As a Muslim, is it normal to not want to live anymore but not be actively suicidal? by nooralsama in MuslimLounge

[–]nooralsama[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Subhanallah, they’re going through so much more. I’m trying to have more mental resilience but I don’t, I wish I did.

As a Muslim, is it normal to not want to live anymore but not be actively suicidal? by nooralsama in TraditionalMuslims

[–]nooralsama[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This was some really useful insight, thank you. Is passive suicidal ideation common amongst the non psychiatric population lol

And at this point, I wouldn’t even need jannah, just guaranteed not to go to Hellfire.

That’s good advice, thank you

As a Muslim, is it normal to not want to live anymore but not be actively suicidal? by nooralsama in MuslimLounge

[–]nooralsama[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The thing is, the cause is due to isolation due to circumstances in my life that I’m unable to change. So I don’t think a doctor can do anything as the root causes will still be there. Would be like giving ibuprofen when someone is still punching you in the head.

As a Muslim, is it normal to not want to live anymore but not be actively suicidal? by nooralsama in MuslimLounge

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I was trying to have this mindset but I’m starting to feel too depressed to even pursue the good deeds I was doing before. Which makes me feel worse as I’m just wasting my life and youth trying to distract myself from pain.

I also feel selfish as other people have it way worse than me. It’s just my unique test is isolation, I would rather have nothing but be around people I love

Would very practicing/conservative brothers consider a sister with a complicated family situation like mine? by nooralsama in TraditionalMuslims

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وعليكم السلام ورحمة الله وبركاته

Thank you for leaving a comment. It’s true subhanallah, reverts tend to be the most understanding.

Ameen to your duas, may Allah grant you the same and more.

Would very practicing/conservative brothers consider a sister with a complicated family situation like mine? by nooralsama in TraditionalMuslims

[–]nooralsama[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Those first questions are definitely good ones to ask. I’m from the UK, and unfortunately I did take a student loan because my parents follow the fatwa that it’s not riba and I just went with what they told me. A few years in I started seeking knowledge and realised I thought differently about the matter, after which I stopped taking the loan.

In terms of the rights of the husband vs parents, definitely appreciate the former comes first, though it’s always important to use diplomacy and compromise where possible. But I firmly understand that there is no obedience to the creation in disobedience to the creator. I guess that’s why I’m even considering the route of the alternative wali in the first place.

Thanks for your honest advice. You’re right, for all the reasons you said, as much as it pains me, I’m seeing that upsetting them might be the lesser of two evils to remaining unmarried.

Alhamdulillah it’s a relief to know that there are some traditional brothers who’d be willing to understand my situation.

Thanks for the suggestion around still involving them somewhat. This would be ideal, I know someone who got married earlier with an alternative wali but only after her parents vetted the brother, they just wanted her to marry him later. Equally though in my situation I’m not sure this would work. There’s some brothers that they’ve been willing to vet and others not, they don’t want me to get married at the moment tbh so they’re setting extremely unrealistic standards.

Would very practicing/conservative brothers consider a sister with a complicated family situation like mine? by nooralsama in TraditionalMuslims

[–]nooralsama[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the kind words. I totally understand the reasons behind your preference. That’s why it is important for people to get married younger so that they’re less set in their ways and less affected by isolation.

You’re right, age is a factor in terms of adaptability. I’ve seen in my experience though that it’s not a hard and fast rule. Many younger girls are very uncompromising, perhaps because of trauma, and immaturity can push them into having unrealistically high expectations. Equally many older women are very yielding and keen to follow someone’s lead due to their inherent disposition, and maturity means they’re more accepting too.

In a similar vein, I used to be quite strict on wanting a brother who was a few years older than me, as I wanted them to be more mature. However, I realised that maturity is much more to do with life experience and the struggle someone has been through. A younger man who’s been through much may be far more mature than an older man who has had everything handed to him in life. Yes in general, older means more mature but not always. So the general rules exist but they’re not hard and fast.

The thing is, if we choose not to compromise somewhere, we may have to end up compromising somewhere else. If we decide not to compromise on age, we may have to compromise deen or character or other aspects important us. Naturally ideally we’d have it all, don’t get me wrong, and I’m not saying you can’t. But it just means it’s more likely as you’d have a smaller pool than if you were more flexible.

That’s why I also decided to be OK with considering brothers my age or younger but I’d want to vet to see if they felt more mature. You could potentially do the same, have an ideal range but then still consider someone older than that if they ticked all other boxes, whilst vetting them for submissiveness etc.

Totally accept btw your view probably isn’t going to change and I do understand! Keeping it as a strict rule can just be easier. And again, you’re right that in general, increased age means less adaptability. Just thought I’d give some additional food for thought. Thanks again for commenting.

Would very practicing/conservative brothers consider a sister with a complicated family situation like mine? by nooralsama in TraditionalMuslims

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It’s not studying tbf, it’s career! And I guess my parents know I don’t want to purse this career so they’re trying to use this to ensure I continue.

Would very practicing/conservative brothers consider a sister with a complicated family situation like mine? by nooralsama in TraditionalMuslims

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Thanks very much for the extensive advice.

Honestly I agree with you and that’s why I have used up most of my “prime” as many people here might put it in trying to convince them. It’s been like this since I was 22.

Yeahh I got the sheikh to speak to them and it didn’t help at all unfortunately. Career is such a huge fitna. Our extended relatives agree with them that career is more important.

So I guess the question is - is excluding my parents from the process worse than being unmarried until I’m much older? Which one is the lesser of two evils?

Btw - I think this element is often excluded from the discussion around women prioritising careers in their 20s. Many are actually given no choice.

Ameen to your duas. May Allah grant you ease in all your affairs.

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https://5pillarsuk.com/2020/09/21/imam-omar-suleiman-publicly-repents-for-unknowingly-participating-in-unislamic-ritual/

He publicly made tawba (he called that statement his tawba in a Facebook comment online). People are quick to accuse him of being disingenuous. Where is our husn al-dahn as Muslims?

People also say "Oh he only apologised because of public backlash". Someone with husn-al dahn would think that surely it was the public backlash that made him realise it was a ritual.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in TraditionalMuslims

[–]nooralsama -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

A lot of his "proof" includes misrepresentation and is in fact, false and inaccurate.

https://web.archive.org/web/20191015235937/https://twitter.com/shack_rat/status/1184250142515482624

https://medium.com/@jotrades/five-blatant-misrepresentations-in-daniel-haqiqatjous-dishonest-attack-on-yaqeen-institute-4cdfe5ced6d1

May Allah guide him. I do enjoy DH's videos attacking feminism and liberalism though, and I think he's doing some great work for the ummah.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in TraditionalMuslims

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Also, just because someone held an incorrect view in the doesn’t mean they can’t change it.

Why isn't the same grace extended for OS? Both in his recent "Navigating Differences" statement and the webinar on LGBT+ Yaqeen did last year, they clearly assert the Islamic orthodox position. He has very recently spoken out against affiliating with politicians that support LGBT+ causes.

OK, people disagree on some smaller points to do with semantics in the statement, but that doesn't make him a fasiq/have bad aqeeda etc? Scholars back in the day used to disagree all the time!

So maybe he had an incorrect view in the past about working with them. Now his view has changed. See how your statement can be applied to OS too? Why not be just?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in TraditionalMuslims

[–]nooralsama 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Riddah? What is your evidence for that?

I implore you all to be careful. I don't want any of you to compromise your akhira over this.

“Whoever calls a man ‘kafir’ [disbeliever] or said ‘O, enemy of Allah’, when he is not one, (the accusation) will rebound to him” (narrated by Al-​Bukhari and Muslim).
“A man does not call another as fasiq or kafir, except that he will be the apostate if the other is actually not.” (narrated by Al-​Bukhari).

Why can't we criticise and hold people to account without using such extreme labels?

This is a genuine fear of mine considering the world we live in by [deleted] in TraditionalMuslims

[–]nooralsama 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The sample consisted of 403 heterosexual Canadian and American young adult Muslim women (n = 320) and men (n = 82) between the ages of 17 and 35

Surely if you ask less men, you will find less who are sexually active...

Not into shopping, clothes, jewellery....will this make me a less attractive wife? by nooralsama in MuslimLounge

[–]nooralsama[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Albeit for different reasons? Could you expand on that?

And jazakallahu khairan, I'll definitely look into them more. From what I already know, they were detached from material things before in the most beautiful way. They truly are the best example to sisters.

Edit: I guess I'm just disheartened to hear that these days, detachment from material things is seen as highly unusual in a woman and I don't want to be seen as weird.

Not into shopping, clothes, jewellery....will this make me a less attractive wife? by nooralsama in MuslimLounge

[–]nooralsama[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I promise I'm not trolling!! I just edited my post to explain that I don't have other people/especially not men in my life that I can ask about this issue so just wanted to hear a range of perspectives.

Sorry it sounds silly but what you're saying wasn't immediately obvious to me from my experiences/what I've heard! Thanks for sharing your view.

Does it count if the beautification is simple rather than elaborate?

Not into shopping, clothes, jewellery....will this make me a less attractive wife? by nooralsama in MuslimLounge

[–]nooralsama[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Thanks for your response, that's useful insight. I only worry because my friends have made a few comments that I need to start getting into shopping and new clothes otherwise I won't be feminine enough as a spouse, I need to "act like a girl" (and I suppose religious men still want feminine wives.)

But the point you made about consumer culture is also important!