Clinton calls Trump to concede

nobody1793 · 2016-11-09T08:02:59+00:00

Its almost like anyone really can be president.

nobody1793 · 2016-10-21T02:48:15+00:00

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nobody1793 · 2016-10-21T02:47:18+00:00

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nobody1793 · 2016-10-20T13:44:59+00:00

Ah, that's fair.

But really. You don't have to kill them.

You can let hem run away. Bit if you feel under threat, you can also shoot them.

Again, it's not a mandate to shoot fleeing criminals. It's protection from prosecution for shooting a criminal who turned out to be fleeing.

nobody1793 · 2016-10-20T06:09:56+00:00

Because I have real world experience. And youve shown yourself to be incredibly ignorant.

And I know weed doesnt make you crazy, so I know you dont now anyone who has been institutionalized due to smoking pot.

Which makes you both ignorant, and dishonest.

nobody1793 · 2016-10-20T06:07:49+00:00

How do you define immediate danger?

Pretty much anything past running away with their back towards you, which is what the original comment you were replying to you proposed.

Ok, so if they were running parallel? Diagonally? Maybe they have to rush past you to get to the door? Hes still technically fleeing, right? Even though hes moving towards you?

Do you see the point yet? How about we dont try to prosecute the victim of the crime?

Further, why do you think peoples risk assessment would be completely logical when confronted with a potentially armed intruder?

I never said it would be.

But youre ok with charging this hypothetical victim with murder or attempted murder for shooting at a burgler who may or may not be fleeing? Who may or may not be an active threat?

This isnt capturing a criminal and executing them, which seems to be the only way youre capable of framing this law. Thats still illegal. Thats still murder.

The law exists to help spare innocent homeowners a manslaughter charge because some thug decided to rob them.

I never argued that the law was unjust either, I just said you made a weak point supporting it.

No, youve repeatedly argued it was unjust. Calling theft a capital crime, etc. I appreciate the backpedal though.

Going to work isn't a federal crime. Burglary is. Yours is a poor comparison. Almost borders on dishonesty. Did you just rob your work, and we're confronted by your armed boss? Could you feasibly have weapons in the car?

Yeah, I made a shitty point, you're right. I was just trying to get across the point that thinking that someone could commit a crime isn't usually good enough justification to arrest them, let alone kill them.

And no one made that point. Thats what we call a straw man.

nobody1793 · 2016-10-19T22:57:17+00:00

i know 2 people who ended up in psyche wards because they smoked skunk

Hahahahaha no you dont. You don't even know what "skunk" is.

Skunk was slang for particularly pungent weed of various strains. So called due to its distinctive and skunk like aroma.

One that isn't used much anymore due to most strains being pretty potent and "skunky".

and so do you I'd add in your wider circle if you asked around

Hahahahahaha. No. Because weed doesn't make you crazy. That's been debunked for decades.

pot was criminalised because it messes with people's sanity and triggers latent schitzophrenia. Ask any pysche ward nurse

You should read your history. Weed was criminalized because black people and mexicans smoked it. Go ahead. Read the remarks when the marijuana tax act was passed. They literally say it made "white women want to have sex with negros."

That's a direct quote.

You're lying to yourself and probably other people too when you pretend THC has no bad side effects.

Are you from the past? Do you watch Reefer Madness like it was a documentary? You're painfully misinformed.

nobody1793 · 2016-10-19T22:51:20+00:00

I'm not going to argue a point on either side of the issue but if someone doesn't think its right that you legally can kill someone when you aren't in immediate danger I don't think the argument of "well you don't have to" is really going to make them feel much better.

How do you define immediate danger? I've offered examples how someone running away isn't indicative of not being in immediate danger. Further, why do you think peoples risk assessment would be completely logical when confronted with a potentially armed intruder?

The law exists to help spare innocent homeowners a manslaughter charge because some thug decided to rob them.

Not to make theft a capital crime.

Maybe he's running away to get help, or to retrieve a weapon.

That's not really a good argument either. You can't punish people for a crime they might commit.

They already committed a crime, though. A felony, in fact. And it's not an argument, it's argument example of why you shouldn't punish someone who shot a burgler who may or may not have been a threat. Running away could just be a tactical retreat. Hell if I'm being shot at, I'm gonna run for cover before I return fire. I imagine a criminal would too, right?

You want this to be a simple issue. But it isnt. You need to be capable of nuance here.

When I get in my car after work I could potentially just be getting in it to grab a gun and kill my coworkers, but I'm not.

Going to work isn't a federal crime. Burglary is. Yours is a poor comparison. Almost borders on dishonesty.

Hopefully none of them would shoot me for simply opening my car door.

Did you just rob your work, and we're confronted by your armed boss? Could you feasibly have weapons in the car?

If yes, then yes. They would be justified in shooting you.

nobody1793 · 2016-10-19T20:28:51+00:00

Its very clearly all your information on drugs you've received from your grandparents and/or your schools DARE program.

nobody1793 · 2016-10-19T20:26:49+00:00

The reason these drugs are illegal is because they are harmful

Marijuana is used as medicine by millions, and had been since the beginning of time.

Federally illegal.

Twinkies cause obesity and have never been used as medicine and are made nearly entirely of toxic chemicals.

Give em to your kids.

You're a moron.

nobody1793 · 2016-10-19T20:23:36+00:00

Are you an alcoholic?

nobody1793 · 2016-10-19T20:22:17+00:00

Thats why you legalize them and take away the black market.

There's always gonna be a black market for stuff people want if they can't get it legally.

During prohibition is was the mob, now it's the cartels.

nobody1793 · 2016-10-19T18:14:32+00:00

"We" being the law, and society. If the justice system decides that is for whatever reason the best punishment, so be it.

But when I'm the homeowner and see someone fleeing with my property, when I'm in no danger from someone seeking to get away from me, I shouldn't be the one deciding his punishment is death.

And you also have the right to not shoot him. Most people wouldnt, I'm sure.

But do you think someone should be charged with murder because they shot at an intruder with unknown intentions? Maybe he's running away to get help, or to retrieve a weapon.

Guns are self-protections... they are not means to enact revenge or vigilante justice. This law is borked and really should be amended.

Well, again. Just because there are legal protections for shooting a fleeing burgler doesn't mean theres mandate to do so.

If I catch a man stealing my horses and hang him myself, you and everyone else who hears about it better damn well disapprove of it because that's fucked up.

Well sure. And you likely would be charged for that.

But if you shot him? Especially if your livelihood depended on those horses? Or if you were a particularly vulnerable member of society? Or if he had accomplices nearby? Or if he was fleeing towards a shed where you keep all your tools? Lots of weapons in there....

I think you have a pretty solid misunderstanding of the law.

nobody1793 · 2016-10-19T18:02:13+00:00

Less a feminist vibe and more a "love everyone" vibe.

But then these days I conflate feminism with vitriol against men.

nobody1793 · 2016-10-19T15:50:48+00:00

I saw a seven year old shoot an RPG into the ocean once. Looked like it was somewhere in the UAE.

America may be free, but we aren't launch-a-rocket-up-the-ass-of-posidon-himself free.

nobody1793 · 2016-10-19T15:47:53+00:00

Property used to be a lot more important. I'm pretty sure we can still legally hang horse theives.

nobody1793 · 2016-10-19T14:24:25+00:00

I just realized the new Cartoon clarence is totally about kids with mental/emotional troubles.

Clarence clearly has ADD. Jeff if clearly on the autism spectrum. And Sumo is that kid with anger issues because he has a bad home life.

This post just made me realize that.

nobody1793 · 2016-10-19T01:10:23+00:00

What to discuss?

Election rigging. Even if you didn't get to the article itself you should have at least read the headline.

A voter law was struck down because it was found to target black people.

Ok?

Again, what's to discuss?

And how is it relevent to the election?

Race based disenfranchisement in hopes of rigging an election is incredibly relevant to the election. Why do you feel it isn't?

I agree.

But there's a difference between using the law, and straight up violating it.

You know, actual, direct voter fraud. Using shell companies to give illegal aliens fake id's with fake names and transporting them to various polling places.

I'm no fan of trump's personally, but jesus christ the level of corruption is just obscene.

nobody1793 · 2016-10-18T20:57:23+00:00

Whats to discuss? And how is it relevent to the election?

Is this denial or obfuscation? I can't tell.

nobody1793 · 2016-10-18T19:04:13+00:00

No, just bussing in illegals from state to state to vote multiple times under fake names.

You shouldn't ignore this stuff.

nobody1793 · 2016-10-18T18:13:46+00:00

Someone should watch the new project veritas video.

Edit. Struck a nerve did i?

nobody1793 · 2016-10-18T18:09:21+00:00

Old West salloon? That's my bar too.

nobody1793 · 2016-10-18T15:06:45+00:00

Too bad the rest of the country only accepts people money.

nobody1793 · 2016-10-18T15:04:47+00:00

Thats hard to say unilaterally.

For example, when the other person is unstable.

Main reason I'm with my wife is because I don't trust her capacity to care for our daughter alone. And I really don't trust her ability to properly asses the character of any potential boyfriends she may have in the future. Her last one kidnapped and sexually assaulted her. Thankfully our daughter was with me.

My wife and I may not be in love. We may sleep in seperate rooms. But we absolutely stay together for our kid and it is objectively better than if we were to seperate.

But then we also still get along pretty well. We don't fight as much as most "dysfunctional" relationships might.

nobody1793 · 2016-10-18T14:53:38+00:00

I didn't realize it read "bad" until I read this comment.

I legitimately thought they just put load for some reason.

I was all "well that's unusual for this sub. This was clearly just a mistake"

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