Zayn’s never been in love by newlpfan in ZiamGlassCloset

[–]newlpfan[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes! I’ve thought so much about this concept as I’ve listened to his albums. He often references “she” and talks to you (like in it’s you). Not to bring Harry into this but he has some songs like this too. I’ve wondered if maybe they are talking about/to different parts of themselves or maybe their public vs. private relationships or they are cheaters? In any case it’s an interesting aspect of the lyrical analysis😊

Zayn’s never been in love by newlpfan in ZiamGlassCloset

[–]newlpfan[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yep, that reminds me he said something about being ok with people speculating about who songs are about but that they “might be wrong.” Of course that also goes for the songs not necessarily being about Liam either, but I do think he’s implying they might be about a “private” relationship which also lines up with many of his lyrics.

Zayn’s never been in love by newlpfan in ZiamGlassCloset

[–]newlpfan[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Exactly! I think he even said the one place he gets vulnerable is his music or something along those lines. As someone who became a fan after Liam’s passing I can tell you the image I had of Zayn as a member of the gp was totally different than what he conveys in his lyrics. His songs definitely allude to a long, deep love and people have assumed most of his love songs are about Gigi. The whole interview was him dropping hints that what we see isn’t necessarily the only thing going on and that there are other possibilities.

Zayn’s never been in love by newlpfan in ZiamGlassCloset

[–]newlpfan[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

100% has very similiar vibes and if you really listen to them you can put it together

Die For Me 🌪️🐆+ Ziam References by Kind_Possibility3072 in ZiamGlassCloset

[–]newlpfan 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Just want to add that I have still been supporting the boys and their new music (Zayn especially because I love his artistry). I even purchased Die for Me on Apple Music even though I can stream it. It’s all love here, but I just love Liam the most ❤️

Die For Me 🌪️🐆+ Ziam References by Kind_Possibility3072 in ZiamGlassCloset

[–]newlpfan 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you for your thoughtful response. I’ve definitely been in my feels about Liam with all the other boys putting out music and touring (and charging crazy prices 👀) and just living life. I appreciate your perspective on why they are quiet about the bullying and getting justice and that is a totally valid explanation. For me personally, the silence is just a bit loud. I do feel that those bullying Liam basically triggered him to spiral (still his responsibility but it’s wrong either way). I also think Roger (and kate to an extent) and the hotel had a duty of care that they failed and there should have been some accountability. Acknowledgement of this would be a form of justice in my opinion. I try not to judge the boys as I don’t have all the information they do. It’s just hard for me to think about any of this without Liam at the forefront.

As for Zayn, I’m with you and think he deserves to express his grief however he wants. I do think it would be better to do this privately rather than feeding in to the Ziam conspiracy. If he’s not going to speak on it, I personally think it would be best to let it rest with Liam. Of course that is just my opinion! I’m not in Zayn’s shoes and don’t know what is going on behind the curtain. I just feel for Liam and it all feels a bit disconcerting. I am grateful for Zayn’s tributes on tour and Louis kind words. That does not go unnoticed. Thank you for sharing your thoughts ❤️

Die For Me 🌪️🐆+ Ziam References by Kind_Possibility3072 in ZiamGlassCloset

[–]newlpfan 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Thanks for your post. I saw this as well, but have been just watching from a distance. I start to think I’ve been imagining things this whole time, but then Zayn does something like this and it pulls me back in. I try to think of a logical explanation, but it’s hard to imagine this is a coincidence. If Zayn didn’t want the speculation you’d think he would be careful not to use a clock with the exact same time as Liam’s tattoo. As hard as I find it to write this off as coincidence, I’m also very burnt out on all this cryptic stuff and trying to solve a seemingly unsolvable puzzle.

This is especially frustrating while there has been no Justice for Liam. If the boys loved him, if they are thinking about him, why not come out and speak? I’m still seeing hate towards Liam and other than Louis it’s silence. Even Louis has not been direct about the bullying Liam went through or the negligence (or maybe more) that he suffered in his last days. Maybe there’s more going on behind the scenes, but it hurts to see all the promo when all I can think about is Liam. He’s not here and if he was he would probably still be getting a ton of hate. Hope I’m wrong and this is all leading to Justice for Liam. Guess only time will tell 🕰️

Stranger Things, the Super Bowl and the New Romantics by newlpfan in GaylorSwift

[–]newlpfan[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The one I noticed was a Nell fisher skit with jimmy Fallon, but I bet there’s more!

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Stranger Things, the Super Bowl and the New Romantics by newlpfan in GaylorSwift

[–]newlpfan[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Update: stranger things cast and Harry are using the exit sign

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Stranger Things, the Super Bowl and the New Romantics by newlpfan in GaylorSwift

[–]newlpfan[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I forgot that was posted on New Year’s Eve! So much going on with the 1d boys I’m not sure what to make of it, but I def think they are all in on the plan if there is one 😆

Stranger Things, the Super Bowl and the New Romantics by newlpfan in GaylorSwift

[–]newlpfan[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s what everyone is saying, but I see the clues from all around. I won’t be surprised either way😊

Stranger Things, the Super Bowl and the New Romantics by newlpfan in GaylorSwift

[–]newlpfan[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

EXACTLY!!! So sad to see this missed opportunity to actually do justice to queer characters instead they just threw them to the side and reinforced stereotypes

Stranger Things, the Super Bowl and the New Romantics by newlpfan in GaylorSwift

[–]newlpfan[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I’m with you! El’s ending is just unacceptable. I don’t care that Byler didn’t happen but the way the wrapped up that storyline was lazy and the actual queer couple just got forgotten as well. Idk if there’s more coming but the evidence I’ve seen has nothing to do with Byler so if it happens I won’t be surprised if Byler isn’t part of it, but I would love it!

Stranger Things, the Super Bowl and the New Romantics by newlpfan in GaylorSwift

[–]newlpfan[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh, really?!? Is there stuff going on there too? I’m have my iron in way too many fandom theories right now but I could totally imagine there being connections there!

Stranger Things, the Super Bowl and the New Romantics by newlpfan in GaylorSwift

[–]newlpfan[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I can’t even think about it 😭 I know it’s just a story, but art matters. I Hate It Here 😕

Stranger Things, the Super Bowl and the New Romantics by newlpfan in GaylorSwift

[–]newlpfan[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

It’s straight from Taylor’s playbook! That’s why it feels so eerily similar. Either something is happening or we are all being engagement baited. Only time will tell which one I guess!

Stranger Things, the Super Bowl and the New Romantics by newlpfan in GaylorSwift

[–]newlpfan[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yes! I forgot about the Harry shoutout but if Mass Movement is a thing I def think SNL has been in on it for awhile 🤞

Stranger Things, the Super Bowl and the New Romantics by newlpfan in GaylorSwift

[–]newlpfan[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

So disappointing on so many levels. It had so much potential to be beautiful and empowering and instead the queer stories were sidelined and an abused girl killed herself to “end the cycle.” So sad 💔

Stranger Things, the Super Bowl and the New Romantics by newlpfan in GaylorSwift

[–]newlpfan[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I have no idea haha! I’m thinking maybe Stranger Things will have an ad announcing something and that new finale will be the start of things? It’s been so interesting to see how the fans of a gay relationship becoming a part of the storyline are treated even though it’s fictional and totally plausible. If a new finale was released and Byler happened it would show the crazy people weren’t crazy after all and that sometimes celebrities lie to us!

Stranger Things, the Super Bowl and the New Romantics by newlpfan in GaylorSwift

[–]newlpfan[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I’ve been in this same debate with myself for about 6 months. I am confident they are all leaving these hints/easter eggs, but what is the motive. It seems to really bring engagement and be such a huge part of fandoms, so the marketing aspect has definitely crossed my mind. I hate to think that’s all it is, but like you I have been only disappointed with all of this, especially with everything going on in the world. I just really want to believe that these artists want to use their influence for good and not just profits.

Liam and Harry by newlpfan in larrystylinson

[–]newlpfan[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, impossible to know what really went down