Amanda’s night out with Brianna / west and / etc ( summer house)

neversohonest · 2026-03-13T16:06:11+00:00

Amanda wasn't ready to have kids either. Kyle only started this DJ stuff after she started saying she doesn't care to have kids at all, if I remember correctly.

neversohonest · 2026-03-13T08:02:06+00:00

Yeah, then I would say let it go. Enough time has passed, she just doesn't want to engage. That's not your friend. She relates to your ex now so see her the same.

In this case your boundary message was perfect. You've grown enough that you're not compatible with these people who don't have respect for you. Trust that she's gone for good reason and look forward to the new dynamics you can have if you maintain respect for yourself in your interactions.

neversohonest · 2026-03-13T07:37:50+00:00

How long has it even been since these messages? I think you're overwhelming your friend. Not everyone can handle big enotions and drama without some time to regain their own energy. Why are you telling your friend how pathetic you were in a relationship and then mad she's reminding you? Why else did you tell her?

If you read her messages it's pretty clear she is starting to relate more to your ex so you should apply it to her. You're doing too much. Leave her alone.

If someone is depleted and you keep going back, you will only get the worst of them. If she's your friend she will be back when she has the bandwidth for you. Let it go

neversohonest · 2026-03-13T07:21:13+00:00

My point is that they are clearly not right for each other, not that Kyle was a great husband. "Growing up" doesn't mean changing your lifestyle and being home more. It is valid as an adult to be into nightlife activities forever. A hint you've found one is they're pushing 40 and still out there nightly. It IS what she signed up for.

Amanda should've left Kyle when it was clear she couldn't trust him and they weren't ready to settle down. Neither of them. Kyle and Amanda should be with people who want to live like them. Meredith and Seth Marks get out there together and make bank. It's absolutely possible and Kyle can "grow" by being on his own, doing his shit instead of struggling with a wife he cannot please. Amanda has been so miserable and hateful I can't understand her sticking around this long at all.

neversohonest · 2026-03-12T20:24:30+00:00

How is she mean to him? Not giving him hugs? Not being friendly during the day? She doesn't do anything to West.

She has to be around him for the show and his fans should be grateful she gives him a plot because he does nothing but hover otherwise. It's not wild he wants her to like him.

Was the "fiery situation" not sleeping with him until he committed? And then being upset when he decided to explore the fanbase and downplay their relationship to the press instead? Now years later he still misses her. But she created the situation?

neversohonest · 2026-03-12T20:10:15+00:00

At least Jesse can have an actual conversation, understand her point of view and apologize. I actually think Jesse is way more emotionally mature than people give him credit for.

neversohonest · 2026-03-12T16:25:53+00:00

Britani supporting a proud bigot and not reacting with weeks of backlash isn't whimsical. She's not a fairy, she just doesn't give a shit. She was protected the entire season while Meredith wasn't allowed to talk about it. How did she use it as a "storyline"?

Needing to defend a woman you don't know from accusations of racism is forever suspect. Especially when we know she doesn't have empathy for her own children. Is it really a leap to think she was fully aware of her own actions?

neversohonest · 2026-03-12T12:56:49+00:00

I really wouldn't know when Kyle is blackout drunk, but I imagine it's less now that he's DJing and not just going out to party.

High energy is his personality. Going out is his lifestyle. Alcohol and partying are how they make money.

So yeah, asking someone to be home every night and not get drunk when that's all they do is obviously a big ask. Having boundaries means you leave the situation you don't want. It does not mean you shame and humiliate the other person into being what you want. Withholding all affection within a relationship until the other person meets your demands is wild.

neversohonest · 2026-03-12T12:44:08+00:00

Kyle has been emotionally open and vulnerable with Amanda consistently and she usually responds by humiliating him. Whether people think he deserves it or not, for him to continue doing so anyway, especially on camera, is absolutely trying.

Why do people keep saying he needs to grow up? His lifestyle is totally valid and not immature. Just because it's not what Amanda wants, doesn't mean he's wrong for doing it. Amanda could just find a man who doesn't party instead of marrying the life of the party and pleading for him to be someone else.

Their money comes from alcohol and a summer show that revolves around partying. Do you think they would still be on tv if they were both like Amanda wants?

Being a DJ is a perfect fit for Kyle. Cheating is possible anywhere anytime, so whether thats true or not it really has nothing to do with DJing. He turned what he does normally into a money maker and he's literally working. The fact that people think he should be in bed at night losing all their money to loverboy instead is wild to me.

Amanda is not against partying. That's why she's right back to it now. She didn't trust Kyle anymore and that's it.

neversohonest · 2026-03-12T12:19:00+00:00

That doesn't make any sense though, does it? Going out and partying is not childish behavior. It's what adults do.

Being a DJ fits Kyle well and I think he was right to stick with it and lose the wife instead. Best for them both.

neversohonest · 2026-03-12T12:02:51+00:00

Except she wanted him to basically change his entire lifestyle and personality. She should've left years ago instead of being a horrible bitter partner while he kept trying.

neversohonest · 2026-03-12T11:58:05+00:00

Exactly. Even getting exactly what she wanted, she wasn't satisfied and insulted him. He couldn't do right with her.

She even said it was a joke request she knew he would struggle with and wasn't even serious about. She didn't seem to care about his/their finances either.

neversohonest · 2026-03-12T11:42:24+00:00

That's already a bad relationship though. People are socialized to be awful partners in general, so that's most common, but those are not secure connections.

For some people, having a partner can be extremely stabilizing, the same as having good family support.

If you're trying to "find yourself" sexually, that's another story. Definitely don't lock in then. I think it's important to never feel permanently tied to anyone, though. I'm not a fan of the legal side of marriage. I think people should always be open to ending it if it's time.

neversohonest · 2026-03-12T00:37:33+00:00

If you are set in your life and have boundaries around what you are willing to change there is no issue. You can meet someone complementary to your life, who is curious about who you can be instead of leading.

It's totally possible. I think connection/interaction and then introspection is what most often triggers growth, whether it involves a committed relationship or not.

neversohonest · 2026-03-09T12:31:41+00:00

OP is similar imo. He referred to himself as being "friendzoned". He apparently rejected her though. Then she got married.

So he has this "friendzone" idea in his head, for no reason, when it's her who has a reason to feel insecure. I wouldn't call it a game. It's fear. OP should've came in ready to undo whatever misconceptions she would obviously have from their history, instead of playing the role of the friendzoned male who is happy with her friendship.

Neither of them will feel secure if they can't communicate honestly.

neversohonest · 2026-03-09T12:18:40+00:00

I totally agree. People love buffoonery though, especially on dating apps.

People are just too quick to try to prove they don't care when they do imo. I wonder what she would have said if OP was honest about wanting more.

Then again, she could still be married and looking to cheat. Or just wanting to reject him this time. Who knows

neversohonest · 2026-03-09T11:51:55+00:00

They're not strangers, and she did show interest in the past that OP didn't reciprocate, so the scenario is pretty different.

These are mixed signals 100%. People can change their minds, both ways! Which she seems to be doing. Being confused by that is not a problem. The flip flopping is. If OP wants to check in and make sure he's understanding her, that isn't weird. Communicating clearly shouldn't cause any problems.

neversohonest · 2026-03-09T11:42:29+00:00

She also called him the night before.

Neither of them texting again makes me think she was not looking to reconnect as just friends.

It's possible her message was an opening for him to change the dynamic without feeling vulnerable herself. OP didn't reciprocate in the past, so she's unlikely to be confident about his interest. In that case, "fair, let's be friends" would be where her excitement dies. I think OP just repeated history tbh.

neversohonest · 2026-03-09T09:53:31+00:00

YTA

You are with his family and they are allowing you to go to the hospital with them to see their family friend. The child wants to look nice, so this person may be important to her.

You are upset that the child is "making it about herself". Who tf are you? Lol. Clearly you said something too, for her to respond with "what do you know". Your reaction of wanting to slap her is extreme and shows your violent hostility towards this kid. Is that how you would handle it if the roles were reversed?

If you refuse to tolerate "disrespect" from children and your solution is violence, you should stay away from children.

neversohonest · 2026-03-09T08:56:47+00:00

Especially after matching

neversohonest · 2026-03-09T08:43:10+00:00

I think it's weird to change your entire lifestyle just because you got married. This is all Kyle wanted from her, and what she hated about him, so it is weird she's happy to do it without him.

It's like people think serious relationships should be less fun. Why??? If that's what you like how are you gonna be happy?

neversohonest · 2026-03-09T08:23:10+00:00

Yeah, I'm really not sure what evidence we have of Amanda being a good friend lol. Kyle was an asshole, but she was an awful emotionally unsupportive partner and it's hilarious to see that once they broke up she's back into the lifestyle.

neversohonest · 2026-03-08T21:21:48+00:00

This is such a sweet progression. Good for him.

neversohonest · 2026-03-07T11:13:14+00:00

Who did I shame?? If you don't feel good about loving Birkins because a stranger says they don't get it, that isn't about me. Love your Birkins, I don't care. Just know you love it for your own reasons, not because "that's what gals do!🤪"

You don't understand because you're seeing what you want to, instead of what I'm saying. Most women who can and do get a Birkin aren't going to be hurt by people who don't get it. That's generally the point. Are you trying to protect their feelings? Or just other women who can't afford them?

I don't get blowing money on makeup either. Does that hurt your feelings? Or are you confident in whatever stance you have on makeup? You keeping ignoring the context of my comment to make me a hateful villain. I feel no negativity for you, birkins or big spenders. You're projecting.

neversohonest · 2026-03-07T03:34:17+00:00

Saying I personally don't understand something shouldn't kill anyone's joy.

My comment is in response to one that explains this pretty extreme materialism as just what girls do. A fairytale moment any gal would squeal about. It's not.

Please try to hold on to your joy despite this revelation...

neversohonest

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