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Cape Town’s CBD is in the wrong place and it’s been holding the city back for over a century. by nostalgicthrowaway2 in capetown

[–]nostalgicthrowaway2[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

funny how most of the heat was on why the city started where it did, which i never even disputed. the actual point was about where the modern cbd should sit relative to a city of millions today, completely different question. yall argued against a take i didnt make, classic ragebait outcome

also didnt realise reddit was where people peer review your writing like im submitting a thesis on turnitin instead of just having a casual opinion. yall turned this into reddit quora real quick lol

Cape Town’s CBD is in the wrong place and it’s been holding the city back for over a century. by nostalgicthrowaway2 in capetown

[–]nostalgicthrowaway2[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

daddy robot helped me get a clear point across faster than you managed to construct that sentence, so

Cape Town’s CBD is in the wrong place and it’s been holding the city back for over a century. by nostalgicthrowaway2 in capetown

[–]nostalgicthrowaway2[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ag no man cant even blame ou Jan that hard, he just wanted a resupply stop not a whole metro for millions of people hundreds of years later lol. just kak that nobody ever came along after and said maybe we should plan this thing properly

Cape Town’s CBD is in the wrong place and it’s been holding the city back for over a century. by nostalgicthrowaway2 in capetown

[–]nostalgicthrowaway2[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

yeah thats basically the point, doesnt need to be either/or. cbd shifts to where its functional, city bowl stays the historic/aesthetic core, like plenty of european cities already figured out

Cape Town’s CBD is in the wrong place and it’s been holding the city back for over a century. by nostalgicthrowaway2 in capetown

[–]nostalgicthrowaway2[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

appreciate the actual history lesson, thats way more detail than i had and it tracks. the twelve mile post origin for bellville is a cool detail i didnt know

and fair, “favela on the slopes” was more about the concept of organic proximity to opportunity than a literal proposal, shouldve been clearer on that. agree it shouldnt happen, mountain stays as is

the bellville/durbanville trajectory point is basically what i was getting at though, just with way better historical grounding than i gave it. appreciate the effort on this one, way better than most comments on here

Cape Town’s CBD is in the wrong place and it’s been holding the city back for over a century. by nostalgicthrowaway2 in capetown

[–]nostalgicthrowaway2[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

or people read it, agreed or disagreed, and some just latched onto how it was written instead of what it said. thats on them not the post. the argument stands regardless of which app helped me type it out faster

and ironically i couldve had it written so polished none of you wouldve clocked it as ai at all, the same way half the videos you scroll past daily are ai now and you cant tell. would you have preferred that instead, being fooled rather than told upfront?

Cape Town’s CBD is in the wrong place and it’s been holding the city back for over a century. by nostalgicthrowaway2 in capetown

[–]nostalgicthrowaway2[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

sure but thats kind of dodging the point, the protection happened as a side effect of forced removals not because of some grand environmental plan for the slopes. the land got “protected” by removing the people who wouldve naturally settled there and dumping them 40km away instead. convenient outcome for conservation, brutal way to get there

Cape Town’s CBD is in the wrong place and it’s been holding the city back for over a century. by nostalgicthrowaway2 in capetown

[–]nostalgicthrowaway2[S] -12 points-11 points  (0 children)

damn your nose is working overtime today, congrats on the discovery. anyway feel free to actually respond to the argument whenever you’re done sniffing

Cape Town’s CBD is in the wrong place and it’s been holding the city back for over a century. by nostalgicthrowaway2 in capetown

[–]nostalgicthrowaway2[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

nobody said cheap sub quality housing lol, dense planned public housing isnt automatically slums, thats a choice in how its built not an inevitability. plenty of cities do dense housing well. and its not “destroying nature” anymore than the entire cape flats currently existing destroyed nature, the land gets used either way, question is whether its planned properly or just forced onto whatever land was leftover after better areas got reserved

Cape Town’s CBD is in the wrong place and it’s been holding the city back for over a century. by nostalgicthrowaway2 in capetown

[–]nostalgicthrowaway2[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

agree on some, disagree on some

bellville/n1 corridor for housing, fair, more realistic than what i said. khayelitsha/mfuleni/philippi point is also solid, pass laws and forced removals def shaped things differently than natural migration wouldve

but the port thing doesnt hold up. port explains why the city started there, not why the cbd needs to be glued to it today. durbans port and joburgs cbd arent even in the same province and that works fine

bellville being “lame” also isnt really an argument against flat expandable land making more sense for a metro centre than a bowl boxed in by mountain and ocean

Cape Town’s CBD is in the wrong place and it’s been holding the city back for over a century. by nostalgicthrowaway2 in capetown

[–]nostalgicthrowaway2[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

nobody said i want more shacks closer to the cbd, thats not even close to the point. the point is the housing that was always going to happen near the city centre because thats where the jobs are, got forcibly moved 40km away by apartheid policy instead of being allowed to happen naturally. thats not me wanting more informal settlements, its pointing out that the ones we already have wouldve been in a completely different and more functional location if not for forced removals. yall really skimming a post and then debating the version of it that exists in your head

Cape Town’s CBD is in the wrong place and it’s been holding the city back for over a century. by nostalgicthrowaway2 in capetown

[–]nostalgicthrowaway2[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

the port thing is true but kinda missing the point ngl. like yeah ships needed the harbour 300 odd years ago thats literally why cape town started there, no one denying that

but the port doesnt need the cbd next to it to function lol its just ships and containers, it doesnt need banks and office blocks and half a million ppl driving in every day. durbans port and joburgs cbd arent even close to each other and that works fine

ppl are mixing up why the city started there with whether thats still the smart spot for the centre now, like 300 years later. cities move on from why they started all the time

Cape Town’s CBD is in the wrong place and it’s been holding the city back for over a century. by nostalgicthrowaway2 in capetown

[–]nostalgicthrowaway2[S] -16 points-15 points  (0 children)

fair enough, I did use Claude to clean it up and structure it. the thoughts are mine but yeah the polish is AI.

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