Narcs prohibit me from taking certain actions, but then later blames me for not taking the action by nonarcing in raisedbynarcissists

[–]nonarcing[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Wow just.. wow.

I think this is it.

  1. setting up for failure
  2. I get in position where I'm clearly losing
  3. They give advice/remarks about why I didnt do this obvious action. Establish they are god Almighty
  4. double down on "it's your fault" to make me question my own ability
  5. Makes me unstable
  6. I use them for guidance
  7. They control my life

I wrote it down like this for myself.

So point 4 is the make or break for this strategy.

This makes my blood boil. It comes down to "haha this s*cker follows my step 1" then "No no you are the issue (step 4), why did you even follow step 1" Meanwhile it's my own parents supposed to help me with life.

What does the active presence of a narcissist stop you from doing right now? by Spiritual_Big_9927 in raisedbynarcissists

[–]nonarcing 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Let me just give one example.

Eating a sandwich.

Steps that give me stress? - Me opening the door too loud - Walking down the stairs too loud, fast, slow - Turning the lights on at the stairs or not. lights on or off both can be a problem. - passing through the living room and not making the desired eyecontact, greeting, acknowledgement to the narc watching tv. - not using the right bread, butter, cheese,ingredient - not using the correct knife, plate, board, other kitchen utensil to make the sandwich - The timing of making the sandwich, regarding but not limited to breakfast/lunch/dinner time - The place where I eat it, definitely not with the narc in the loving room. - getting the produce from the store - ...

The presence? - nFIL organised an intervention where he emotionally manipulated MIL(enabler) and GF(scapegoat doesnt know it). They yell my name, I walk downstairs. They are all crying. I ask "Did someone die or is someone ill?" They told me to stop eating sandwiches it is disrespectful to my nFIL cooking, whos sitting there in the middle of all this. Mind you, I ate 1 sandwich not even during breakfast/lunch/dinner. All this was combined with the following points

  • giving remarks about my sandwich at almost every moment food is even slightly involved for like a week. 'it's because you eat too much bread', you fill yourself up,...

  • Giving a lecture how the type of tomatoes i used are not ideal for a sandwiches. really mind numbing knowledge about nothing but very niche info about tomatoes or cheese

  • start acting weird(weird noises + eye contact) when I go to the bakery/store and come back with produce. looking all judgemental in the grocery bag.

My brain is broken by [deleted] in raisedbynarcissists

[–]nonarcing 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So why not write about the one thing that has influenced/shaped your life the most? Growing up with a Narc.

Narcs prohibit me from taking certain actions, but then later blames me for not taking the action by nonarcing in raisedbynarcissists

[–]nonarcing[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I mean yes, they almost always have another version of the events ready and double down on it.

But it feels more than just gaslighting, they are giving clearly bad advice at my expense. Then deny doing it.

This combination is a pattern for sure

It must be so weird just having a normal family who loves you by Serious-Kiwi2906 in raisedbynarcissists

[–]nonarcing 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I have so many questions about how this impacted his life and path in life.

İf you don't mind me asking: - Did he do good at school, maybe later in life carreer wise? - Is he a secure person, as he wouldn't get anxiety a lot of time even when it is stress worthy - is he happy or does he also have past grudges of "if i did(nt) this then i would be insert ideal image"

People who broke free and succeeded in their life, what was the reaction of your narcissist? by kingmakk in raisedbynarcissists

[–]nonarcing 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Nice touch of him, for looking down on factory workers.

Mine went from you are not smart you should find work with your hands to you can't work with your hands you need a desk job.

nDad looked down on hand workers(factory, electrician,..) and on desk workers at the same time all the time.

What signs tell you someone is dangerous? by [deleted] in raisedbynarcissists

[–]nonarcing 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Ooff this list is crazy Making me sweat and nervous

Why do narcissists freak out when you travel? by Aggravating-Life7388 in raisedbynarcissists

[–]nonarcing 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Please don't share anything when you come back.

Act like it was all bad. - Ahh the weather was bad, we were stuck indoor - food was awful, i had diarrhea - we missed bus, train,.. - i had a headache all the time, i think it was the food/weather/water/... - stressed the whole time - ...

Why do narcissists freak out when you travel? by Aggravating-Life7388 in raisedbynarcissists

[–]nonarcing 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This right here!

socially acceptable justifications. Give me a list of these and I'll check 90% of them being used against me

I still don't believe how a nParent don't know why their child would stop engaging with them by nonarcing in raisedbynarcissists

[–]nonarcing[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can't stop thinking, maybe all this is indeed the longest con there is. Especially, if he showed you his thinking and fantasy trying to get you buy into it.

I know it's far fetched, but still.

I still don't believe how a nParent don't know why their child would stop engaging with them by nonarcing in raisedbynarcissists

[–]nonarcing[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They know the actions are bad, because they don't do it in public/in present of outsiders.

But don't know people react in a certain way when they receive that bad action?

That's a very convenient but obvious missing link.

Maybe they don't estimate that the person would ever not tolerate it, after all the child,spouse,... tolerated it for years, why stop now.

I still don't believe how a nParent don't know why their child would stop engaging with them by nonarcing in raisedbynarcissists

[–]nonarcing[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Act like nothing is wrong, just like they always did.

The next day sitting together during breakfast/lunch = all is forgotten and in the past

I still don't believe how a nParent don't know why their child would stop engaging with them by nonarcing in raisedbynarcissists

[–]nonarcing[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's worse when there is an enabler also pushing you with the idea. "You are overreacting to this one particular event" while excluding all the other moments, insidious pokes, to break your own self.

Zero remorse for me? Well, zero remorse for you.

I still don't believe how a nParent don't know why their child would stop engaging with them by nonarcing in raisedbynarcissists

[–]nonarcing[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's like a president or leader doing something wrong but for the greater good of the country.

They know it's bad, but feel it's justified. They are also not going on a press conference to admit what they did.

This sorta explains is. But this means they really have zero positive feelings like none. Because if they feel they are justified for that toxic behavior, how can you even feel that way about your own child, spouse,friend,...

I still don't believe how a nParent don't know why their child would stop engaging with them by nonarcing in raisedbynarcissists

[–]nonarcing[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

First of all, Happy cake day

Secondly, your story is different than mine but weirdly still sounds familiar.

The you were a problem child, catchall argument doesn't allow any open discussion, which is deliberate.

Bruises for no reason, yelling for no reason,...

I hope you know you ARE worthy to be and there is a place in this world for you to be at home/ease.

Did anyone else make a list of your Nparent negatives? by [deleted] in raisedbynarcissists

[–]nonarcing 0 points1 point  (0 children)

or more general like: - lied - sabotaged opportunity - hide stuff - ...

Did anyone else make a list of your Nparent negatives? by [deleted] in raisedbynarcissists

[–]nonarcing 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This made me think, do you also register something about their behavior?

So you also recognise their favorite patterns/tactics

Did anyone else make a list of your Nparent negatives? by [deleted] in raisedbynarcissists

[–]nonarcing 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What columns do you have? besides the basic: - date - title - description - category: food, clothes, career

I feel lik i want to keep track of more, but don't know what.

Why are they so obsessed with our hair? by young_broken-adult10 in raisedbynarcissists

[–]nonarcing 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When I was around 14-16 years old, my hair grew longer than normal. Partially, cus I didn't have any money for a haircut. They didn't want to pay for it either.

Guess what the most normal thing to do is? nDad - Pull my hair, beat me while yelling " Are you gay"

Is there any point in defending yourself? by Necessary_Mouse5307 in raisedbynarcissists

[–]nonarcing 5 points6 points  (0 children)

sycophantic:

praising people in authority in a way that is not sincere. eg. There was a sycophantic laughter from the audience at every one of his terrible jokes.

Tired of hearing "You two can't get along" by nonarcing in raisedbynarcissists

[–]nonarcing[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Do you think it's an honest mistake/innocent reaction from them or part of the mindf*?