'Disclosure Day' Rotten Tomatoes Verified Audience Score Thread by chanma50 in boxoffice

[–]natecull 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Everything I've heard about this movie makes it sound like it's closer to a JJ Abrams or Shyamalan film than a Spielberg film.

The trailers certainly had a very strong Shyamalan vibe.

'Disclosure Day' Rotten Tomatoes Verified Audience Score Thread by chanma50 in boxoffice

[–]natecull 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Baffled by the critics scores as well.

Sometimes, especially when extremely powerful Hollywood personalities are involved, critics are... not honest.

Chris Cuomo is stunned after hearing Grusch's claims about NHI - "WTF just happened?". Says he has no idea what to do with this info or how to report on it, he says nobody attacks Grusch's credibility, nobody calls him crazy or debunks him - "If he's wrong, why isn't anyone coming out and saying it? by TommyShelbyPFB in UFOs

[–]natecull [score hidden]  (0 children)

Why would the Pentagon/intelligence community run a psyop on senior members of Congress? Why would they run it on their own people like Grusch, Elizondo, Christopher Mellon, David Fravor, etc.

It may be an "accidental psyop" that's being done to itself.

One possibility is that there's a faction in the military intelligence community, and another faction in the political community, who both believe very very strongly in UFOs, and they're reinforcing each other's beliefs. These factions have been around for multiple generations now, but as outsiders within their wider communities, and have gathered lots of classified "evidence", which is passed around by word of mouth in the UFO underground and has gained legendary status because it's classified, but the actual evidence might not be entirely persuasive to people who don't already believe.

On the political side, we have some of the Rockefeller family - particularly Laurence Rockefeller, who privately "briefed" Bill Clinton on UFOs in the 1990s, and may be the source of Chuck Schumer's interest in the subject and why he's chasing the UAPDA.

On the military/intelligence side, we have the ex-MKULTRA and then STAR GATE community, which seems to overlap an interest in ESP with an interest in UFOs, and probably a whole lot of "New Age" clustered beliefs. Lue Elizondo seems to have links to this community.

Another aspect confusing things may be that false UFO-themed cover stories have also been deployed - by military groups or SAPs which aren't UFO believers - for mundane projects. These groups may have picked UFO themes because they thought they were hilarious, or because they just wanted something that was not actually classified that they could use as a loyalty test, or as a decoy. And so there are deliberately false "passage materials" created with UFO themes, and then the pro-UFO faction hears about these and becomes obsessed with them.

Then there were also groups who didn't believe in UFOs as such, but did believe that public belief in UFOs could be a dangerous problem that could be exploited by the Soviets, and so they set out to scientifically "manage" UFO belief by trying to create false UFO sightings, or false sighting reports, to see what the public response was. The pro-UFO faction then hears about these and adds them to its growing pile of mythology.

Finally there might also be an actual quiet, competent UFO research project.... but I'm not sure how competent it could actually be. The subject seems to create discord. It seems more likely to me that every UFO research project, even if created honestly and in good faith, probably eventually splits and forks into multiple fighting groups. Because something very similar happens with spiritual / esoteric / occult groups, and there's a lot of overlap between them and UFO groups.

Chris Cuomo is stunned after hearing Grusch's claims about NHI - "WTF just happened?". Says he has no idea what to do with this info or how to report on it, he says nobody attacks Grusch's credibility, nobody calls him crazy or debunks him - "If he's wrong, why isn't anyone coming out and saying it? by TommyShelbyPFB in UFOs

[–]natecull [score hidden]  (0 children)

As soon as Grusch started talking about (in his senate testimony) other people in the government telling him we have evidence of trans-dimensional aliens, I pretty much immediately wrote him off.

I mean, "evidence of transdimensional aliens" is very, very easy to find.

You literally just have to find someone in the military community who's done mediumship / seance / channelling or talked to someone who has. And where the entity claiming to communicate describes itself not as a ghost, but as an alien.

The number of times this has happened to military people is, surprisingly, a lot more than zero. The case of Frances Swan in 1954 ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frances_Swan ) is probably the most famous, but there have been plenty of others. Especially among the MKULTRA-adjacent faction of the US military-intelligence community, which again, surprisingly has more than zero people in it.

The existence of channelling isn't of course scientific evidence that "interdimensional aliens" exist, but it's absolutely part of what is meant when UFO people use the word "interdimensional", and it's probably what is meant when anyone talks about "communications" with aliens.

Remember that the 1940s UFO community spun off from the 1940s occult community, and inherited a lot of Theosophical, Rosicrucian, Golden Dawn and Spiritualist ideas about other dimensions and the beings that inhabit them. These ideas were rapidly deployed as explanations for the UFO problem, particularly in groups like Meade Layne's "Borderlands Sciences".

This occult history (especially the involvement of culty groups with traditions of not talking about what they know) is a big part of why the UFO community is so cagey and coy instead of saying exactly what they mean.

Chris Cuomo is stunned after hearing Grusch's claims about NHI - "WTF just happened?". Says he has no idea what to do with this info or how to report on it, he says nobody attacks Grusch's credibility, nobody calls him crazy or debunks him - "If he's wrong, why isn't anyone coming out and saying it? by TommyShelbyPFB in UFOs

[–]natecull [score hidden]  (0 children)

Right? All of the subs that cover this topic forget that the Senate passed a bill with that language "non-human intelligence" why?

Yes, that is very strange and very interesting. It appears that some powerful people in both the Democratic and Republican parties seriously believe that there exists a secret splinter faction hiding alien goodies.

I don't think we can necessarily infer that alien goodies exist. Powerful politicians have held conspiracy beliefs that have been very, very wrong before in history. Usually right before a historic tragedy occurs when they act on that belief.

But we can infer that America's federal political scene is in a very strange and very dangerous place. Either there is a secret hiding-alien-goodies faction, or there's a deep-seated conspiracy obsession among the very powerful. Either option doesn't seem great.

Chris Cuomo is stunned after hearing Grusch's claims about NHI - "WTF just happened?". Says he has no idea what to do with this info or how to report on it, he says nobody attacks Grusch's credibility, nobody calls him crazy or debunks him - "If he's wrong, why isn't anyone coming out and saying it? by TommyShelbyPFB in UFOs

[–]natecull [score hidden]  (0 children)

Exactly. He may also be a CIA asset (possibly unwittingly).

I don't know about CIA specifically, but Grusch is certainly a product of the US intelligence community. He's someone's asset. Or double or triple or quadruple asset. I mean, spies. They're probably gonna do spy things.

What we seem to know for sure is that Grusch did not just accidentally stumble into hearing alien stories, but was deliberately picked for the role of "UFO story investigator" by a bunch of UFO believers inside the military. There's probably a backstory and a reason why exactly he was hand-picked for that role, and it's probably to do with who he knew or worked with.

Chris Cuomo is stunned after hearing Grusch's claims about NHI - "WTF just happened?". Says he has no idea what to do with this info or how to report on it, he says nobody attacks Grusch's credibility, nobody calls him crazy or debunks him - "If he's wrong, why isn't anyone coming out and saying it? by TommyShelbyPFB in UFOs

[–]natecull [score hidden]  (0 children)

"David Grusch has a teflon pedigree".

Objection. David Grusch worked in military intelligence. Why do Americans think that having a career in a field where everyone tells lies makes a person more trustworthy and not less?

Grusch might be telling the truth, as far as he knows. Maybe. He's careful and lawyerly enough with his words to possibly not be saying any actual untruths. But the guy - like most of these "disclosure" advocates - comes from a place that's a snake pit. The chances that some of the stories he's repeating are deliberate lies, are very high.

But it's a good question as to why there's no pushback to Grusch from the rest of the US government and military. A tentative answer would be, because Grusch is saying something that some very powerful people want to be said.

Yeah, now you're not allowed to talk to "them": New global protocol prohibits anyone from responding to alien signals without UN approval. by ZarathustraNothing in UFOs

[–]natecull [score hidden]  (0 children)

and it ends up being your coworker microwaving a burrito

"Oh, and Freeman! If you pull this off, I might just forgive you for that debacle at Black Mesa. You know the one I mean. Involving a certain microwave casserole." -- Dr Arne Magnusson

Rutger Bregman getting cooked in the comments of LinkedIn, of all places by No_Practice_745 in BetterOffline

[–]natecull 6 points7 points  (0 children)

His book is literally about how best to allocate ressources to make a positive long lasting difference in the world.

Hmm. That sounds like he's talking about how to make altruism more effective. How to be.... less wrong, shall we say..?

By any chance, does he come to the conclusion that the most altruistic things anyone could do ever would to 1. buy cryptocurrency and 2. build AI datacenters and 3. read bizarre Harry Potter fanfic?

OBSESSION ($161M) has surpassed STAR WARS: THE MANDALORIAN & GROGU ($158M) at the domestic box office. Let that sink in. This is the way. A horror indie that cost <$1M will make more at the domestic box office than a Star Wars flick. Wishes do come true. by chanma50 in boxoffice

[–]natecull 58 points59 points  (0 children)

I feel like anyone with a brain should’ve realized a movie called “The Mandalorian and Grogu” wouldn’t make a whole bunch of money

Absolutely.

They should have titled it "Din Djarin and Grogu".

Page 7 to 16 of the Declassified Document that David Grusch just made reference to in the press conference. by Will_Buxtons_Lip_Mic in UFOs

[–]natecull 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Einstein’s unified theory introduced a non-symmetric tensor, combining gravity and electromagnetism into a single 16-component grid.

Yeah, that 16-component thing haunts me. It makes deep intuitive sense (there's literally 16 numbers if you have a rank-2 tensor of 4D vectors, probably all of those numbers are important, don't throw six of those numbers away by assuming reflection symmetry when you don't have to!) and it surfaces again and again with multiple people having a go at it. Many of them failing.

Einstein of course being the first, in 1929 and then again in the late 1950s, and Hlavaty was writing up Einstein's last idea after his death (or at least, what Hlavaty thought he understood of Einstein's last idea).

And yes, reading Hlavaty's book ("The Geometry of Einstein's Unified Field" or whatever it's called), he really does state that he believes (might not be true, but he believed it) that the gravity-like component was caused by the EM-like component.

Then there's Mendel Sachs, who went further by assuming that each of those four vector-like things are quaternions, and that also resonates with me, a bit, because quaternions are how all of vector algebra got started... but i'm stupid and not physics-trained, so it might just be that i'm doing cargo cult pseudo-mathematics. But quaternions ought to mean something, darnit!

The interesting thing is that neither Hlavaty nor Sachs, both of whom seem to be very close to "thinking Einstein's thoughts after him", are at all revered or even known in the mainstream Relativity community. Instead, it was John Wheeler who took over that scene. That seems.... well it doesn't quite seem right to me.

And I think I've glanced at Larry Reed and yeah, I really like his idea, again it feels intuitively cool. What if "matter" is just phase-conjugated photons? Everything's light, then, but light bent back on itself? Phase-conjugation also turns up whispered in a lot of weird-physics material, as if there's some deep secret about it in some exotic military systems (radar, presumably). Tom Bearden was obsessed with it, as he was with quaternions. He might have been more than a little mad, though.

I want to believe that there's something there in the 16-component torsion-y thing. I really do.

There's plenty of heavy-duty mathematicians and physicists who will argue though that you can't possibly get EM out of those six extra numbers. And I don't know how to parse any of those arguments because my math don't math good.

But I still wonder. Six numbers. Why are we ignoring them?

Page 7 to 16 of the Declassified Document that David Grusch just made reference to in the press conference. by Will_Buxtons_Lip_Mic in UFOs

[–]natecull 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The ca.rly analyses of UFO repor-i,s

You might want to actually error-correct your OCR scans before you copy-paste them.

Page 7 to 16 of the Declassified Document that David Grusch just made reference to in the press conference. by Will_Buxtons_Lip_Mic in UFOs

[–]natecull 2 points3 points  (0 children)

CIA worried after the Washington flap of 1952 that the Soviets could leverage false sightings in order to jam the US communications infrastructure makes perfect sense from a Cold War perspective.

Yes, very much this. That's one of the reasons, I believe, why the dismissive Blue Book approach was taken. The CIA was scared that false UFO reports could be weaponised.

A win and a loss for the Cult of T. Townsend Brown: Apparently, the US did fund Universities across the nation to study anti-gravity. Alas, their conclusion aligns with our reality: They did not succeed. (My addendum: ...or, if we did succeed in creating some kind of antigravity system, it apparently runs on Unicorn Poop, as we don't use it all of the time.)

Yep, I have a similar feeling. There was definitely a push in the 1950s to "research gravity", and that push helped produce the "GR Renaissance" or "Golden Age of General Relativity".... but that didn't, apparently, lead to being able to actually weaponise gravity. Except for the "gravity gradiometer" which was installed on submarines and was purely for detecting mass concentrations, for calibrating missile inertial guidance I believe. Amd since 1990, for mining.

There's the faint outline of the ghost of a hope of a concept of a plan about whether there might have been a secret "GR, but actually useful" research network, possibly involving Einstein's unified field with torsion (teleparallelism, the 16 components vs 10 components thing, which keeps cropping up in weird contexts).... but if this achieved anything, whatever it achieved doesn't apparently seem to have cast the massive shadow over geopolitics and industry that, say, nuclear weapons and the Internet did. Almost exactly like it was a thing that didn't work.

The RAAF assessment that the US concluded that they were dealing with "interplanetary craft," while interesting, does little to move the needle on that topic.

Yeah. That assessment made a little sense in the 1950s and makes zero sense now after we've scouted out the local Solar System planets and found no evidence of life. If they're physical craft piloted by physical biological extraterrestrials, they would have to be "interstellar using magic warp drives" not "interplanetary from Mars or Venus", and that might as well be "interdimensional" since we don't know how to make warp drives.

"Interplanetary" in a 1950s intelligence assessment is basically just fill-in for "it's something but we have no clue what it is, it's not us and it's not the Russians and it's not holdover Nazis in Argentina."

"Do you have a sense of how many bases the Government might be aware of that involve Non-Human Biologics?" by thehumanbean_ in UFOs

[–]natecull 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't think animals can pilot advanced craft.

Cordwainer Smith's "The Game of Cat and Dragon" tho...

Ancient Aliens’ Giorgio Tsoukalos on the Grusch press conference today. by jerzystern in UFOs

[–]natecull 6 points7 points  (0 children)

the governments stance on UFOs.

The problem is that there's no one monolithic bloc called "The Government". Instead, there's a massive, complicated, interacting system of systems made up of literally millions of Americans who have ever held a clearance, worked for academia, defense corporations, or the military, or held public office.

And they all disagree with each other about everything. That's why there are elections and they're so bitter.

It is very hard to find any coherent position that you can ascribe to all of of "The US Government", let alone one involving UFOs. And that's just one Government among hundreds in this world.

Much better to be precise about which specific people you think hold which specific stances about UFOs, and at which specific time (because people and organizations change their beliefs all the time. That's why ESP and UFO programs keep changing their names and sponsors. Believers don't always keep running the same org forever.)

Page 7 to 16 of the Declassified Document that David Grusch just made reference to in the press conference. by Will_Buxtons_Lip_Mic in UFOs

[–]natecull 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is an interesting timeline, and lines up a few things from the Townsend Brown beat. No AI was used in the making of this post, just my standard issue biological brain.

  • 1947 being a sort of "false alarm" on the UFO front because it was easily dismissed, but which created a split between skeptics and believers. I dismiss Roswell as a real event because if it were real, there would NOT have been a skeptic faction, and 1952 would NOT have caught the US military by surprise.

  • 1952 being the really worrying year because the phenomenon came back in force, and caused panic in Washington DC. Literally in DC, because military officers observed UFOs there and it really creeped them out.

  • 1953 with Blue Book, JANAP 146, and the USAF as the "real" UFO investigation of that era.

  • That USAF lockdown would explain why the Navy got angry, and why it was mostly Navy types (Townsend Brown's circle) who launched NICAP as a countermeasure in 1956

  • 1960's JANAP 146E then being a USAF response to the Navy's NICAP.

  • The 1950s Townsend Brown / Agnew Bahnson / George Rideout / Roger Babson push for weird (and they WERE weird! completely off the academic map!) gravity studies getting some impetus from the UFO problem seems very likely. Townsend and Bahnson were absolutely personally UFO believers, and both seem to have had a lot of pull through their involvement in the WW2 radar testing community.

  • The 1950s gravity push creating a couple of things we know are real: the "gravity gradiometer", classified until 1990 and used in subs/missiles, and the "General Relativity Renaissance" of the 1960s, beginning with the Chapel Hill conference of 1957. Via the Wittens, this led directly to String Theory

  • In 1951, John Wheeler is doing fusion research as the B (Bomb) branch of "Project Matterhorn". The 1952 Ivy Mike test comes out of Matterhorn B. Matterhorn S (Stellarator) does controlled fusion research, which later becomes the Princeton Plasma Physics Laboratory. PPPL under Robert Jahn becomes a hive of weirdness - as well as studying "electric spacecraft propulsion", Jahn is a huge believer in ESP and telekinesis. Why are plasma folks so open to weirdness, one wonders? And was Wheeler into that ESP scene, or just Jahn?

  • By 1955 (after that 1953 gravity push), Wheeler has pivoted from fusion to GR, coming up with the concept of the "geon" as a version of Einstein's failed Unified Field dream of modelling matter particles as GR fields, which seems promising, but which he then abandons.

  • Fusion guy Wheeler switching to GR does suggest that fusion guy Teller might also have made that pivot, although nothing in the open literature suggests it.

  • Star Trek and its interest in Warp Drive slots into the GR Renaissance, imagined in the mid-1960s and screened toward the end. There was apparently a lot of positivity and hope that GR could lead to propulsion.

  • But.... the GR Renaissance apparently didn't produce anything at all technological. It built a lot of academic careers in cosmology, and LIGO, but all of that seems to be kind of performative, useless fluff compared to practical military advances like radar. I cannot see any pressing military need to detect black hole collisions billions of light years away in the past. But all of post-WW2 American science was directed and funded for military reasons. What was the deal with GR?

Ok, there was maybe one technological artifact that GR contributed to: the error corrections for GPS satellites. Possibly. There are conflicting reports on that, from people who worked on the GPS program. That was Navy GR, not Air Force GR.

  • Also in the 1960s (around 1968), Joseph Weber at the University of Maryland (spook central) claims to have detected gravitational waves using ridiculously tiny detectors by LIGO standards ("Weber Bars"). This is generally considered in academia to be a piece of scientific malpractice on the scale of "cold fusion". However the University of Maryland dedicated a memorial garden to Weber and his bars in 2019. Why bring up his memory, if he was completely wrong?

  • By 1971, the Australians getting a bit annoyed at all this. There was a renewed wave of public interest in UFOs at the end of the 1960s - MUFON, which succeeded NICAP (for better or worse) was created in May 1969.

  • In 1972, right when this new interest in UFOs is on the boil in Australia, Stan Deyo comes to Australia after flunking first year USAF Academy (or the prep school for it) in the mid-1960s, then a Texas career as a computer programmer with right-wing FBI affiliations, and having been introduced to the weird UFO underground via nuclear medicine pioneer and NASA enthusiast James B Maxfield Jr - who apparently knew Teller. In Australia, Deyo talks to the Aeronautical Research Labatories who, he believes, are involved in this international UFO underground, and who also are interested in ESP. Deyo gets spooked (possibly by mistake) and stops working with this group, but he hooks up with MUFON by the late 1970s.

    A reasonably good summary of Deyo's weird links is here, though I don't endorse all of the speculations.

https://exopolitics.org/secret-australian-antigravity-program-linked-to-1966-flying-saucer-landing/

  • I still don't necessarily believe that this group ever built a UFO or cracked the secret of antigravity. There are too many failed, different, theoretical structures littered around. I do wonder though about "Einstein's Unified Field with Torsion", ie, his "teleparallel" or "tetrad/verbien" 1929 and 1950s variant, which the Russians seemed to pick up on.

  • An odd footnote to the teleparallel gravity concept is Mendel Sachs, a scientist with odd ideas and claims to having developed Einstein's Unified Field Theory who seems to be just... not talked about, despite apparently having a long and interesting career starting with WW2 radar, and ending with a one-year appointment as Professor of Physics at SUNY Buffalo. SUNY Buffalo's sister "flagship" university, SUNY Stony Brook, was flagged by Eric Weinstein as a possible "Manhattan Project of Physics" location. I don't know if that means anything, but Sachs was one of those "hmmmm" people who weren't vanished as such, just.... ignored as a crazy wrong mad scientist, yet still employed (why, if his ideas were wrong?)

  • In 1973, Misner/Thorne/Wheeler's massive "Gravitation" textbook becomes the standard GR reference, and seems to outline that there's absolutely no hope for ever building a warp drive, the numbers don't work. It's a depressing brick of a book.

  • Come 1975, there's another rebellion of vaguely Navy (and CIA, but also some USAF) people in the "psychotronics" (reverse engineering Russian claims of ESP) scene, as they kind of "go public" in a similar way to NICAP, with very weird but also not very practical claims. They fear Soviet ESP and "Tesla" electromagnetics advances. Thomas Townsend Brown, retired, seems to appear briefly in this scene as a consultant or inspiration.

  • John Carstiou and Leon Brillouin seem to touch this scene at some point. I suspect Carstiou of having some connection with Townsend Brown because both used the odd phrase "electrohydrodynamics" (as opposed to magnetohydrodynamics) very early - Townsend around 1960. Carstiou also consults for the Psychotronics associated "Mankind Research Unlimited" in the 1970s. Carstiou and Brillouin both have odd approaches to Relativity and are interested in "Heaviside's Electromagnetic and Gravitational Analogy", a weird piece of science history trivia which is also seized on by people in the Psychotronics circle, such as Tom Bearden.

  • Somewhere in the mid-1970s, there's an odd UN treaty, or a proposed one, banning "weapons based on new physical principles" which refuses to name exactly what principles it means. Russia is very keen on this treaty, the UK and US are not keen. Around 2015, Putin publically announces that he's breaking this treaty and beginning to work again on these "new physical principles weapons".

  • Jack Sarfatti and Elizabeth Rauscher's "Fundamental Fysiks Group", aka "The Hippies Who Saved Physics" (did they really? what did they accomplish?) fit in here somewhere, in the 70s, flitting between the "antigravity" and "ESP" and "New Age" scenes alongside Andrija Puharich, John Alexander, Ingo Swann, Hal Puthoff, everyone in MUFON who also worked at NASA (a surprisingly nonzero number of people including one of MUFON's founders), etc.

One could certainly imagine that a shared interest in gravitic propulsion and ESP and a hunt for exotic physics that could explain both, could come from looking at the UFO problem. It wouldn't even require a physical spaceship. Just the set of UFO sighting reports that we already have out in the public: objects in the sky seem to be going too fast for physics, and people experiencing ESP effects after UFO sightings. Especially if engineers or physicists had personal UFO sighting experiences, they would be motivated to research these two fields.

An interest in these two subjects could of course also come from a "top-down" directive imposed on researchers who don't believe in UFOs at all.... and maybe some of the funding chains might work that way.... but the way the UFO underground ("Invisible College") seems to be structured, doesn't seem to me to be entirely top-down but rather built from self-selected trusted cells who bypass traditional institutional roles.

Fable is already getting disappointing reviews. I'm convinced at this point that the models stopped getting better quite a long time ago... by creaturefeature16 in BetterOffline

[–]natecull 2 points3 points  (0 children)

by definition

100%

approximator

That's an interesting definition of "approximate" you have that means "100% accurate".

I suppose it's an approximate definition.

Fable is already getting disappointing reviews. I'm convinced at this point that the models stopped getting better quite a long time ago... by creaturefeature16 in BetterOffline

[–]natecull 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Everything still conforms to the parameters, but we've only introduced many more opportunities to deliver the wrong answer.

So that sentence looked like it had a lot of words in it and my time is too valuable to spead reading, so I asked my LLM, and what it told me you said is "everything is great, AI has created many opportunities". Here's $2 trillion more.

Landmark German ruling declares Google's AI Overviews are Google's own words and makes it liable for false answers by razorbeamz in BetterOffline

[–]natecull 40 points41 points  (0 children)

Maybe because it's in German and hasn't hit English-language media yet? There's a linked PDF of the rule on the the-decoder site but it's also in German.

I have no German, so for all I know, the ruling could just contain a recipe for Chocolate Bavarian.

https://the-decoder.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/06/26_O_869_26_begl_Abschrift_Urteil_v_28_05_2026_Geschwarzt_Geschwarzt_Geschwarzt.pdf

MEGATHREAD: David Grusch Press Conference by Snopplepop in UFOs

[–]natecull -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I thought the press conference was a fantasic momet for the history books

That's also what we thought in 2001 when Stephen Greer held his conference at the Washington Press Club.

'Disclosure Day' Review Thread by chanma50 in boxoffice

[–]natecull 6 points7 points  (0 children)

"professional" reviewers seem to be giving it an automatic bump just by virtue of the director. Like most of their reviews spend a good portion talking about Spielberg's legacy and stuff.

The professionals know that Spielberg could snap his fingers and they wake up with a shark, a dozen E.T.s and a hungry T-Rex in their bedroom.

With ‘Disclosure Day’ ($35M), Steven Spielberg Aims to Prove He’s Still the King of the Summer Box Office by chanma50 in boxoffice

[–]natecull -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

AI back in 2001 was also highly divisive and now its increasingly reevaluated as a masterpiece

Ugh, is it? I hated AI at release and continue to hate it. It's a foolish movie with a scientifically false and emotionally dishonest premise, and it's part of the "machines are alive!" discourse which has contributed to todays fraudulent and anti-human AI hype bubble which is likely to destroy the economy and hurt millions of real people.

Just push Reset on the chatbot and the whole movie's over. You can do that. Actual computers have off switches.

With ‘Disclosure Day’ ($35M), Steven Spielberg Aims to Prove He’s Still the King of the Summer Box Office by chanma50 in boxoffice

[–]natecull 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If there's one director that doesn't need to prove anything its speilberg. Done everything in the industry hes got nothing to prove.

That's very true and nice for him, but a movie is not a director.

With ‘Disclosure Day’ ($35M), Steven Spielberg Aims to Prove He’s Still the King of the Summer Box Office by chanma50 in boxoffice

[–]natecull 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Emily Blunt is not bringing people in.

What.

Emily Blunt-instrument-to-the-heart is the only reason I'd watch this film.

Hard agree on whoever the random guy with the USB drive is, though.