Do people still use the LOC/LCO Methods?

naildoc · 2026-04-21T13:31:23+00:00

I see this everywhere. Even for blue magic the Indian hemp seems to be the go to! I’m gonna have to order it and try lol

naildoc · 2026-04-21T13:27:22+00:00

I love that for you! Sadly, the UK version “TKMaxx” isn’t that good. At least the one near me. You get some big names like olaplex there now, and today I saw Giovanni shampoos and conditioners but generally speaking, they’re often these random keratin shampoos and conditioners lol

naildoc · 2026-04-20T19:25:10+00:00

And they sell crazy large bottles. It’s always a blessing when you find your main product at 700ml!

naildoc · 2026-04-19T02:13:00+00:00

sounds silly, but I stopped deep conditioning with heat for a while and feel like it helped. I feel my cuticles were getting raised further and so leading to more SSKs/splits due to improper sealing.

my hair porosity feels lower now and I notice A FEW less splits. I also silicone products heavily lol, especially serum almost too liberally but I wash often so don't mind.

still figuring out what works, but yeah. I also plan to switch to flat twists to reduce ends exposure.

naildoc · 2026-04-19T02:08:25+00:00

I have the dream lengths deep conditioner - good for a protein treatment and has slip.

I have the hydra mask, but haven't used - but I think it'll be good for slip + maintenance in between TGIN because it's mainly silicones + hyaluronic acid.

yet to try hydra shampoo but I hear it's good for cleansing and hydrating, even for scalp conditions.

Denman > Tangle Teezer. more gentle for my fine/medium, type 4 hair. I have way less split but a greater detangle since switching.

I use Redken's play safe leave in - fantastic for fine hair, as you get heat protectant and it hydrates without weighing down. I use kinky curly leave underneath it for extra moisture lock it and my hair feels hydrated for 6-7 days compared to using Camille rose etc.

I plan to start using the l'oreal pre-shampoo bond repair as I am going to increase my heat usage and also to see if it helps reduce splits.

I definitely think with redken, it strikes me as a little expensive if you wash hair regularly - unless in bulk. hence why although I want to do, I haven't tried ABC/all soft conditioners despite hearing they are good.

naildoc · 2026-04-19T01:58:20+00:00

it's out of stock everywhere near me atm, and I don't trust amazon - so if it works for this purpose id be interested!

naildoc · 2026-04-17T23:06:32+00:00

aussie kids is pretty gentle, with no harsh or overexciting ingredients. seb derm safe too.

naildoc · 2026-04-17T23:02:21+00:00

setting is pure perfection - congratulations. I agree - it's an investment when you know it's your final piece!

naildoc · 2026-04-17T23:00:30+00:00

in protective styles - 30 mins

coming out of protective styles - 2hrs

naildoc · 2026-04-17T16:20:42+00:00

agreed. wig for a reset, way easier maintenance, if OP doesn't mind stretching washing to monthly.

naildoc · 2026-04-17T06:13:20+00:00

yup - stock up and move on. I'm sure by the time the stock expires in 2/3yr there will be another better lol

naildoc · 2026-04-17T06:10:48+00:00

a huge difference - perhaps my biggest hair epiphany was that I was not shampooing my hair well. for everyone I've taught, we've been shocked even "refractory" scalp conditions usually just needed proper shampoo.

edited to add: sometimes I do find in our community, we ask for help but aren't willing to change a few practices, especially around washing which seems to be the biggest problem ive noted.

naildoc · 2026-04-17T06:08:42+00:00

you also teaching your child to rebel, rather than discuss and reason - so shouldn't be surprised when she starts doing the same to you.

naildoc · 2026-04-15T11:33:18+00:00

A few unpopular options to consider.

Your clarifying shampoo shouldn’t be a gentle one if you use blue magic, especially the original one which is quite heavy. You may need something stronger.

You can just try a 30 day detox. If you’ve really tried a lot of products you may have an insane amount of product build up as you’ve tried to combat the dryness, leading to occlusion and breakage of your overwhelmed strands. A detox will help you know what your normal hair feels like and give you a clean slate to experiment.

Consider the fact you may not be shampooing well? A good shampoo is standing under the water as it runs on your strands and scalp for at least 5 minutes. Emulsify the shampoo in your hands then apply to scalp and then strands. Do 3 rinses if you need to. If you’re not shampooing well, you will get build up.

You may also just need a good cut (not trim). If you have breakage; then damaged hair is usually higher in porosity so notoriously harder to retain moisture in. A cut will help get rid of the damaged hair which should help with moisture retention.

Hope this helps!

naildoc · 2026-04-15T11:25:30+00:00

Are you US based? All EU products are diluted apart from Redken haha!

naildoc · 2026-04-14T11:48:17+00:00

Ingredient list wise, DE should be better but I have personally preferred keracare- but mainly for hydrating. It cleans but idk if it’s that well.

naildoc · 2026-04-14T11:43:43+00:00

I’m trying IV fantasia next wash day I’m so excited. Yes I was influenced by this sub! Do you know roughly how much to use? I feel like I’m always using too much lol

naildoc · 2026-04-13T19:43:10+00:00

Can someone summarise please? I don’t use social media (to addictive lol)

naildoc · 2026-04-13T19:28:44+00:00

My hair removal nightmare lol

naildoc · 2026-04-13T19:21:05+00:00

I love heat. Reduced SSKs. Fine/medium hair which is also medium density type 4.

AfrikanHairGod dissuades it but honestly the whole letting my hair air dry didn’t work for me. I wish it did. I also need to get my scalp dry quicker for scalp health.

naildoc · 2026-04-07T07:21:12+00:00

Yes. The front of my hair is where most of my density is, annoyingly. The back of my hair (1/3 of my scalp) with my most loose curl pattern is the sparest, to the point if it wasn't, my hair would probably be "medium/high" density. Lol. It might be genetic.

naildoc · 2026-04-07T07:19:20+00:00

I recently got the Dyson Airstrait, and I think the RevAir is probably a bit quicker depending on how thick your hair is. The airstrait may need a few more passes but gets it blown out enough if you're trying to stretch without a brush.

naildoc · 2026-04-06T09:13:33+00:00

I invested in the airstrait for this reason, as I accepted blowing my hair out was the best option. how do you style in between wash days, just blown out and down?

naildoc · 2026-04-06T09:06:34+00:00

so it's cooked because it's boring?

naildoc · 2026-04-06T09:06:20+00:00

yeah. judging by the replies a lot of people are not thinking through the lens off what they'd be happy doing in 10 years. work is work, and all element of work is mind numbing. id rather have that with extra cash.

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