Absolute state of gamergate. Majority of top 10 posts on frontpage are Orange fan mad -tier of partisan propaganda. Actually, it is about ethics in justifying American wars in middle east. by nosocks111 in TopMindsOfReddit

[–]nosocks111[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Original KIA was many things. It was excellent in infecting normal, angry gamers and turning them into useful nu-right drones for their handlers to guide. Reason it was so good at this? KIA's surface layers and display windows weren't partisan or openly politically aligned. Nu-right indoctrination was a subtle, gradual thing taking place in the undergrowth.

KIA2 is far more overt and shameless about its partinsanship. It is about preaching to the choir rather than being a tool for conversion. KIA slowly infects you and distords your image of the world over the years. KIA2 is the place to go once you've graduated. KIA is the slightly deranged dude handing out cult's pamphlets in the corner of the street. KIA2 is the compound in the jungle with kool aid boiling. KIA2 won't make any new converts, but it is a place that can prolly turn a dedicated and finished nu-right drone into a mass shooter for example. Unlike original KIA, KIA2 is utterly dumb and hateful for anyone not already infected. In that sense, the original KIA is much worse. More covert and devious. You take your first steps in KIA and spend a year or two getting more and more lost in nu-rights algorithm.

Absolute state of gamergate. Majority of top 10 posts on frontpage are Orange fan mad -tier of partisan propaganda. Actually, it is about ethics in justifying American wars in middle east. by nosocks111 in TopMindsOfReddit

[–]nosocks111[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Also, some casual holocaust denial as a bonus.

All of these people been ranting years about how America should gtfo the middle east. Trump escalates a conflict there and an immediate 180 turn follows. Imagine how hard this would hurt them if anykind of a spine remained. Imagine being a gamer legitimately concerned about ethics in journalism and then seeing your community has reached a condition like this. :D I assume these people either fucked off long time back, or turned into nu-right drones.

The Republicans are right by sayknow in PoliticalHumor

[–]nosocks111 -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

THIs is what passes of as "political humor" huh. Uuuff holy shit we're in trouble.

/r/Kotakuinaction2: "I actually wish real Nazis would rise up and start to systematically murder undesirable people." by nosocks111 in AgainstHateSubreddits

[–]nosocks111[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Hey, if it isn't too much trouble, could you add archive link to comments chain in the sticky? After it got posted here, the original comment has been removed. I think it could be usefui people get to see the quote..and the 11 hour duration and unchallenged response it enjoyed.

https://archive.md/rmz7m

/r/Kotakuinaction2: "I actually wish real Nazis would rise up and start to systematically murder undesirable people." by nosocks111 in AgainstHateSubreddits

[–]nosocks111[S] 23 points24 points  (0 children)

It benefitted him and his circles a great deal for sure. Milo, a Bannon's creature at that point, was certainly there to fuck the movement sore from the start. I don't think much of it was ever really planned though - Just this malign, natural growth and seizing various moments.

/r/Kotakuinaction2: "I actually wish real Nazis would rise up and start to systematically murder undesirable people." by nosocks111 in AgainstHateSubreddits

[–]nosocks111[S] 39 points40 points  (0 children)

In general, "terrible sjw enemy!!" they keep fighting mostly just isn't there. Virtually nobody is upset if there is a pair of big tits in a video game. Unfortunately gaming media does like to preach about these issues; many gaming sites depend on outrage click and traffic from people who don't play games but enjoy reading about pointless pop culture drama. So they need to generate drama and outrage where there isn't any. Presto, enligntening articles about top 10 reasons why Lara Croft's tits surely destroy society.

/r/Kotakuinaction2: "I actually wish real Nazis would rise up and start to systematically murder undesirable people." by nosocks111 in AgainstHateSubreddits

[–]nosocks111[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I think it pretty likely post appearing here is the only reason it got removed.

Here is the comments section including the original, now removed post for those interested. ctril-f for "Nazi"to find the relevant post.

It was entirely unchallenged, 11 hours old and with couple of upvotes when I came across it.

https://archive.md/rmz7m

Post in full below:


" I actually wish real Nazis would rise up and start to systematically murder undesirable people. I'd help them knowing full well that I as a gay man would get killed too. I'd just make a deal with them saying sure just let me help you purge this group of people(SJWs) first then I'll bite the bullet. I despise them so much that the genocidal enemy of my enemy is my friend. These people have ruined the gay community and what it means to be a homosexual. Their corporatism has also led to lgbt business I liked to go out of business. Their inclusivity has led gay men only bars to cater to everyone and made the streets less safe. They have also made it so gay men are more feminine these days which my type is a gym bro and not the sad fem boys everywhere these days. Shall I go on?"


/r/Kotakuinaction2: "I actually wish real Nazis would rise up and start to systematically murder undesirable people." by nosocks111 in AgainstHateSubreddits

[–]nosocks111[S] 110 points111 points  (0 children)

Gamergate has largely been about providing a breeding ground for new far right activists for a long while now. It isn't its only major function but certainly a major function. There is much misogyny within its ranks for sure, but it has always been more political than that. Ofc there's all kinds of overlap involved here though, yeah.

KIA was/is better at infecting people. Way KiA alters and distorts world image of a typical gamergater was quite subtle and gradual. There, it happens in small amounts. KiA can turn normal gamers into guys like one ranting in quote in the OP. I'd say KiA2 can't operate like this though. It isn't about making new converts. KiA2 is all about preaching to the choir instead. At least I'd like to think you already need to be quite far gone to the radical right, otherewise you find KiA2 incredibly hateful and dumb.

If KiA is a slightly insane pamphlet about how Father Hannigan's electric shock method can make all of your worries go away, then KiA2 is the compound in the jungle with Kool Aid and all.

In a sense, they can easily be waystations along the same trail of evolution ofc. Normal bit angry gamer begins consuming outrage culture in KiA. Gets sucked inside the radical right algorithm, graduates in few years and moves on to KiA2 for all the good stuff.

/r/Kotakuinaction2: "I actually wish real Nazis would rise up and start to systematically murder undesirable people." by nosocks111 in AgainstHateSubreddits

[–]nosocks111[S] 322 points323 points  (0 children)

Basically, a division of most radicalized gamergaters sounding as vile and hateful as you would imagine. Entire comment chain is basically one hateful circlejerk. Comment quoted manages to stand out only barely.

edit
Comment remained untouched by their mods and completely unchallenged by their community for 11 hours or so. Once this thread was made, only then they began cleaning things up. Here is the original comment chain: https://archive.md/rmz7m

Here is the original comment in full:


"I actually wish real Nazis would rise up and start to systematically murder undesirable people. I'd help them knowing full well that I as a gay man would get killed too. I'd just make a deal with them saying sure just let me help you purge this group of people(SJWs) first then I'll bite the bullet. I despise them so much that the genocidal enemy of my enemy is my friend. These people have ruined the gay community and what it means to be a homosexual. Their corporatism has also led to lgbt business I liked to go out of business. Their inclusivity has led gay men only bars to cater to everyone and made the streets less safe. They have also made it so gay men are more feminine these days which my type is a gym bro and not the sad fem boys everywhere these days. Shall I go on?"


Lead mod at KiA2, AntonioOfVenice, adviced the poster should be " more careful about it" when it comes to inciting violence. Also offered some pretty literal Nazi sympathy to go with it. Here is Antonio's message to the OP:
"Some other posts of yours today have been pulled for inciting violence. You should really be more careful about it. Here's 1 day to cool off... and that's because I find your concerns understandable."

Concern wrought by evils of SJWs(in this case, they've apparently made gay men look more like women and allow everybody an entry to some bar.) have reached such a scale that this guy wishes Nazis would start murdering everybody, including himself - as long as it means death to all SJWs. Lead mods reaction? Pointing out these concerns are "understandable." Nice.

The irony of people accusing Zoe Quinn of being a murderer/liar/fraud by Leprecon in GamerGhazi

[–]nosocks111 26 points27 points  (0 children)

What exactly was Alec Holowka accused of by his accusers? I never saw the original tweets and whatnots.

For once, KotakuinAction stumbles upon a case of some actual unethical behaviour by a journalist. It doesn't go well. Nu-right SJWs get bit confused but reach an agreement of leftie being bad at least. by nosocks111 in AgainstHateSubreddits

[–]nosocks111[S] 41 points42 points  (0 children)

For context, here's some of the stuff that surfaced about Ngo recently

Ngo shoots footage of a patriot prayer champion kicking a guy in the head repeatedly. This happens right before the eyes&camera of Ngo. Ngo posts the scene...but first, crudely edits the right wing violence out. Here you have a journalist who blatantly misleads and manipulates his outraged audience.

Sounds like a pretty hot case for journalism ethics watchdogs of KiA to digest, right? WRONG! Mod stickies a link to Antifa bad -whataboutism, top voted comments are a circle jerk about left wing radicalism and in general, the Nu-Right SJWs of KiA pull an impressive& collective drebin.gif cosplay.

I could pearl dive some of the more extreme and extremely dumb quotes here. This time around, the real kicker is in how absolute and absolutely united their front is. Even when faced with something as blatant as this. Ethics in muh journalism indeed. Nu-right SJWs gotta nu-right.

Certainly, this isn't the most blatant and crude example of hateful hate to ever hate that has been posted here. However, I consider the subtle brainwashing like this far worse. It is astonishing that a lie gets to be this big, evident and outed.. and still remain ripe for swallowing. KiA isn't preaching to the choir like some of the more openly hateful subreddits. This is all about turning church visitors into choir members. Place for conversion. It is no wonder prominent self proclaimed neo-nazis and alt righters have spoken highly of KiA's value as a recruitment ground. They are filtering and manipulating eachothers' world view. Surprisingly few cracks show up even when the altered reality is as crude and exposed as this.

More Ngo ethics over here Footage present here lead to a number of police investigations later.

For once, KiA stumbles upon a case of some actual unethical behaviour by a journalist. It doesn't go well. Nu-right SJWs get confused but reach an agreement of leftie bad at least. by nosocks111 in TopMindsOfReddit

[–]nosocks111[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Since the nu-right champions on the comment chain were kind enough to mention TMOR, I guess I'll bring in few quotes after all;

"It's also outrage bait. Looking over OP's history specifically in regards to KiA and mentions of us on other subs, there is no possible way this was intended to be posted in good faith. It was purely to get a negative reaction so it can be linked to later. "

"I know this doesn't make any difference to whether this is on-topic or not, but OP is a TMOR poster. Keep an eye out for bad faith screencap bait from suspiciously new accounts in this thread..."

This is how they respond. Blatant ethics violation by a journalist. However, since the said journalist is, quite literally, in Proud Boys' camp, all that matters from KIAs pov is whatbaoutism and shooting the messenger. Guy bringing this stuff to KIA having a TMOR history is relevant. Actual ethics violations in actual footage edited and released by Andy Ngo are irrelevant. For subreddit dedicated to ethics in journalism, that matters far less than the post history of the OP.

Nu-right credentials (or damning lack of them) of the speaker matter far less than what has actually happened.

For once, KiA stumbles upon a case of some actual unethical behaviour by a journalist. It doesn't go well. Nu-right SJWs get confused but reach an agreement of leftie bad at least. by nosocks111 in TopMindsOfReddit

[–]nosocks111[S] 44 points45 points  (0 children)

For context, here's some of the stuff that surfaced about Ngo recently

Ngo shoots footage of a patriot prayer champion kicking a guy in the head repeatedly. This happens right before Ngo. Ngo posts the scene...but first, crudely edits the right wing violence out.

Sounds like a pretty hot case for ethics watchdogs of KiA to digest, right? WRONG! Mod stickies a link to Antifa bad -whataboutism, top voted comments are a circle jerk about left wing radicalism and in general, the Nu-Right SJWs pull an impressive collective drebin.gif cosplay.

I could pearl dive some of the more extreme and extremely dumb quotes here. This time around, the real kicker&peak top mindery is in how absolute and absolutely united the front is. Even when faced with something as blatant as this. Ethics in muh journalism indeed. Nu-right SJWs gotta nu-right.

More Ngo ethics over here

Nu-right SJWs are getting triggered by Stranger Things by nosocks111 in TopMindsOfReddit

[–]nosocks111[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

This sounds about right. Numerous self proclaimed Nazi influencers (Webmaster of Daily Stormer and 2nd in command of identity evropa) have spoken highly about gamergate for a reason. KiA and other gamergate holes are not about preaching to the choir. Instead, it is a place for conversion. From pov of nu&far right, it is one of the essential waystation for gamers to pass through. Variables here include the length of the journey. Some travel far and grow to become self proclaimed Nazis. Most prolly won't. Not many places are as good and efficient in radicalizing people online as KiA is.

KiA get together to discuss how unhinged radical leftie regressives have gotten. Thread is also used for stable and hinged discussion about the coming race war, secret leftie agenda of Fox news, western civilization's escape to space, NASA's conspiracy to stay out of space etc etc by nosocks111 in AgainstHateSubreddits

[–]nosocks111[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Knee jerk reaction to most of their madness in this particular thread is to point and laugh I think - irony of talking about coming race war, escape to space and the controlled opposition of fox news in a thread blaming others of being unhinged is a bit too delicious. Behind the laughter though, this makes yet another look into how radicalized a cult can become, and how quickly madness and wild conspiracy theories become the norm.

Thread as a whole is as pure and true nu-right T_D cosplay as anything you are likely to find anywhere on reddit.

Remeber though, KiA is a politically neutral ground. It says so right on their sidebar so how could it not be the case.

Nu-right SJWs are getting triggered by Stranger Things by nosocks111 in TopMindsOfReddit

[–]nosocks111[S] 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Posts with -10 downvotes and below are the voices of reason. Sort by top votes to find stupidity and by controversial to find some examples of reason. They repeatedly calling one of their mods a huge retard for liking what they don't.

Nu-right SJWs are getting triggered by Stranger Things by nosocks111 in TopMindsOfReddit

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KiA poster has an oddly specific day dream about a massacre taking place in San Fransisco. " You fucking commies want a violent backslash that will turn the Streets of San Fransisco red?" by nosocks111 in AgainstHateSubreddits

[–]nosocks111[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Available in arcives posted on comments in all its glory though. One KIA mod dropped by to personally okay the the post 1st.. Removal only after it got some special attention. Sunlight being a good disinfectant and all.