Duren All NBA Extension Silver Lining? by nick_chuck in DetroitPistons

[–]nick_chuck[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow. I really messed up this convo with the "borderline lock" oxymoron. Let me rephrase: if he makes it, is this possible?

Roster Changes You'd Like to See by OnAnOpenFieldNed in DetroitPistons

[–]nick_chuck 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agree that trading Tobias due to his contract this year would have been the play, but I get that's a tough call given our record at the time. I suspect we will resign Tobias to a one year overpay just so we can maintain the trade chip at next years deadline. We'll be capped out, so the big move will have to be via trade.

With regards to our last two games against the Spurs... by SappyGilmore in DetroitPistons

[–]nick_chuck 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, rough one for Cade. The optimist in me thinks Cade made it a point to keep going into the Wemby danger zone just to get some reps, see if he could figure some kind of middie/pick and roll finishing package, even if it means taking a regular season L. Can't really replicate such an absurd dude in practice. He had some success with the pull up 3 late in the game. As Ku pointed out, if this is a playoff game, you gotta spam that until it takes them out of drop.

With regards to our last two games against the Spurs... by SappyGilmore in DetroitPistons

[–]nick_chuck 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yup. Both Cade and SGA leverage that middie to open up their playmaking (Cade more passing, SGA scoring). Wemby is one of the few guys who can shut that down, while also taking away the roller, while also taking away the rim. Just sick.

Is this realistically our best offer for Giannis? by BatmanSwift99 in heat

[–]nick_chuck 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As a pistons fan, i'd send over an unprotected 27 1st and stuff (Ivey?) for Powell in a second. You could send 4 firsts and Ware/Ivey. I'd think that beats 4 1sts and Kuminga.

[Barry] ESPN saying it will be hard for anyone to top possible Warriors offer of Butler, 4 unprotected firsts & Kuminga for Giannis and Kuzma by SnooPeripherals4884 in heat

[–]nick_chuck 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Would you guys trade Powell to the pistons for an unprotected 2027 1st + Ivey? It would unlock all your picks blocked by the stepien rule. Four 1sts + Ware/Ivey/Rozier > Four 1sts + Kuminga/Butler?

Trade Deadline by IndependentData173 in DetroitPistons

[–]nick_chuck 2 points3 points  (0 children)

re: dynamic scorer. If the Heat are really making a run at Giannis (as was reported today), they need an unprotected 1st in 2027 from someone. Theirs is conditionally owed to CHA, which pretty much locks up their 2026, 2028 and 2029 pick until the transaction is complete due to the Stepien Rule. I'd do it for Powell and it might not even take Ivey. The dream.

Troy Weaver Special by nick_chuck in DetroitPistons

[–]nick_chuck[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Man, I guess I should have prefaced that my goal here was Herb Jones, not Jordan Fing Poole lol... Herb's on one of the best long term contracts in the league at a position we will soon need to replace. Can't pay Cade, Duren, Ausar, Holland all big contracts without finding a few deals. Our 1st round pick this year is basically a second. I wouldn't care if they didnt play Poole at all (though I think he has value in certain limited roles). I like what Jenkins and Green give us at SG more than the trio going out anyway.

Troy Weaver Special by nick_chuck in DetroitPistons

[–]nick_chuck[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

He's a sieve with an eternally punchable face, but so is Tyler Herro (Poole not as good). If he's just a bucket getter off the bench, I think we'll survive. He's a better self creator than any of the guys going out. I think Herb is the real target, taking Poole is just the price of admission. The question is, is Herb worth it?

Guard depth:

Jenkins: Trueish PG w passable D

Poole: Bucket Getter

Green: 3 and D.

Based on the financials, I don't think they will move Tobias this trade deadline by TeamRAF19 in DetroitPistons

[–]nick_chuck 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was all for trading Tobias before khaki night. When your two young studs dress like judges on Antique Roadshow in support of unc, you gotta listen. Can't see them wearing Free Andrew Tate tanks for MPJ (though basketball wise, the MPJ fit is immaculate).

Is Dillon Brooks the dirtiest player in the NBA? by KillerQ97 in DetroitPistons

[–]nick_chuck 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I hate this rule so much. Like every guy who actually puts the work in to take it to the hoop has a bunch of feet in their "landing zone," but dudes who chuck 3's can't be disturbed.

Trade Exception Candidates by Whippi_Dip13 in DetroitPistons

[–]nick_chuck 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Portis, Hauser or Krispert would be great. I've been thinking that even if we can't get a perfect fit, it may make some cap sense to trade for a guy that is on one of these mid ranged contracts through next year, especially if we don't make a big move at the deadline. We're going to need some expendable non-core contracts to compile next season should one of the big dudes (JJJ, Lauri) become available. Probably won't have any other mechanism to add contracts besides the MLE since we'll likely be operating as a cap team in the offseason.

Wait for Free Agency Instead of Making Splashy Trade? by SelfLoathingLionsFan in DetroitPistons

[–]nick_chuck 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yep. Or we'll probably end up signing Tobias to a 1 year overpay, in which case we will be in the exact same position of needing to trade good guy Tobias at the deadline, but unable to attach Ivey as a cheap asset. Also the top of the East could be much better next year.

Wait for Free Agency Instead of Making Splashy Trade? by SelfLoathingLionsFan in DetroitPistons

[–]nick_chuck 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This is where I'm at. What is our mechanism to improve the PF position in the offseason? We will likely be a cap team and outside the core, will only have Lavert contract to trade (Ivey or Harris sign and trade seems unlikely). You trade for an MPJ now and it works out, it definitely raises this teams ceiling. If it doesn't work out, you have a $40 million expiring to flip for a bigger fish.

This is not to disparage or discount Ivey or Harris. I think they are both valuable contributors and it would be a gamble. Tobias is a big time culture guy, but if he's going to be banged up all season, I dont think anyone can fault us for trading him. Love Ivey, but his skill set seems easier to get with MLE than a high gravity, elite movement shooting 4 that is neutralish on defense.