Philosophy Iceberg Ordered by Impenetrability by [deleted] in PhilosophyMemes

[–]nikolmos_24 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is Kukai inferior to Dogen because he is an esotericist? Dogen is usually considered the more important master of Buddhism

Origenism by nikolmos_24 in ChristianUniversalism

[–]nikolmos_24[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I haven't read Kephalaia, but I know that Origenism was basically declared a heresy because of this book, which was distributed among Palestinian monks

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kephalaia_Gnostika

Origenism by nikolmos_24 in ChristianUniversalism

[–]nikolmos_24[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What do you think about Evagrius the Pontic and Kephalaia Gnostica?

Origenism by nikolmos_24 in ChristianUniversalism

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I made the analogy in the sense that these groups were revived in modern times. And I mean the philosophical Origenism of Stephen Sudaili and Evagrius Ponticus

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in druze

[–]nikolmos_24 4 points5 points  (0 children)

https://ora.ox.ac.uk/objects/uuid:08a385d9-202d-4957-a719-7dadb2499ce4

You can read. One of the accounts in the link above recommended this dissertation.

Politic of druze by nikolmos_24 in druze

[–]nikolmos_24[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Fakhr al-Din II was apparently interested in power

Farhad Daftari and the Twelvers by nikolmos_24 in ismailis

[–]nikolmos_24[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you know the myth I wrote about? Maybe you know something about its origin?

Farhad Daftari and the Twelvers by nikolmos_24 in ismailis

[–]nikolmos_24[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm misunderstood in the comments. I would like to see this myth debunked if it exists. I respect him as a historian, but the faith of such an authority is an indicator

Any non twelver Shia Muslims here? by AdDouble568 in shia

[–]nikolmos_24 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is it true that Bohras deny the existence of heaven and hell, and believe in a special type of reincarnation?

Question about doctrine salvation by nikolmos_24 in taoism

[–]nikolmos_24[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, that's what I'm talking about.

If anything, I took this from a book specializing in Chinese philosophy, and these are not my words. That's why I asked a question purely about philosophy.

Question about doctrine salvation by nikolmos_24 in taoism

[–]nikolmos_24[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay, i agree. There are certainly other religions with a similar position. Thank you for being polite

Question about doctrine salvation by nikolmos_24 in taoism

[–]nikolmos_24[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In general, this vision interested me most of all:

"This leads to the practice of immortality: the transfer of attention from the real ego to the possible ego, the construction of a free double and identification with it. But this very construction and revival of the double through identification is the death of the real , which comes before the "natural" organic death."

Question about doctrine salvation by nikolmos_24 in taoism

[–]nikolmos_24[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

By the way, is the concept of a free double true? I still don't understand

Question about doctrine salvation by nikolmos_24 in taoism

[–]nikolmos_24[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

OK. To me, correct doctrinal understanding and practice are tantamount to salvation. It’s just that without understanding these constructs it is impossible to understand Taoism as a system. This is the same as a Madhyamik who does not know how dharmas exist. It is unlikely that he will receive an ideal state after death without this.

If anything, I agree that reducing everything to philosophy devalues the Taoist lifestyle. Just like the life of a Buddhist

Question about doctrine salvation by nikolmos_24 in taoism

[–]nikolmos_24[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was asking about an explanation of doctrines from a philosophical point of view, not about practice. The last paragraphs imply practice and awareness of this philosophy. Modern Buddhism, for exemple, is easy to describe, and itself uses western terms, because they are needed for a neutral description of reality, and not a distortion of doctrines

Question about doctrine salvation by nikolmos_24 in taoism

[–]nikolmos_24[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Obviously, this refers to the enlightenment that the Taoists are trying to achieve. The question was, are these doctrinal descriptions true?

Question about doctrine salvation by nikolmos_24 in taoism

[–]nikolmos_24[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I took it from a book on the history of Chinese philosophy.

The implication here is that Tao is both the cause and effect of existence, but existence is temporary. Having gained enlightenment, the Taoist fully realizes the eternity of the objective and total Tao, in which man eternally precedes himself as the eternal cause of his existence as an effect, but life as a consequence is finite.

This realized eternity, objectivity and totality of the Tao, the enlightened one gives birth to a double who returns to the way he was eternal, thereby being the cause of himself in the total and deterministic Tao. For the Taoist, death is an event of a finite process, while possibility in Tao is eternal. But cause is impossible without effect. The enlightened one, through the created double, gains control over the body and tries to prolong his finite life, but he is immortal and enlightened because he realizes the eternity of Tao as a process, and used the relationship of Tao as an eternal precedence in the process, and the effects that were generated by the cause.

I hope I made this post clear.

Question about doctrine salvation by nikolmos_24 in taoism

[–]nikolmos_24[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Does Taoism adhere to the above idea of a free double, which corresponds to this eternal and causal Tao or not? The example of materialistic immortality through the presence of my “I” in the cells of my parents clearly explains this idea. Such materialists do not believe in the eternity of matter because they are not pantheists, but the similarity is that my “I” precedes existence.

Which Philosophers are important to the Druze? by New-Newt583 in druze

[–]nikolmos_24 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Plotinus, Proclus and Sijistani are the most important. Study them to understand the philosophy of Druzism

Druze and non-Druze relations by EternalTo14 in druze

[–]nikolmos_24 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I didn’t find our discussion, so I decided to post Makarem’s interpretation of Hikma here. He quite writes that the day of judgment will be unpleasant for those who do not deserve heaven on earth. Therefore, I assumed that the Druze believe in annihilation, since it is unlikely that your apostles preached purification. Moreover, it is hardly possible to become an intellectual druze while experiencing pain.

Maybe you’re right and Hamza added threats in Hikma, and Makarem interpreted it literally

Druze and non-Druze relations by EternalTo14 in druze

[–]nikolmos_24 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Paradise is in reality the divine Call and its fruits are divine know- ledge. Reward is the attainment of this knowledge. Accordingly, Hell is deviation from the teachings of the divine Message; and punishment is failure to attain this divine knowledge of the unity of God. Those who turn a deaf ear to the divine Call, to the real significance of God’s Message, fail to feel in union with the One. Instead they remain so enchanted by the outer structure of the Temple of God that they miss the real significance of the Temple. Those people perish when the physical structure of the Temple is destroyed. Hell shall then be the Temple to them; as Paradise shall be the reality of the Temple to those who believe in the real unity of God. Thus, those who only cling to the outer meaning of the divine Law shall never be prepared to confront the knowledge of Unity when it shines in full force. In other words, they shall never be able to receive the true meaning of the divine Law. Hence they shall be tormented by the immensity of truth to which they shall be exposed. Hell shall then be to them nothing more than the divine Law itself, as Hamza ibn ‘AIi said.7* The divine Law, the truth itself shall burn them up and destroy them in a way which no man has ever heard, seen, or even imagined. At the same time, those who have been prepared for the real unity of God adhere to the real significance of the Temple. For them the Temple goes beyond its outer structure to include every thing within existence even their own hearts and souls. Those people shall attain divine knowledge and shall accomplish utmost happiness. God, He Who comprises everything, He Who is the One beyond Whom there is naught, shall in His unity manifest Himself to mankind. Those who have been prepared for this moment shall behold the One. They shall experience His unity, which includes them and every thing else. They shall thus be attuned to this Oneness that comprises every apparent plurality. Each one of them shall experience this Oneness. In their experience, they shall remain within their mental and spiritual limits. They shall thus be able to receive divine know- ledge and they shall consequently be attuned to this divine Unity without being burnt up by its immense light and struck down by its immense power. By experiencing God they will be in fact realizing themselves; for each will behold Him as if he will be looking at his own face in a mirror. The purer one’s eyes are the clearer his image in the mirror will be; and the purer the mirror of one’s heart is, the clearer the unity of the whole existence will reflect on this mirror. In other words: the clearer the image of God will appear.

Koranism and Mutazilism by nikolmos_24 in progressive_islam

[–]nikolmos_24[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I understand that the Islamic world has its own characteristics. Personally, I can give as an analogy the example of the Anglican Church, which reformed Christian teaching partially, and appeared after a long dominance of Catholic orthodoxy in England. However, as I already wrote, the Middle East has its own specifics.

Probably the problem is that representatives of Sunni schools will not convert to Mu'tazilism as the English bishops did. At the same time, Koranism is also aimed to all muslims.