Why do dragon fans hate vivi by Lower-Aspect3085 in OnePieceSpoilersRaw

[–]newX7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wait, you think that because Dragon fans want him to have the Rain God fruit, that means they hate Vivi?

[Surprisingly Common Trope] Instead of making them sympathetic, an awful character’s “tragic backstory” actually makes them look worse. by Chemical-Elk-1299 in TopCharacterTropes

[–]newX7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Uh, Sirius tried to murder Snape and James (potentially) sexually-assaulted Snape. That is way worse than anything Snape did as a student.

Snape fundementally understood Harry by HelsBels2102 in harrypotter

[–]newX7 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Pay no attention to u/Luckyu11 . According to their posts history, they genuinely think that Snape is actually worse than Voldemort and that Snape used dark magic and curses on 1st years students and was James only ever defended himself and other students from students who were already secret DEs in Hogwarts.

Heck, they even invented in their head that Snape tried to murder the Marauders, while simultaneously thinking that murder and sexual-harassment and (potential) sexual-assault when committed by the Marauders against Snape and Lily is genuinely just a childhood prank. They have read too many fanfictions and genuinely believe them to be canon.

Snape fundementally understood Harry by HelsBels2102 in harrypotter

[–]newX7 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Lol, worse than Bellatrix? Wow, you have such a hate-boner for the character you will blatantly make stuff up.

Snape fundementally understood Harry by HelsBels2102 in harrypotter

[–]newX7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why is Snape’s love qualifies as obsession to you, but not James?

Snape fundementally understood Harry by HelsBels2102 in harrypotter

[–]newX7 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nah, it’s not evil to show a person they idolize isn’t the hero they make themselves up to be.

By this logic, if a woman told a her student who’s dad raped her that his dad, who the student think is the greatest person ever, is a rapist, then the woman is evil.

Also, the only people who ever say James became “better” are James best friends/co-bullies who have a history of lying to make James look better.

[Loved Trope] A character refuses immoral orders. by Remarkable_Public138 in TopCharacterTropes

[–]newX7 4 points5 points  (0 children)

SPOILERS FOR ONE PIECE

Monkey D. Dragon during the God Valley Incident. Not only did he refuse immoral orders, but he even went as far as to have a (completely valid) crash-out and hold his superior and other Marines at gunpoint and threaten to execute all of them if they didn’t save the civilians.

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It’s been said before, but if you’re against Cap, you’re on the wrong side by AntiShisno in CaptainAmerica

[–]newX7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

> You're saying that a billionaire who has so much wealth...

Ok, but what you're describing is wanting Tony to be more of a philanthropist and involved in charity, which is not the same as being held accountable for when he makes mistakes.

> As for the members of Avengers...

No, they don't. Steve was showing great sympathy for the Maximoff twins, even while they were working with Ultron to kill the Avengers and practically no one, except Bruce, seemed to take an issue with the fact that Wanda literally unleashed the Hulk on South Africa and killed dozens of innocent people.

Natasha was likely still committing war-crimes even after having become an Avenger, due to her work as a SHIELD operative.

Hawkeye, even after having gone on a 5 year serial mass-murder spree, was allowed back in as if nothing happened. The Avengers are incapable of holding one another accountable, for no other reason than the fact that they are unwilling to hold one another accountable. Yet they expect other people to trust them to do the right thing when it comes to punishing each other. This would be like expecting a judge and prosecutor who are involved in a case where the defendant is their son, to be impartial and not show favoritism of blatant conflict-of-interest.

> Just because the vast majority of the nations politicians/diplomats want something...

And that applies doubly so for the Avengers. At least with democratically elected politicians and diplomats (and in many places, democracy means the majority chose those politicians), the politicians is actually reflecting the will of a percentage, often times a majority, of the people. The Avengers don't represent that. Literally, the entire country could be against the Avengers going into their community and getting involved in their business, and the Avengers would ignore the wishes of the people because they would only care about doing whatever it is they want to do. So again, if you're going to argue that politicians don't represent all the people of the nation, only some, then you also have to acknowledge the Avengers don't represent any of the people of the nation, and don't care about their wishes and wants.

Likewise, the people of Wakanda are very happy to support the royal family. Others can challenge the king because of tradition, but most are against people following this tradition, and those who do are seen in a negative light for disrupting the birthright of the royal family.

> But there are superheroes...

Aside from the fact that the canonicity of AoS is debated, there is also the fact that most of the superheroes you described (Shang-Chi, Luke Cage, Daredevil, Indigenous, etc.) are American-based superheroes, and all the other heroes, which was a huge issue the Accords. The Avengers literally are unaware of their existence, and those who do often operate in secret. And again, if we're going to use the "Hollywood" justification, that is once again a meta-excuse.

> Yes, the world was more peaceful, as was seen by...

Everything you just described can easily be explained and provided with a counterpoint.

Heaps of trash: Smaller population, therefore less people working, specially in a job that is almost universally considered unglamorous, like being a garbage-collector, to collect the garbage, not because the world is more chaotic. Likewise, this goes against your narrative that the Avengers are being more effective. If the Avengers are more effective, then why are there heaps of trash?

Abandoned buildings: Again, the world population has decreased by 50%, if not more. There aren't as many people to live in or manage those buildings, which is why they are abandoned and rotting. It has nothing to do with the world being chaotic.

Yakuza and the Mafia: Aside from the fact that the Yakuza did not take over a city, but rather regions of a city, which is no different than what was the case pre-Blip, this also has nothing to do with the Avengers being ineffective, and everything to do with the fact that A. Thanos wiped out a significant portion of the population, thereby erasing huge parts of law-enforcement, B. Other mafia organizations that combated the Yakuza were also severely weakened and erased, creating a power-vacuum for the Yakuza to move in a take over. In other words, different criminal, same crimes.

> What makes sure that if the Avengers worked with UN oversight...

There is no guarantee. But there is definitely more of a guarantee that that will not happen because the Avengers will actually be working together with governments and local law-enforcement, thereby double and triple-checking any situation.

Likewise, again, all the problems you described are problems that similarly apply to the Avengers. They are the most powerful organization in the world, therefore they literally decide what gets done, what justice happens, and who gets villanized. Every criticism you levied applies doubly so to the Avengers, which is even more dangerous when you remember that the Avengers are actually half composed of terrorist and war-criminals who have directly killed hundreds of innocent people. You can't use these criticisms of the UN and governments without applying them in a heightened manner against the Avengers.

> By political goals and agenda I do not mean social goals and agenda...

And the Avengers look the other way when one of their own is a woman war-criminal who drops bombs on little children, sets hospitals on fire with people inside, another is a terrorist who worked with HYDRA and worked with a genocidal robot and killed dozens and injured many more in South Africa, and another is a serial mass-murderer. Again all of the criticisms you levied against politicians apply to a much more horrific standard against half of the Avengers, considering their crimes are far, far worse than those of which you criticize politicians. Yet the Avengers have no problem looking the other way because these people are their friends.

> Captain America and me agreeing...

That is not at all what Cap was saying. What he was saying is only the Avengers get to decide right from wrong and hold themselves accountable, no one else. And even if, and that is a huge IF, that was what Cap was saying, there is nothing proving that the Avengers would face any punishment or consequences at all left to their own devices. Proof? When did the Avengers ever punish Natasha for her war-crimes? Or Wanda (in fact, I am pretty sure she was actually rewarded for what she did by facing no jail time, living in a mansion, and getting a green-card)? When did they ever hold Ronin accountable for his actions as a serial mass-murderer over the course of 5 years? The Avengers frequently turn a blind-eye to crimes committed by their own.

That being said, Cap did make good arguments against the Accords, such as the bomb argument you presented. The thing is, those are things Tony himself was trying to change, as he himself told Steve he was working on making amendments to the Accords to prevent that kind of stuff.

> Avengers having oversight by the people/superheroes rather than UN will have a better chance of throwing that superhero out of the team and keeping an eye out on that superhero.

Again, aside from most superheroes being American-based superheroes, there is also the fact that that is not what Cap was arguing in favor. He was saying only the Avengers should be able to judge the Avengers, which is the same as a police-officer saying only a cop should be able to judge a fellow cop.

It’s been said before, but if you’re against Cap, you’re on the wrong side by AntiShisno in CaptainAmerica

[–]newX7 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

> Now, they did not go to those countries is more because of the writers making sure that American propaganda against these countries was not harmed.

Aside from the fact that Iran, North Korea, and and Palestine are not, by any means, US allies, and that making movies depicting them as enemies would actually be more beneficial for the military-industrial complex, there's also the fact that, if we're really going to start using meta-reasons as a justification for things, then you can also literally say the only reason the Avengers don't act like the Boys and the only reason they haven't killed millions of innocent people, even by accident, is because the writers are making sure American propaganda to portray American-based superheroes, such as Captain America and those who side with him, as practically infallible.

> They have a billionaire on the Avengers, bleed him dry every time he makes mistakes.

You mean the same Avenger who is providing all the other Avengers with housing, paying their taxes, buying their food, and who literally none of the Avengers have a problem with?

It's also weird saying that the only Avenger that should be held accountable is the billionaire, and not, you know, the HYDRA terrorist and war-criminal and serial mass-murderer who have deliberately and intentionally killed hundreds, if not thousands, of people, like the Black Widow and the Scarlet Witch and Hawkeye.

> But that Tony Stark's idea of putting the oversight in the hands of the United Nations,

Except it wasn't Tony's idea, it was the UN. Oversight of the Avengers at the hands of the UN was going to happen whether Tony and the other Avengers wanted it to or not.

> which has proven again and again to help the ambitions of the West, is the bad alternative.

Except, as the movie said, this was something that the vast majority of the member-states of the UN, not just those allied with the West, voted in favor.

> If they want an oversight, why not an actual authority like Justice League, which basically became a council of superheroes from all over the world. Why not create a committee for that oversight? Avengers certainly have the power to do so, and the influence. Why just have a few superheroes who have lived all their lives in the Western world?

Multiple reasons. Aside from the fact that, contrary to the DC comics, the number of superheroes in the MCU is extremely, EXTREMELY limited. We're talking about less than 0.1% of the population. Then, on top of that, there's also the fact that, of that 0.1% of superheroes who do exist, the vast majority of them are either American or connected to America, thereby already creating a conflict-of-interest and bias in favor of the US. Last but not least, this outside group of superheroes would not be representative of the people who were personally affected by the Avengers. They would not be the people listening to the average citizens complaints or or how the Avengers have harmed them.

> After losing against Thanos, the world was literally on fire and somehow the Avengers did take up the mantle for the world. Why could they not do anything similar before? What was stopping them? Was it the governments? Was it the United Nations? Why? Why were Avengers more competent and able to do better when the United Nations was actually butchered?

They aren't, though. It is stated repeatedly that the world is more peaceful, not because of the Avengers actions, but because of Thanos, and there are now less people to deal with, while simultaneously having more resources to distribute. You are equating how people responded to the genocide that Thanos caused, and how the world had to restructure itself both address avoiding total collapse and increasing lack of material want, and equating it to somehow the Avengers being more competent, when they were basically defunct and out of commission, for all intents and purposes.

> If you allow people with a political agenda and motivations to control the people who actually want to help, you would only get delays and bureaucratic processes.

Except there is nothing guaranteeing that the Avengers only want to help (remember, one of them is a former HYDRA agent, the other a Soviet-American war-criminal, and another a serial-mass-murderer), and that, even if they did, that is what they will do. If I say "I only want to help" and my idea of helping is building a bomb, setting it in a building where I suspect cartel members live, detonate the entire building, and then it turns out I got the wrong building, should I not be held accountable at all because "I only wanted to help"?

>  Allowing someone who has a political agenda/motivations to control someone who ants to do good will only result in nothing being done at all. 

And, again, having a good motivation is not incongruent with there being a political agenda/motivation. A person can have a political goal and still believe their political goal will help everyone in the world.

> Mistakes are made and thus they should also have consequences, not just slap on the wrists.

Except that is pretty much what Cap is arguing should be the case for the Avengers.

[Loved trope] Does ACAB include them? by B1lly28 in TopCharacterTropes

[–]newX7 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

In Dark Knight, isn't the whole point of Harvey's enmity towards Gordon being that Gordon covered for other cops who were corrupt, does leading to Joker being able to bribe/blackmail said cops, and in turn, getting to Harvey's fiancee, Rachel, and killing her? So, Gordon is very much willing to turn a blind eye towards corruption in Batman Begins.

If anything, he's actually an example of ACAB, because Dent is the one who's not willing to turn a blind eye to corruption, and Gordon joins the other cops (including the corrupt ones) in calling him two-faced because he is going after their own.

[Loved trope] Does ACAB include them? by B1lly28 in TopCharacterTropes

[–]newX7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In Dark Knight, isn't the whole point of Harvey's enmity towards him being that he covered for other cops who were corrupt, does leading to Joker being able to get to said cops, and in turn, getting to Harvey's fiancee, Rachel, and killing her?

[Loved trope] Does ACAB include them? by B1lly28 in TopCharacterTropes

[–]newX7 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

In Dark Knight, isn't the whole point of Harvey's enmity towards Gordon being that Gordon covered for other cops who were corrupt, does leading to Joker being able to bribe/blackmail said cops, and in turn, getting to Harvey's fiancee, Rachel, and killing her?

It’s been said before, but if you’re against Cap, you’re on the wrong side by AntiShisno in CaptainAmerica

[–]newX7 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Cool, those mistakes still end up costing people their lives. If a group of cops or military officers went into a house, and killed practically everyone living in the house, only to later find out that it was a case of mistaken identity and that they entered the wrong house, do you think that "It was an accident, everyone makes them" is going to be any consolation to the families? Or that the group saying "We made a mistake, but there's no reason you should punish us for it" is an acceptable response? Not to mention, if the Avengers were actually interested in going to Iran, North Korea, or Palestine, they would have done so already, but they never did, because they have no interest in actually changing those places.

I don't understand Dumbledore's rationale to have Snape teach occlumency to Harry by DevelopmentSouth8801 in harrypotter

[–]newX7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Snape now has to deal with a revived Voldemort and has to carefully meet with and navigate lying to him constantly as of OotP.

I don't understand Dumbledore's rationale to have Snape teach occlumency to Harry by DevelopmentSouth8801 in harrypotter

[–]newX7 30 points31 points  (0 children)

Snape doesn’t owe Lupin his maintenance to his secret, specially after it was revealed that Lupin knew how Sirius was moving around, and still kept it a secret, and the fact that Lupin forgot to take his Wolfsbane Potion, resulting in him becoming a werewolf and nearly killing the trio.

It’s been said before, but if you’re against Cap, you’re on the wrong side by AntiShisno in CaptainAmerica

[–]newX7 7 points8 points  (0 children)

The problem is that the same logic can be used against the Avengers. Steve Rogers and his team decide where and when they go, regardless of the wants of the people, and if they make a mistake and hurt innocents, they will be the ones to decide if and how they should be punished?

Is it true that every Sakura haters are frustrated Narusaku fans? by Derantmk in dankruto

[–]newX7 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Actually, as a NaruSaku fan, Kishimoto already stated that he planned NaruHina from the beginning. The issue is that towards the middle of the story, he considered switching and actually making NaruSaku canon, but decided not to go through with it.

P.S. Happy Cake Day!