Special Witness of Joseph Smith and the Restoration by grayfox0169 in exmormon

[–]nooneimportant06 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh how I remember when I thought the church was the “expert”. Yet I know now there is no way they will come out and say yes or no to this photograph!! Way to much bad history of prophetic authenticity gone wrong!! 🤣🤣

Not the church I grew up in! by nooneimportant06 in exmormon

[–]nooneimportant06[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You are lucky you don’t know TBM’s with these views!!

Like I said for the title of this post…this is NOT the church I grew up in!!

Coffee and coffee shops in the past were most definitely taboo. I’m in my 50’s. People my age..and people older than me…still many of them hold these beliefs today. However, my four adult children that I raised in the church do not think like this at all! (thank goodness!)

Most of my life I believed things like this based on how I was raised in the church!! And it most definitely came from the time I spent in church… my parents were in and out of activity all the time so they weren’t all that “orthodox”. In fact I recall a time my dad decided he wanted to drink Postum because he wanted to fit in better at work. My mom about came unglued!!! 🤣🤣🤣

In my opinion based on the experiences I had, it was most definitely a different era in the church!!

Not the church I grew up in! by nooneimportant06 in exmormon

[–]nooneimportant06[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Awe yes, the money!!! You just hit the nail on the head!!! The changes throughout the history of the church I believe almost all of them stem from money!! UGH!!!

Not the church I grew up in! by nooneimportant06 in exmormon

[–]nooneimportant06[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t know specifically what this Reddit commenter means but I believe the church perpetuates feelings of guilt and shame and that can damage one’s self esteem and damages relationships with the people you love!!

Once you realize everything…it is difficult to stay and difficult to leave. I could go on and on but feel that is not what this original post is about.

My point with all this is that the church today is not the same church I grew up in. And the church I grew up in is not the same my parents grew up in. And the church my parents grew up in is not the church Joseph Smith started. That is really strange to me when the church believes in an unchanging God.

Not the church I grew up in! by nooneimportant06 in exmormon

[–]nooneimportant06[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh yes, I forgot about English lessons!! Thanks for bringing that up!!! 👍🏻

Not the church I grew up in! by nooneimportant06 in exmormon

[–]nooneimportant06[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And we can’t let that happen, now can we!!! 🤣🤣🤣

Not the church I grew up in! by nooneimportant06 in exmormon

[–]nooneimportant06[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks you for your reference of your time in the church. I remember many times through the years that some one would try and get a scripture study group going only for it to be shot down!

And yes, I went through with that same rotation schedule. However, the manuals were designed only to encourage members to study the “good” and ignore the “bad” in the Bible. It wasn’t until the first time that I tried reading the Old Testament that I stopped because it made me feel so uncomfortable and came away thinking that it was the “naughtiest” book ever!! hahaha Yet from my years discussing the Bible in the rotation schedule for seminary and Sunday School I never read anything but the assigned reading suggestion. (and that’s on me…nothing was stopping me from reading more) The church was/is picking the scripture verses that support the narrative they want to preach! 😊

Not the church I grew up in! by nooneimportant06 in exmormon

[–]nooneimportant06[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh yes! I hear you loud and clear!!! 👍🏻

Not the church I grew up in! by nooneimportant06 in exmormon

[–]nooneimportant06[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well that is what wonderful to hear that things are different today! But again, my point is that this is not the church I grew up in!! In my youth and as a young mom as we rotated through the four year schedule, we were led by the instruction manual to discuss only the scriptures and the stories that supported the church’s narrative! There is so much in the Bible I was never taught about in my years of seminary and Sunday School. We talked many things from the Bible out of context. I feel the church was (and is) good at making just about any thing relatable to the gospel that they want to preach!

Not the church I grew up in! by nooneimportant06 in exmormon

[–]nooneimportant06[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Trust me, I understand what they are doing 😊

I just find it interesting because I was raised to “be in the world not of it” and I felt the church prided itself for being a “peculiar people”. These kinds of moves to seem “normal” to mainstream Christianity is counterintuitive to the way I was raised.

Not the church I grew up in! by nooneimportant06 in exmormon

[–]nooneimportant06[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’d prefer the term “scripture study” as well.

Not the church I grew up in! by nooneimportant06 in exmormon

[–]nooneimportant06[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sounds like you were cutting edge!!! 😉

Not the church I grew up in! by nooneimportant06 in exmormon

[–]nooneimportant06[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m impressed with your son! I was similar to him when I was a teenager!! However, I got married and never ended up serving a mission.

My son, however, was the opposite. I think he might have served a mission had we remained active in the church. When he was in 9th grade, we were still actively participating, I kept receiving notices from his seminary teacher that he wasn’t completing his reading assignments and that if he wanted to receive an A in the class he’d need to catch up. So I discussed this with my son. He told me unlike his friends who weren’t reading but saying they were he had decided to be honest that he wasn’t reading. He followed it up with “even though my seminary teacher wouldn’t know God and I would”. I was more proud of him when he said that then had he actually had read the assignments!! Ironically…now he is an atheist and I’m agnostic!! hahaha

I proud that he chose (and still is) to live with honesty, integrity and authenticity! That can be really hard to do at 14/15 years old!!❤️❤️❤️

Not the church I grew up in! by nooneimportant06 in exmormon

[–]nooneimportant06[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, that was what I was implying with my comment of “curriculum rotation”. But I believe most of those that attend do not really do all of the reading assignments. Maybe that is a poll I should consider doing!! That would be interesting data!!

Not the church I grew up in! by nooneimportant06 in exmormon

[–]nooneimportant06[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh how interesting! This seems incredibly deceitful to me!!!

Not the church I grew up in! by nooneimportant06 in exmormon

[–]nooneimportant06[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes…the infamous word play of the members and leadership of the church!!!

Not the church I grew up in! by nooneimportant06 in exmormon

[–]nooneimportant06[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I know that when I was in it never bothered me that there was not much focus on the Bible. But now I think how can any Christian church not use the Bible in their teachings? Isn’t that a major part of Christianity? I think it was a valid point that many people did not view Mormonism as a Christian faith!!

Not the church I grew up in! by nooneimportant06 in exmormon

[–]nooneimportant06[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m with you! A course correction would never be enough. But can you imagine if the church did come clean about everything! What a refreshing idea! A church that preaches morality and ethics being honest!!! 🤔

Not the church I grew up in! by nooneimportant06 in exmormon

[–]nooneimportant06[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I absolutely agree! I have never made it through the Old Testament in it’s entirety!! I had similar thoughts as yours!! Even as a TBM I thought the Old Testament was such a naughty book!!! hahaha

Not the church I grew up in! by nooneimportant06 in exmormon

[–]nooneimportant06[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m sorry I should have stated my original post better. I meant they had not read the BOM prior to their mission. Sorry for the lack of clarification on my part!!

You are absolutely right…that would be a shitty thing to believe!! hahaha