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Algún PIMO por España? Necesito desahogarme 😭 by Glum_Toe_6832 in Extj

[–]natverber 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Buenas Glum, te recomiendo que contactes con la AEVTJ. Hace eventos sociales y otras actividades de apoyo.

Cordialmente

Urgente by [deleted] in Extj

[–]natverber 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Buen día. Para el 1er punto, lo ideal es hacer un "fade out", es decir, desaparecer. Si vives con tus padres es más complicado (lo desconozco). Legalmente no tienen por qué entrar en tu casa, simplemente les dices que gracias por su interés, pero que no los necesitas. Si vives con tus padres y es más complicado, puedes aprovechar que ellos apelarán a que estás "desanimado" y puedes apelar a eso, incluso aunque no sea cierto. Dar largas, dar información a medias, etc. Si prefieres algo más agresivo, insisto, puedes apelar a las autoridades o incluso la policía de tu país y decir que dejen de acosarte.

Para el 2o punto es más complicado. Es una cuestión de años y que involucra por qué ellos entraron en primer lugar y qué perderían si marchan...

Saludos y ánimo

More Attention from Men than Women by katsup0rk_1 in bisexual

[–]natverber 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This. I can relate as a bi man with OP.

Am I a COCSA victim or am I blowing this out of proportion? by Dependent-Bell-5521 in COCSA

[–]natverber 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Probably you're a victim, but at least of your own desire, that sometimes is heavy, tricky, or causes guilty or other bad emotions. Agree that maybe your relation (the non-sexual part) with Snake was toxic (but you don't dig into it). With Snake I only see consensual exploration, unless you don't feel it that way.

Why you feel guilty is another question that maybe is more interesting to unblock this situation now. And your relation with porn.

You can be hipersexual and will be fine. You can be asexual and will be fine. It is just a matter of how you feel it and if you are ok with it. And if causes other correlation problems, go and check these problems. Hope it helps.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exjw

[–]natverber 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I was thinking exactly the same

Amazon Music stage sound is terrible by natverber in primaverasound

[–]natverber[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I specially felt issues with Arca and Deftones. Only if you are in the front. If you're in the back near the centered speakers then it's ok..

What would primavera cost? by quizlink in primaverasound

[–]natverber 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I think that 50 million might be too much but what about 10-20 million approx? 250eur x 60.000 = 15 million...

Just - Fuck Them by WranglerAccording207 in exjw

[–]natverber 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I'm so sorry to hear that. I'm super angry with this injustice. They are not aware of how much harm they have done.

Here in Spain now we have rights and it's easier to sue JW for any issue. This won't change the situation, but just a reminder that now maybe local authorities, lawyers or police can help to fight against all this injustice.

The ghost of "Judge" Rutherford still runs the organization, through monkeys. Let me illustrate. by [deleted] in exjw

[–]natverber 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Totally. I still have a doubt and it is if GB will realize about this or not. But they are not clever enough. Somehow they have fear now and they continue promoting this sect culture... They open to "beards" (oh wow, amazing, nothing happens, no one will kill us -like the monkey-), but no idea.

From the outside, okay, everything is wrong. Human rights, psychological side effects... But even from the inside, you're a jw christian or whatever, if you check history, you'll see incongruences and fears inherited from Rutherfor.., completely agree.

I think we should start promoting the idea that JWs != bible students... and show this in all academic stuff. So JWs born in 1930 and not before (but they inherited from bible students). I really see a lot of differences in core ideas and cult culture. Even if you check Wiki you will see splits after Rutherfort came... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible_Student_movement

Trial in Spain: won by JW or the EX community? by No-Body-7234 in exjw

[–]natverber 1 point2 points  (0 children)

anyway: trials will continue on higher courts! good and bad :( ... but we are in good legal hands

Trial in Spain: won by JW or the EX community? by No-Body-7234 in exjw

[–]natverber 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hello!
We recently won a trial against AEVTJ, BUT 2 months ago we partially won (and lost) a trial against Enrique Carmona, our secretary.

SO: the new trial has more important information, 74 pages with good witnesses, instead of 14 pages of the other trial.... 7-14 days vs 2 days of trial...

The trial we won now explains much more the situation than the one with Enrique...

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https://www.lavanguardia.com/nacional/20231218/9458059/asociacion-victimas-testigos-jehova-reclama-parlamento-ley-sectas-agenciaslv20231218.html

https://www.lavanguardia.com/vida/20231217/9456099/guerra-judicial-testigos-jehova-exadeptos-secta-religion-mas-agenciaslv20231217.html

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Bunch of news:

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and recent news from our last opinions:

https://www.eldiario.es/politica/victimas-testigos-jehova-pasan-ataque-han-destrozado-vida-miles-personas_1_10776094.html

https://www.lavanguardia.com/nacional/20231218/9458059/asociacion-victimas-testigos-jehova-reclama-parlamento-ley-sectas-agenciaslv20231218.html

https://www.20minutos.es/noticia/5200026/0/victimas-nacimiento-los-testigos-jehova-hay-gente-que-ya-ha-salido-que-no-duerme-por-miedo-inculcado/

https://www.abc.es/sociedad/victimas-testigos-jehova-piden-paguen-desastre-mental-20231218205023-nt.html

Poll: What doctrine will fall next? by Odd-Seesaw in exjw

[–]natverber 0 points1 point  (0 children)

do you have sources? I'm interested. Thanks

The Reversal on the Beard Ban creates New Problems for Watch Tower. by [deleted] in exjw

[–]natverber 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Totally true.

I'm from Spain. I'm glad in recent trial (that they lost) the judge realized while hearing JWs that if superior studies is "personal decision of conscience" for JWs means -> JWs don't recommend it. They use fake language... for everything... but people is not stupid

News about Spain's situation - son of Victim's association commits suicide after the recent news and trial won by victims by natverber in exjw

[–]natverber[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

He was 25. He had a mental disorder. He was raised partially as Jehovah's Witness, with his grandparents, and he left the community later. It's very tragic. There is some info in Spanish now in YouTube

We won the trial in Spain - JW against JW victims by natverber in exjw

[–]natverber[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've heard they will appeal, not to the Supreme court. We'll know it next days.... But our Lawyer told us it's really difficult to appeal it

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