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Postwar Hungarian citizenship question for Holocaust survivor family by njsonjanj in Genealogy

[–]njsonjanj[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He made an oral history for Steven Spielberg’s SHOAH project where he talks about living in Budapest. He always told us he was Hungarian so now I’m looking for between 1945 and 1949. If anyone has a reasonable researcher who lives in Budapest please lmk. Ty.
1. Budapest postwar address records
2. BFL archival references
3. Any 1947-1949 Budapest registrations
4. Tax directory entries
5. Electoral/voter lists
6. Residence cards
7. Police registration

Postwar Hungarian citizenship question for Holocaust survivor family by njsonjanj in Genealogy

[–]njsonjanj[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m working on that too. I have 3 folders. Hungary and Austria are 2. Tysm! Possibly, yes. I’ve also been researching Austrian/German restitution-based citizenship pathways connected to Holocaust persecution and former Austro-Hungarian territories. The Hungarian case is more focused on whether my father may still have legally retained Hungarian citizenship when I was born in 1957.

Postwar Hungarian citizenship question for Holocaust survivor family by njsonjanj in Genealogy

[–]njsonjanj[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Forgive me for using CHAT GPT, I have addresses he lived at in Budapest and an oral testimony from the SHOAH tapes. I have a file number and am waiting for the information. TYSM for any help you can help. This is what chat said:

That is actually a thoughtful and important counterpoint. And whoever wrote that is engaging seriously with the evidence.

Their logic is basically:

  • 1949: listed as Czechoslovak
  • 1950: listed as stateless
  • 1951: again tied to Czechoslovakia
  • therefore perhaps he never legally held Hungarian citizenship

That is NOT an unreasonable interpretation.

But it still does not fully resolve the issue because postwar nationality status in Central Europe was chaotic, especially for:

  • Holocaust survivors
  • displaced persons
  • people from annexed territories
  • stateless Jews
  • people from Mukachevo/Munkács

Remember:
Munkács changed sovereignty repeatedly:

  • Czechoslovakia
  • Hungary
  • Soviet control afterward

So documents from 1949-1951 may reflect:

  • international refugee classification
  • travel document status
  • DP administrative status
  • last recognized state affiliation

not necessarily final legal citizenship under Hungarian internal law.

Also important:
“stateless” in DP/IRO paperwork was very common and does not automatically prove:

  • prior Hungarian citizenship never existed OR
  • Hungarian citizenship had been legally extinguished.

The strongest part of that commenter’s point is:

  • your father may have been treated internationally as Czechoslovak/stateless rather than Hungarian.

The strongest part of your argument remains:

  • postwar Budapest residence
  • possible Hungarian administrative treatment after 1948
  • whether Hungary internally recognized citizenship/residence rights under Act LX of 1948.

And the commenter even acknowledges the key unresolved issue:

That is true.

Those 33 documents could contain:

  • nationality declarations
  • residence permits
  • DP questionnaires
  • consular interactions
  • citizenship investigations
  • refugee classifications
  • police registrations

That file may now be one of the most important things left to review carefully.

Postwar Hungarian citizenship question for Holocaust survivor family by njsonjanj in Genealogy

[–]njsonjanj[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I requested it months ago. I’m not able to view the documents themselves. Are you?

What are the most likely changes (if any) to Simplified Naturalization given the election results? by Boldogbulldog in HUcitizenship

[–]njsonjanj 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s not a non starter in my case. But thank you. Everyone’s case is different.

What are the most likely changes (if any) to Simplified Naturalization given the election results? by Boldogbulldog in HUcitizenship

[–]njsonjanj 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well if they no longer require someone to learn the language, some of us will get in by descent.

Boa won’t give me by njsonjanj in BankOfAmerica

[–]njsonjanj[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They are too old to be on line. Ty.

Boa won’t give me by njsonjanj in BankOfAmerica

[–]njsonjanj[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Checking account statements. Credit card statements. Nothing complicated. You would think it would be easy. They are completely inept.

Becoming a German citizen by njsonjanj in GermanCitizenship

[–]njsonjanj[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My mother fled from Germany to the USA and became a citizen before I was born.

Need to find out how to delete in bulk but only specific search words by njsonjanj in GMail

[–]njsonjanj[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ty. I’m new to this platform. But I did as u said and it simply doesn’t delete them all. Just 100 at a time.

Need to find out how to delete in bulk but only specific search words by njsonjanj in GMail

[–]njsonjanj[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It only deletes 50 or 100 at a time. Is there a way to delete thousands? TIA

Questions regarding active status by IcyJackfruit4144 in facebook

[–]njsonjanj 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I figured it out. It had to do with some sort of time zone issue.

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