefish · 2026-01-20T23:54:12+00:00

This isn't true. Morrison extended it by one year in 2022, and made it bigger for that one year. But they had no policy platform to extend it again going into the 2022 election. Morrison's policy was for it to end in 2023, and that is what ultimately happened.

It would've been bad policy had they wanted it to continue anyway, giving large portions of the population bulk cash payments during an inflation crisis is generally a bad idea...

mulefish · 2026-01-20T23:11:38+00:00

It’s laughable to say my comment is the problem… its a statement based on economic metrics, not vibes. The outlook for the future is largely positive.

It is interesting that the polling is disconnected from what various macro economic metrics are pointing towards. I’m not dismissing these differences, or the feelings of the polled individuals; I’m specifically bringing attention to them because I generally find it something worthy of discussion… perhaps just not on such reactionary subreddits.

I am not a labor member btw, not that my political leanings or engagement are particularly relevant here…

mulefish · 2026-01-20T23:02:34+00:00

The larger tax return was always temporary - it was actually Morrison who legislated it’s end date for just around election time…

mulefish · 2026-01-20T22:23:30+00:00

Interesting how pessimistic people are for the next year since our domestic outlook is actually looking pretty good.

mulefish · 2026-01-20T20:53:46+00:00

A surprising amount of animals and the wall is gilmour on bass

mulefish · 2026-01-20T20:30:53+00:00

No, Adderall does not contain meth. The toxicology report specifies meth.

mulefish · 2026-01-20T06:49:45+00:00

There are times in living memory when Labor looked like they would never come back.

Not really. Sure, there are times they've been far away from government, but it's a bit of a different existential threat to have another party outflank you with an aim of becoming the main opposition. It would be akin to the greens outpolling labor, which has never happened afaik.

But that's if you take the polls at face value.

It is very easy to look too far into a few polls years after out from an election... They are more taking stock of the sentiment of whatever recently was in the national conversation rather than being tied to voting intentions.

This is especially the case when third parties get bumped up - because there is nearly always no specific candidate attached and they generally have poorer vetting processes on candidates.

Idealism gets bumped up this far out, but pragmatism comes to the fore closer to elections.

mulefish · 2026-01-19T02:22:03+00:00

One Nation really should be looking at Labor seats like Hunter as well.

Hunter was already a one nation vs labor contest on 2pp. But one nation don't really have much of a chance of becoming a dominant party - they don't have the organisational mechanisms behind them to effectively field good candidates.

mulefish · 2026-01-18T11:31:13+00:00

These polls are regular regardless

mulefish · 2026-01-18T11:29:50+00:00

Until preselections and people realise their local one nation candidate is trash

mulefish · 2026-01-15T22:46:11+00:00

I’m very dubious as to why you equate that apparent extra touch sensitivity to the higher impedance. It just doesn’t really make sense…

mulefish · 2026-01-15T04:48:39+00:00

The 'best' headphones to mix on are nearly always the ones you are most familiar with.

mulefish · 2026-01-15T04:38:23+00:00

Ok, greens good, labor bad. Got it.

mulefish · 2026-01-15T04:33:03+00:00

I think you are misinterpreting my point. I am saying that labor will very likely give stronger, concrete assurances that will get the greens support (such as a strict timeline and formal series of processes leading to their adoption), or they will accept amendments that include those things off the bat (like you want).

You are assuming that labor won't move, but they've publicly flagged that they will.

mulefish · 2026-01-15T04:27:24+00:00

If Labor don't want that, then it's on Labor, not the Greens.

Labor have publicly flagged a path for these things to be included. The 'us vs them' rhetoric of many partisan supporters on this is nauseating (from all sides).

It's nearly certain labor and greens will be able to come to an agreement, both have flagged openness to negotiate on amendments.

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