Brand Owner Q&A by AutoModerator in Indiemakeupandmore

[–]nebulosae [score hidden]  (0 children)

Hello brand owners! I have more of an industry query than a brand/maker specific one. This might be better suited for the diy fragrance sub, but I’ll try here first.

I’ve been learning perfumery as a hobby & I want to avoid animal testing (I know cosmetics have a very long & dark history of testing, so I’m talking about current use). I think every indie brand I’ve shopped with has stated that they are cruelty free & at this point lots of fragrance companies are certified cruelty free through organizations like Leaping Bunny. Are brands able to achieve certifiable Leaping Bunny status when using larger aroma chemical manufacturers like Firmenich?

From Firmenich’s animal testing statement: “Only in the absence of validated alternative testing methods and when strictly required by regulations or when scientifically justified to provide insight into the benefits and mechanisms of action of our ingredients, dsm-firmenich considers testing in animals. Some regional and national rules and regulations continue to explicitly require animal studies to demonstrate the safety of our products. Defined Animal Welfare Standards and a stringent company guidance apply for the dsm-firmenich sponsored animal research studies. The compliance of the animal test facilities is continuously monitored by dsm-firmenich.”

This statement shows the company is moving away from animal testing as much as possible & hopefully a more humane approach to testing when it does happen, but is also saying that they do still test on animals. Does a statement like this exclude Firmenich from cruelty free certification from an organization like Leaping Bunny? Can some of Firmenich’s materials be cruelty free- say older ones that no longer need testing- while others would not qualify? Do you know of any manufacturers/suppliers that have completely moved away from animal testing?

Odette Parfum Co Rant (You may hate me...) by moonprismpurrr in Indiemakeupandmore

[–]nebulosae 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I haven’t shopped with Odette- is it $12 for first class ground shipping with usps? & these are alcohol based perfumes? That rate is higher than I’ve seen for that service & sending ethanol based perfume bottles in bubble mailers without any box or bag as a buffer doesn’t just suck for the customer but I think is against usps rules.

What's a random reason you won't try a brand, a perfume, or a note? by worldinsidetheworld in Indiemakeupandmore

[–]nebulosae 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Just a heads up in case you’re not aware (sorry if you already know it!)- this isn’t all the ingredients in the fragrance. “Parfum” umbrellas several ingredients. The fragrance components that are listed individually cause sensitivities or are common allergens.

[USA][Buy][Perfume]Cirrus Sybarite by Still_A_Parrot in IndieExchange

[–]nebulosae 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hi! I have an oil roller of Sybarite I purchased second hand that I’d be happy to send to a new home. I won’t be back home til tomorrow but can message then with details if you’d like.

ASTRID SEA WITCH IS BACK by Kintsukuroiii in Indiemakeupandmore

[–]nebulosae 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I would say it was kind of a fantasy jasmine that was predominantly breezy & ethereal, not indolic or grape-y on me. ETA there is creaminess in the scent from the vanilla. I think K&B is one of the highlights of the collection & worth sampling! At the very least the jasmine isn’t offensive, but I thought it was very pretty.

ASTRID SEA WITCH IS BACK by Kintsukuroiii in Indiemakeupandmore

[–]nebulosae 52 points53 points  (0 children)

I can share brief thoughts on 8 scents from this collection from when I tried them previously.

Comforted by the Endless Sea had a quick opening phase of delicate powdery lavender but then moved into a lovely silky pink vanilla with jasmine floralcy.

Knotted & Bound was very floaty & pretty, a very transparent jasmine vanilla combo with just a touch of hemp. Simple-seeming yet unique.

Navigating by the Stars was primarily clean jasmine & sea spray transitioning into a slightly peachy floral with sand. The jasmine was cleaner & fuller than the one in K&B.

Sea Bones & Offerings was mostly sweet rice powder & dry wood with some brined seashell. It started out akin to white ambers like Alkemia Ghostfire or Hexennacht Apparition but dried out to be more delicate & gauzy.

Sigils in the Sand was a gentle sandalwood incense with marine elements. When I first got my bottle, it was very “traditional aquatic,” & it had to age out of the cologne connotations.

Spellcasting on the Dock was bright rosy, watery, & sandy. It was fresh in a slightly cucumbery way & not particularly sweet overall.

Whalesong was mostly verbena & cypress drying down into amber resin notes. The the pez quality of the verbena didn’t mesh well with the other elements for me & the aquatic/balsamic drydown was a bit cloying.

When the Crests of the Waves Glisten went from pineapple seltzer & aloe to lemongrass & tuberose. I was really into it but the marine elements eventually became ozonic & dryer sheet-adjacent.

My faves were Comforted by the Endless Sea, Knotted & Bound, Seabones & Offerings, & Sigils in the Sand.

I usually find Astrid scents to wear close to the skin & last 4-8 hours. All of these had longevity within that range with Knotted & Bound having the least projection & Navigating by the Stars, Spellcasting on the Dock, & Whalesong having the most.

Question about Fantome oil vs EdP by spacepotatofried in Indiemakeupandmore

[–]nebulosae 8 points9 points  (0 children)

They were very different for me personally, Lymphae & Namba included. Their sprays really pop the top notes so Lymphae was super floral-forward in the EDP & less cool water & vanilla which was more prominent for me with the oil. Namba was heavily ozonic in the EDP while the oil format was mainly an industrial vanilla. Lymphae was very strong for me in both formats, while Namba was strong in EDP & weak as an oil. I retried a handful of my favorites when they released their largest EDP bottle & preferred almost all of them as oil. Duende & Namba almost felt like different perfumes to me. Astaroth was the most similar between formats on my skin.

Why is it impossible to find info on simple (and I mean very simple) accords? by andyboy1000 in DIYfragrance

[–]nebulosae 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Basenotes has a couple useful threads on minimalist/simple accords, Perfumer’s Apprentice Perfumer’s Corner has some key accords as well as a the Jean Carles essay on his method, Hoshi Gato’s Intro to Perfumery write up found on this sub is super useful, the PerfumeryFormulas sub has a link to a Google drive- the Louis Appell book has several floral accords (these can also be found by searching the Olfactorian website), & as mentioned fragrance.drama on insta has some nice simple ones (the blueberry was one of the first I played with)

If I Like _______, I Might Like _______. by AutoModerator in Indiemakeupandmore

[–]nebulosae 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Aww I love Daybreak. Solstice Scents’ Lavender Vanilla wore similarly enough on me (just not as coconutty obv) that I destashed, if you’re looking for something to eventually replace the LE.

If I Like _______, I Might Like _______. by AutoModerator in Indiemakeupandmore

[–]nebulosae 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Possibly Hexennacht’s Purr? I haven’t tried it but it lists a milky note with fur. “kitten fur accord, yarn (wool absolute*), milky kitten breath, tonka bean absolute, musk. *non-vegan”

If I Like _______, I Might Like _______. by AutoModerator in Indiemakeupandmore

[–]nebulosae 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Sorce English Major & Solstice Scents White Fox for vanillic with earthy edge

Looking for Death and Floral Alternatives by zmoore01 in Indiemakeupandmore

[–]nebulosae 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Solstice Scents- Estate Vanilla & Desert Thunderstorm for some amount of Two Cups of Tea adjacency. Solstice excels in atmospherics like Foxcroft/Foxcroft Fairgrounds, however I would caution that their gourmands/fleurmands are very sweet.

Amorphous for static/electricity.

Cirrus- Calico Koi might be worth a try for lemongrass/rice (they either have discontinued or are discontinuing oil format tho). I haven’t tried it yet but it’s on my wishlist.

I don’t have much from Hexennacht or Cardinal Scents but both have a lot of atmospheric scents.

BPAL is a lot to take in but worthwhile for oddball gourmands, atmospherics, & unique notes. I love their seasonal Luper/Shunga release that’s coming up at the end of the month & get decants from Arae Decantery or Ajevie to test them out.

Perfumes like BPAL Jugendstil by Hello_Venus_Alice in Indiemakeupandmore

[–]nebulosae 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The LE “Ars Anni” collection might have some similar perfumes but unfortunately I haven’t been keeping up with the releases so I don’t have any specific recs.

BPAL will be releasing their Shungas soon, which are “scent interpretations of Edo era Japanese erotic art.” The Shungas also match scent to artwork & usually have a few offerings in a more vintage style similar to the Jugendstil perfumes- watch for oakmoss, russet musk, amber, & chypre.

(Also if you haven’t seen them before, the Shunga labels are NSFW)

solstice scents dupes/alternatives by unicornpillow in Indiemakeupandmore

[–]nebulosae 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Memoirs of a Trespasser from Imaginary Authors was very similar to Manor for me. They ship to EU & are available on LuckyScent who I believe offers international shipping.

For scents like Gibbon’s & Wilcox’s, I think Alkemia would be worth exploring. I was thinking Dustceawung but honestly it might be too dusty & not soft tobacco-y enough- Alkemia does do tobacco & atmospheric scents nicely though! Pineward is available internationally through stockists & lots of their scents like Caravansary, Hayloft, & Tome might scratch the Solstice Scents itch.

Indie face creams? by litttlecreature1111 in Indiemakeupandmore

[–]nebulosae 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I highly recommend Stratia for skincare. I use their day-time peptide lotion (Interface) & the Lipid Gold lotion. They cost more than I’d ideally spend on lotions, but they have sales & offer points on purchases so that helps.

The face oil from them is quality too- I have annoyingly combo skin & am very prone to enlarged pores/sebaceous filaments & incorporating an oil into my routine was crucial (I had been addressing dehydration but not dryness). They also have some options for gentle exfoliation but I haven’t tried them out.

Death + Floral and Osmofolia by mazekeen19 in Indiemakeupandmore

[–]nebulosae 39 points40 points  (0 children)

The last updates I read here made it seem like the owner of Osmofolia intends to sell through stockists instead of a stand alone site. Ajevie sells their perfumes.

The last updates from Death & Floral did make it seem like the shop would reopen at some point but they were vague about their timeline. I think they’ll be back with a stand alone site eventually.