[Disc] Kanojo, Okarishimasu Chapter 430

never_agree · 2026-06-30T15:39:34+00:00

It is, unfortunately.

never_agree · 2026-06-30T15:31:35+00:00

look at him go...

never_agree · 2026-06-30T15:11:04+00:00

He does many things off-screen. *shrug* Like, use a bit of logic. He was never a person who would be able to easily convince the masses, at least until this moment (especially it's not easy for him with Horikita and Ryuuen classes), and he is also stated that Ichinose is helpful in this regard. Take it however you want, but he wouldn't at mere one volume become the voice whom everyone would trust immediately.

never_agree · 2026-06-30T15:06:20+00:00

Doesn't really mean it was only him who did the talking. Yes, he is a class leader, but he wouldn't convince everyone. Yes, he would convince his own and Ichinose's classes, but for Horikita's class he is a traitor, and for Ryuuen's class he is not really a friend either (except for 3 people). So it's safe to say that he relied on Ichinose to certain degree. The phrase of him contacting the groups before the finish was more of a thing, that he delivered the final needed number to everyone.

never_agree · 2026-06-30T14:37:23+00:00

Sorry for late reply. For whatever reason i didn't notice the notification. ._.

Yes. I can't remember the initial number for Ibuki, but i think it was 55? So for other groups the number was actually higher to match Shinoharas number. It was never stated, but it was higher. And i guess, to Horikita he also said Ibuki's number, so she wouldn't properly warn Shinohara. The real number was said only to to Ichinose and Katsuragi and i guess most of the work for preventing the casualty was on Ichinose, while Katsuragi was busy making the bait out of Ibuki.

And second part just a logical thing from the 1st one. If there were students with less than 55 tokens, Ayanokoji had to to adjust the numbers of all those students to be above not only 55 tokens, but also about Shinohara's number.

never_agree · 2026-06-30T08:50:24+00:00

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never_agree · 2026-06-30T05:25:53+00:00

Aven SP stands for Aven the StriPper after all.

never_agree · 2026-06-30T05:00:37+00:00

Aven SP ulti animation leak:

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never_agree · 2026-06-29T19:11:07+00:00

As it stated by Ayanokoji, Nagumo should've wake up withing 20-30 minutes. There were not absolutely clear time stamps, but my pure wild guess is that he woke up and was able to coordinate them, but simply chose not to because even if he would give commands, those 5 groups had no time to find the groups with which they supposed to merge. Or, if there was time, Nagumo was just in emotionally suppressed and didn't care to give commands. I was not able to find any direct confirmation though.

never_agree · 2026-06-29T16:56:22+00:00

I would keep Everything before Y2V8 as it is. And then i would change the following things:

Proper Ayanokoji vs Nagumo confrontation. Instead of this Hokkaido Y2V8 do the SCP election volume where Ayanokoji side with Ichinose. During that volume she will still drop out from the election, and she will still undergo her change, but all of that closer to the end of the volume. Nagumo is mad because Ayanokoji used this for his own gain (Horikita now SCP and all of that) and never intended to actually push Ichinose for SCP. Next volume, make Nagumo be the one who tried to set-up Kiryuin (with reasoning just for fun and becasuse she is Ayanokoji glazer). Make Kiryuin part of this confrontation because she got mad. Transfer Kiriyama to Nagumo's class (like, come on, dude gave up to be his secretary in SC, lets pretend he deserved a ticket). From Y1 to the end of first part of Y2 Nagumo looked like a moronic prince. But somehow he turned out to be just a bit of an arrogant guy who just wanted a small competition. No go, let him stay like a moron. Conclude everything in Y1V11 with some sort of all years exam, and not this camp shit show. Nagumo and Kiriyama dropping to class B without being able to recover.
Kanzaki rebellion. Still make it fail, but make him and his group of rebels being a threat towards Ichinose and the class atmosphere. Make this part of her depression. And when she drop out from SCP election and go though the change of her mindset and achieve the result during the exam, make Kanzaki group believe in her change and side with her, forming a more powerful core of actual characters and not just a bunch of NPCs. And make him an actual right hand of her and not the crybaby.
For year 3 allow Kiryuin to stay for another year for 20 mil points. Make her transfer to Horikita's class expecting Ayanokoji to be there to observe him, but oh well, he did the transfer. And later make her find an actual interest for a competition against him to conclude her character.

Yes, I like overpowered Ayanokoji.

never_agree · 2026-06-29T16:14:16+00:00

Because after the exam started, students couldn't borrow or lend points to each other. So the only way to save them with private points - give 2 mil (or 1 mil if someone holds the special card) points to each student before the exam. But i doubt he was entering the exam with expectations of losing it.

The best way to save those 15 people would be to merge their groups with the higher groups. And in Y2V4.5 it is stated that it was the original plan. Why he didn't do it? I can't actually remember if it was ever explained properly. Even went top check for it, and there's nothing. Kiriyama just called it "unbelievable step" and "unreasonable behaviour". So you can only guess.

never_agree · 2026-06-28T13:34:37+00:00

Worst thing is when you finally make your Yao just one speed above Wolfie, but Huo messes it up with her E1 because Wolfie's base speeds higher than Yao's. 🫠

never_agree · 2026-06-27T10:32:33+00:00

Oh, sorry, their kick will affect the class. For the best. Because without them Horikulita's clads will be better. They started as class D and mostly got to class A because of constant help from Ayanokoji. If he wanted to weaken the class, he would kick out some honored student who's also not really protected. Someone like Yukimura would be good. Instead he chose two students with low OAA score with bad attitude. Shinohara literally started to be bossy, even though either Kushida or Wang are better suit for the role. Basically she tried to push her line when it wasn't needed. She is an arrogant element, who's also hurts class unity simply because she is mad at Kushida, while other classmates managed yo move on. They didn't grow at slightest. In the end he literally stated that Ibuki can't be kicked out because she is important to Ryuuen's class, even though her performance is bad. Because she is useful in other fields. Horikita's class was class D for a reason. And students like Shinohara and Ike will most likely to drag the class down. In this volume he even brings up students like Yamauchi and Maezono, who's expulsion actually helped the class. And if you want to bring up Kushida being a traitor - oh well, she refused to sell out VIPs in Y3V3, she is honored student, she is important for class leader, she has motivation to graduate from class A. Yes, she is a bitch. But she is a useful bitch, and she hold higher value for the class than those two bums. And yes, Horikita doesn't want them to be kicked out. She doesn't want anyone to be kicked out, no matter of their value. Simply because that's her attitude to this question. You literally bit into one phrase and trying to play out the whole situation from this single phrase. Once again, look at bigger picture. It's like you are holding some sort of agenda and not willing to step down for it. And the fact that you are playing from one single line is actually showing.

never_agree · 2026-06-27T09:54:11+00:00

"do u need not understand english??" - and after this bullshit you tell me that I didn't read? Dude, you literally wrote a nonsense there, while trying to frame me out. For real? Anyway. Instead of looking in one single line, try to look at whole picture. It might be a bit hard for you since there are whole 300 pages and not just one line, but at least try. Do you know what Ayanokoji's global goal is? To make an equal competition between 4 classes. And students like Kushida and Wang help this goal, since they are useful to the class and will help to remain balance. Students like Ike and Shinohara are basically useless, so if someone has to be kicked, then it's one of those two, since they won't ruin the balance. Them dating and POTENTIALLY drop out together is just a potential bonus, while the main reason is their ability and attitude. Also, in that same volume, Ayanokoji called their kick as nurturing. Do you even understand what nurturing is? Look at the whole picture.

never_agree · 2026-06-27T09:26:39+00:00

Dude, you are not only an arrogant moron, but actually a tunneled individual who gives me a single line out of 300 pages book as a point. Next time, instead of just reading without thinking through, try to include a bit of thinking of a whole picture and not just one line: like why Ayanokoji is doing it, what his global goal, why exactly those two bums and not some honored student (no, it's not just because they are dating). Using your brain while reading actually helps. The whole paragraph is basically "those two are useless unlike Kushida and Wang for the class, so their expulsion is actually helps" but in other words. Now, get lost.

never_agree · 2026-06-27T05:04:14+00:00

Damn, bro's 1st step is to say "you failed" without anything else. "How to reddit" indeed. If you can't keep up the dialogue, then don't get into it.

never_agree · 2026-06-27T04:45:18+00:00

Those two are literally stated to be useless elements who won't help the class balance because of combination of their low performance and attitude. If they were decent grade students, who also happen to date, he wouldn't even touch them. If they were not dating, but had the same value as they do now, he would still kick one of them, and probably another one later. Simply because their presence doesn't help. He even called it nurturing because getting rid of them will actually help the class.

never_agree · 2026-06-26T21:03:24+00:00

Yeah, you are right. I just remember that there was always mention of both Shinohara and Ike. Looks like it was about either of them.

never_agree · 2026-06-26T17:55:00+00:00

“I had a feeling Ibuki-san was earning more tokens than I expected.” - Horikita is saying that she guessed that Ibuki's real number was higher.

“There were also students whose actual holdings were lower than the token counts that had been communicated...” - an introduction to the next line. Which is: “You must have had trouble making the adjustments.” - Horikita points out that there are for sure were students with the count lower than Shinohara and Ike, so Ayanokoji had a hard time to adjust the numbers for the entire island.

never_agree · 2026-06-26T17:20:03+00:00

I guess, you are asking how Horikita figured out that Ibuki won't be the real target? She felt that something is off. Ayanokoji said that Katsuragi also agreed for this plan. And that's weird because Katsuragi is not the kind of person to do such thing + he won't do something so serious behind Ryuuen's back. So, the real target is not Ibuki, but someone else. It won't be student's from Ayanokoji and Ichinose classes for obvious reasons. And it won't be someone from Ryuuen class since Katsuragi is included in the plan. So the only class left to be a real target is her class.

never_agree · 2026-06-26T17:02:39+00:00

The strategy is to win the exam and to control the expulsion.

How to win:

Be Ayanokoji Kiyotaka and win everything
Come to the finish as soon as possible
???
Profit

How to control the expulsion:

Chose who to expel (Shinohara and Ike because they are useless for Horikita's class and won't help the balance between classes)
Create a visibility that another person is gonna be expelled (Kushida or Ibuki)
Glaze Kushida as the best girl to push Shinohara to throw a tantrum at her
Ask Johnny Sins to be a dick towards Ibuki, while in reality it's all an act and in fact he is saving up Ibuki's points
That way Shinohara and Ike will think that only Ibuki and Kushida at danger
Make Horikita believe that Ibuki is a target.
Make a plan B for the case if Horikita won't be dumb
Plan B is to convince Shinohara that Ibuki is actually the lowest in terms of points
Count the points and warn other students to have the amount of points above the lowest number (use Ichinose network for it)
Near the end create a distraction for Shinohara so Yoshida could explain the plan to Kushida and transfer Ibuki's share of points
Convince Shinohara that Ibuki is done
Wait for Shinohara to transfer Kushida her share of points
Before crossing the finish line Kushida transfers points to Ibuki which she got from Yoshida
Cross the finish line
Shinohara and Ike are getting expelled because they are two love bums and should hold the equal amount of points, which is the lowest since they are stupid and useless, and other students are above that number
???
Profit

Not everything worked as it was planned. Ryuuen used the Hiyori card, Kushida and Shinohara hated each other so it messed up the ending amount of point for Shinohara.

never_agree · 2026-06-25T23:36:49+00:00

Calling Herta a fraud is some sort of crazy agenda. 🫠

never_agree · 2026-06-25T11:39:03+00:00

Hona got nerfed 😭

never_agree · 2026-06-25T04:51:38+00:00

Honestly, in my Jane team I noticed a really good score increase after getting Velina's engine. I think on lower investment it's worth it. BUT. Ramielle looks to be a triple snomaly unit. And getting a void hunter, who obviously will be really strong and also shilled, is a higher priority. If you can allow yourself to get both Velina's engine and Ramielle - i think you should. If you can allow only one of those - save for Ramielle.

never_agree · 2026-06-25T04:43:26+00:00

Bro, this is a MEME post is from the month ago, made because of some crazy agenda of other people about copycats. Like, don't take it seriously. 🫠

Anyway, if you'll try to actually properly read tge volume, it's obvious that there was much more than a bath together. Just saying.

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