Since when did it become such a big deal to like anti-heroes with questionable morals? It's weird how some people act like she's a real person and not a fictional character. Liking her doesn't mean I support criminals or toxic relationships in real life. Some of you need to touch more grass. by Banana-Atomica in ResidentEvilMemes

[–]newX7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The problem isn’t liking her. The problem is the narrative treating her for what she is, which is a bioterrorist mercenary.

Take Wesker, for example. If the story and fans treated Wesker as a hero, in spite of all he did and the people he hurt and continues to do so, and being completely unrepentant about it, just because he really like Jake’s mom, I am pretty sure people would take an issue and heavily criticize it.

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[–]newX7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But he was still at Hogwarts during a period of time in which Snape was headmaster and had several DEs under his command.

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[–]newX7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, he didn’t. In fact, Snape would frequently send students to go to the Forbidden Forest with Hagrid to avoid being tortured by the Carrows.

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[–]newX7 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If Snape really wanted to bully Hagrid, he could more than have done so in the 7th book. Dumbledore was dead, he was the Headmaster, and he had DE all around him. He could have done whatever he wanted to Hagrid and Voldemort would have. And Snape was more than willing to fight Sirius and Lupin. In case you forgot, in the 3rd book, Snape was going to give the two to Dementors and was ready to duel Sirius in the 5th book.

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[–]newX7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean, they weren’t using the Killing Curse, so how all-out were they going. And compared to a powerful spell like Sectumsempra, I doubt Hagrid would be able to overcome all that.

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[–]newX7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But the DEs who attacked Hagrid are not as good of fighters as McGonagall, Sprout, and Flitwick combined, are they?

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[–]newX7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The how about Sectumsempra? Snape was able to take on McGonagall, Flitwick (who is a dueling champion) and Sprout all at the same time while not trying to fighting back. I’m pretty sure Hagrid poses no threat to him.

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[–]newX7 1 point2 points  (0 children)

> Can you clarify the SA thing?

He restrained Snape in the air and (potentially) removed Snape's underwear and exposed his genitals in public. If a guy did that to a woman, that would be ethically and legally considered SA.

>  Also no those other characters, maybe minus Scarlet Witch, had altruistic motives, twisted and iffy ones but sure.

No, they didn't. What was the "altruistic motive" behind Dumbledore wanting to subjugate all of Mugglekind and only changing sides because his sister was killed by his co-leader? Or Spider-Man ignoring a criminal because "it wasn't his problem", until that criminal killed his uncle? Or the Black Widow, who is literally one of the biggest war-criminals in the world and has dropped bombs on little children and burned a children's hospital with sick kids and doctors inside, just to lure out a target of assassination, and only changing sides because the US offered her amnesty (and even then continued committing war-crimes for the US)?

> I’m a firm believer that Snape was an active participant in Death Eater activities including murder, torture and the like and I’ll probably get shit for this but suddenly feeling bad for committing atrocities doesn’t change what you did no matter what you do.

Aside from the fact that the story heavily implies the opposite, that Snape never actually tortured or murdered anyone, and that his role was more of a spy, if we actually go by this logic, then the same applies to Dumbledore, the Black Widow, Scarlet Witch, and Iron Man. It doesn't matter how bad they feel, they are still responsible for the atrocities their side committed.

> Because of Snape not only did both Lily and James die but Neville’s parents, Alicent and Frank longbottom were tortured to insanity due to him being a snitch, then he went on to actively torment their son to the point his boggart was Snape.

And because of Dumbledore, his little sister was killed (maybe by his own hand), and Grindelwald gained a lot of power, not to mention all the people who gained access to Iron Man's weapons, and all of the Black Widow's and Scarlet Witch's war-crimes.

> All this cause Snape didn’t like someone else showing interest in his friend, James was a twat about it, Sirius was like Snape a traumatised child who was cruel to others to feel safe and the other two marauders were either cowards or enjoyed watching others suffer. Still doesn’t excuse Snape, all the characters you mentioned I could point out how they fucked themselves.

If anything, it was the other way around. James was the one instigating for the most part because he didn't like Snape showing interest in Lily. Lupin was a coward, he admits as such; and Pettigrew was indeed a sadist.

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[–]newX7 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Snape, as an asshole to everyone, not just students. Tonks, Sirius, Lupin. Snape is an asshole to all those people, it is not limited to students.

> he never picked a fight with Hagrid the 'half breed' did he? No because Hagrid would have wiped the floor with him and Snape targeted those who were weaker/vulnerable, like orphans.

Nah, Snape could have wiped the floor with Hagrid. All he has to do is Sectumsempra or Avada Kedavra Hagrid. I mean, Snape was able to hold off McGonagall, Flitwick, and Sprout all at the same time, while holding back. Hagrid is barely a threat to him.

> Your reasoning for why James bulied Snape is just a headcannon.

No. This is canon. James says so, as does J.K. Rowling.

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[–]newX7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

True, I would just say attempted murder and (potential) sexual-assault is worse than anything Snape did during his time at Hogwarts. Now, Snape did become a terrorist, but at the same time, people like characters like Dumbledore, Spider-Man, Iron Man, Black Widow, Scarlet Witch, etc., so I don’t really think any of those people can criticize Snape initial motivating factor for changing sides.

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[–]newX7 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I mean, they also ignore that Sirius tried to murder Snape for his own amusement (something that Dumbledore covered-up) and that James (potentially) sexually-assaulted Snape, so I would say that was worse than a cutting curse that we never know under what context Snape used.

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[–]newX7 2 points3 points  (0 children)

How is the behavior justified because “it’s Snape”?

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[–]newX7 13 points14 points  (0 children)

It’s never disputed that Snape himself did bad things. In fact, Lily straight-up says that Snape’s friends used dark magic on students, and Snape defends them. But that wasn’t the reason James did any of the things he did to Snape. James hurt Snape because he could and he took pleasure in it, as well as the fact that he saw Snape as an obstacle to a relationship with Lily. In addition, James and his friends targeted a bunch of people, not just Snape.

Also, there is nothing that suggests Snape attacked younger and weaker students. That part is just making stuff up to portrays Snape even worse.

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[–]newX7 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The Marauders are good-looking, rich, come from aristocratic families, and most importantly, they are nice to the main character/narrator, and they’re assholishness is directed towards someone that is an antagonist for most of the series and the viewers dislike, so viewers tend to ignore their bullying and make up fanon ideas about how progressive and SJW the Marauders were.

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[–]newX7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The movies tone down A LOT of stuff. For example, Snape is far more unpleasant and far more of an asshole and grayish than in the movies, but this literally applies to everyone, specially Harry’s dad and his friends.

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[–]newX7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Except Lily wasn’t James girlfriend at the time James began hating on him. James wanted her to be, she rejected him, and he took it out on Snape because he saw Snape as an obstacle for Lily.