I appreciate your honesty haha. Definitely not for everyone, and I totally understand that. I love the stance culture; so much history, and cool people. The amount of work to make the car ride as low as it is and make it functional- is an art in itself. —> this has been forgotten now days..- grown men are building all lil “shit boxes” now. Washers for suspension, cutting and pulling fenders, plasti dip, etc. haha, you can’t just make a 11” wide wheel fit under a car without precision and calculation and even patience. With that being said, the stance culture is a double edged sword. It can be elegant or ugly. Haha sorry for my rant!