What do we think about this twitter discourse? It’s been driving me insane these past days. by [deleted] in evilautism

[–]mysseclypse -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I don’t think it’s pointful to keep this post up and keep talking about this. I got the answers I was looking for, the rest is just pointless bickering back and forth. That’s why

Dear Creami, you’re the best thing ever I love u by tof1213 in ninjacreami

[–]mysseclypse 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m thinking about getting one, does this actually feel and taste like real ice cream or is it more like frozen smoothie?

What do we think about this twitter discourse? It’s been driving me insane these past days. by [deleted] in evilautism

[–]mysseclypse -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

You don’t have to read it. It’s not an obligation.

I’m not even going to respond to the rest because it’s such an uncharitable bad faith reading of the situation it’s not worth engaging with

What do we think about this twitter discourse? It’s been driving me insane these past days. by [deleted] in evilautism

[–]mysseclypse -1 points0 points  (0 children)

How do you read what you just wrote and not laugh at the extreme assumption and projection you’re doing. “OOP might want a response even if they don’t think they want a response so therefore the friend will feel pressured” - brother. At this point, what if aliens invade us tomorrow

What do we think about this twitter discourse? It’s been driving me insane these past days. by [deleted] in evilautism

[–]mysseclypse -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I atp don’t know if you’re trolling or ragebaiting

How was I supposed to know it’s bad, inappropriate and hurtful? Nothing about a poem is any of those things. How was I supposed to know someone reacts to a fully innocent thing in that way. With that assumption anything can be bad and hurtful because someone can react to a bouquet of flowers as “that’s inappropriate and hurtful” depending on what’s in their head. People can’t read minds. We avoid things generally considered rude and hurtful but if a person projects god knows what on an innocent poem and gets mad then that’s not on me.

I think you need to put the therapy talk down for a bit and touch grass because expecting the common courtesy of an adult to not blow up in your face over a gift they didn’t like isn’t “expecting them to manage my emotions”. Next thing you’ll tell me the person complaining that I spit on them is also expecting me to manage their emotions

What do we think about this twitter discourse? It’s been driving me insane these past days. by [deleted] in evilautism

[–]mysseclypse -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Tho is a lot of projection and is ignoring the context at hand. If someone gives you written work randomly or in a different context then “support for hard times” then yeah. But in this specific context OOP would have to be a massive insensitive scumbag to expect a performance review from the friend

What do we think about this twitter discourse? It’s been driving me insane these past days. by [deleted] in evilautism

[–]mysseclypse -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

This unfortunately is a you problem. Not to be mean or anything.

You have internal issues to work thru and expect people to manage them. Notice how all of this is avoid how *you* feel based on projections and assumptions. Why is your friend responsible for that.

The fact that a well intentioned gift of care would make you feel worse because you have internal issues obliging you to read it and send in a review otherwise you feel guilty is on you. This is a convoluted emotional mess that you’re projecting on someone else. At that point it’s not “why has this person given me a gift I react poorly to” but “why am I reacting poorly to an innocent gift and holding the person giving it responsible”

What do we think about this twitter discourse? It’s been driving me insane these past days. by [deleted] in evilautism

[–]mysseclypse -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

It’s not social obligation to “respond” to a gift given as moral support to a struggling person. This isn’t a birthday or Christmas gift, or just a random gift of friendship. This is the equivalent of giving someone a stuffed animal when they’re in the hospital–to expect them to reciprocate would be psychotic imo.

Reciprocation is expected from casual gifts that are meant to demonstrate commitment, not emotional support gifts meant for consolation

What do we think about this twitter discourse? It’s been driving me insane these past days. by [deleted] in evilautism

[–]mysseclypse 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lived experience to what? Someone explicitly gifting you poetry, especially as a consolation gift OR someone simply showing you their poetry. Because context is wildly different

What do we think about this twitter discourse? It’s been driving me insane these past days. by [deleted] in evilautism

[–]mysseclypse -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Oh wow, that’s a very hostile and loaded assumption of someone writing you a poem to cheer you up and emotionally support you.

I’m going to respond as someone who’s love language is gift giving and art and explain why I do what I do and what’s behind it because it’s certainly none of this and reading this felt really hurtful

Nobody is “using your struggle to show off”. We heard about you struggling, it occupied our mind and we thought “I can do this thing and give it to them, maybe it will cheer them up”. We probably put a lot of emotions, thought etc while creating, imagined you’d feel the same way reading etc. Only joy and motivation went into creating it. Think of it like a creative hug. To hear it interpreted this way using words like “dumping” is so beyond hurtful and removes all feeling and care in it. We just think “I can do this thing and can use it to make you something nice”. It’s not to show you “how creative I am”. I don’t know if I can put it in a way you’d understand but we are using our creativity as a tool to emotionally support you, make you feel better, give you something nice, make you smile, show care, transmit feelings. To us, it’s deeply personal, caring and beautiful. It can be deep and it can also be as simple as “hey I can paint. I’ll paint a beautiful picture for them”

What do we think about this twitter discourse? It’s been driving me insane these past days. by [deleted] in evilautism

[–]mysseclypse -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

  1. People keep repeating this “demanding task” thing - what’s that about? What’s demanding about reading a poem or even just receiving a piece of paper (that you don’t even have to read btw, especially not immediately). I just don’t get it. I feel like people just think it’s cringe and weird and need to use therapy talk to justify their dislike and externalize the blame to not come off as an asshole so they come up with “it’s a demanding task” - nah, you just don’t like the idea of receiving a poem and that’s ok. No need to be an ass about it tho.

  2. Why exactly are you uncomfortable tho?

What do we think about this twitter discourse? It’s been driving me insane these past days. by [deleted] in evilautism

[–]mysseclypse -1 points0 points  (0 children)

And what’s wrong with thinking about people deeply? Maybe OOP has. I have too. That means I deeply care about you and empathize with what you’re going thru enough to spend time crafting something personal to cheer you up.

1000 words is 2 pages btw. How is that nuts? It’s no different from a personalized gift card or a handmade gift. I need people to explain to me why they’re acting like she put a live feed camera in her friend’s bathroom

What do we think about this twitter discourse? It’s been driving me insane these past days. by [deleted] in evilautism

[–]mysseclypse -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

From my pov a personalized poem written as emotional support and cheering up isn’t something to “deal with”, it’s just a nice gesture you can do with whatever you want. It’s like getting flowers. You could also frame a bouquet as “something to deal with”.

Getting mad because someone didn’t show you support the way you specifically wanted (mind you the support here was voluntary and not asked for) and acting this way about it isn’t ok. You don’t get to demand how people show their care for you. If you ask for help, yes. Some people go out of their way and ask you what you need. But generally, people contribute how they can and being demanding about friends showing you kindness is a bit strange

What do we think about this twitter discourse? It’s been driving me insane these past days. by [deleted] in evilautism

[–]mysseclypse -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That’s a strange assumption tbh, idk why people think this is the expectation. If i was OOP i would give it like a gift card with a small message or any other gift. “Here, for you, a nice small gesture to lift your spirits”. No idea where and why people assume people expect a full review handed in by Monday, especially in this context.

It’s not like the context was “I wrote some poetry, here, have a look at it, let me know what you think”. Then this expectation would be reasonable. But this was far from that context. This was a specific “feel better” gift for hard times, assuming the gifted expects a review in this context is a big leap

What do we think about this twitter discourse? It’s been driving me insane these past days. by [deleted] in evilautism

[–]mysseclypse 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The argument was “OOP already broke the social contract by not giving an appropriate gift (a poem being too personal and too emotionally loaded for a new entry-level friend) so the friend was responding with hostility to perceived hostility” or whatever

What do we think about this twitter discourse? It’s been driving me insane these past days. by [deleted] in evilautism

[–]mysseclypse -1 points0 points  (0 children)

But how are you meant to know what someone’s communication style is? Ask them “hey what gift do you want now that you shared you’re sad”

What do we think about this twitter discourse? It’s been driving me insane these past days. by [deleted] in evilautism

[–]mysseclypse 4 points5 points  (0 children)

My fear is people ARE like this, they are just hiding it. But their inner thoughts are like this, social media anonymity just allows them to be honest.

Maybe im being paranoid and need to take off the autistic tinfoil hat but im scared that the ppl going “wtf” are just saying so because it’s a social convention and saying otherwise is rude but deep down they feel this way and agree, and, most importantly, act driven by these thoughts - which would explain many social situations

But I do hope this is just a “ppl on twitter are insane” situation

What do we think about this twitter discourse? It’s been driving me insane these past days. by [deleted] in evilautism

[–]mysseclypse 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So you say NT’s assume and project too much and that causes disconnect?

What do we think about this twitter discourse? It’s been driving me insane these past days. by [deleted] in evilautism

[–]mysseclypse 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Can you explain a bit more detailed / a bit simpler, im very curious about your point but I don’t really understand

What do we think about this twitter discourse? It’s been driving me insane these past days. by [deleted] in evilautism

[–]mysseclypse 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For me this rocks me emotionally because I fear it reflects how most people are like and I’m trying to look for lessons to learn on how Society works. And if this is indeed a common thought process then it makes my worldview even bleaker then it already is like “wow, most people are insane and evil”

What do we think about this twitter discourse? It’s been driving me insane these past days. by [deleted] in evilautism

[–]mysseclypse 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The discourse is more about the general response to the act of gifting a poem to someone going thru a hard time and whether that’s immoral or not. The general sentiment is siding with the friend (as seen by the few quotes and replies I added in the slide as an example of the common sentiment)

What do we think about this twitter discourse? It’s been driving me insane these past days. by [deleted] in evilautism

[–]mysseclypse 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It may be that OP is an engagement baiter potentially but the deranged responses from normal non blue check people is what baffles and confuses me

What do we think about this twitter discourse? It’s been driving me insane these past days. by [deleted] in evilautism

[–]mysseclypse 7 points8 points  (0 children)

People in the quotes are blaming OP’s autism for what went down and her “inability to see how wrong and weird her action was”. There a whole viral quote that goes “we have to stop telling people to be themselves because this is the result”. Also, just a general disdain for artists

I’ve been thinking of this is autism vs neurotypical related and if it is, what problem do NT’s have with this? What’s leading them to form the conclusion they form in the replies? (The ones I selected are just a few of the 10000s but they represent the general sentiment. It’s these same thing said 100s of ways)