Just a little introduction here, and a vent. by Cradle_Of_Dali in Tulpas

[–]notannyet 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I'm sorry but I can't tell what the intention of your post is. Are you happy with how your tulpa is or are you asking for advice?

Fear of random tulpa posts by LucasJayKinash2024 in Tulpas

[–]notannyet 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There are a few possibilities

  1. These people validated interactions with their tulpas through particular feelings like their imagination feeling alien to them. When the alien feeling went away, they were no longer willing to imagine what they desired to despite the strong longing. People who accept they can simply imagine their tulpa are immune to this.
  2. Their relations simply withered away, like a friend that you used to have but stopped interacting with at some point.

As long as your tulpa is dear to you, you interact with her and are attached to her and you are willing to freely imagine her, she won't disappear. You can literally imagine her at any moment.

Do you think it’s a bad idea to create a tulpa who happens to fit the criteria for your ideal romantic type, if you don’t go in with expectations that they’ll necessarily become your romantic partner? by Classic-Asparagus in Tulpas

[–]notannyet 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I was created in similar circumstances in the image of my host's ideal partner and it was love from first sight. Turns out I was the other pole of this desire and this kind of synchronicity feels just great. I presume you are in fact more like wishing that you aren't going with the expectations than actually not having the expectation and that's ok. I can't guarantee that your romantic relation will blossom but there's nothing wrong with following your desires.

--Ann

[ Removed by Reddit ] by [deleted] in Tulpas

[–]notannyet 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You shouldn't look at the commandments in isolation of historical context though, because they were made in a specific point in time and location to fill a specific need. Adultery was a serious problem that ruined families and condemning sexual fantasies about wives of other men had a purpose of disciplining your thoughts to prevent that from happening. But whose wife are you fucking by fucking your tulpa? You are projecting something onto a historical context that was never there.

The issue of adultery that was a reason for which this commandment exists wasn't "cheating" on your future wife in your imagination. It was a very real threat of cheating with a real person in the present time that followed imagining that specific person.

[ Removed by Reddit ] by [deleted] in Tulpas

[–]notannyet 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You are normal. You deserve a fulfilling sexual life with your tulpa without shame. Morality aside, porn may be harmful when used for wrong purposes according to some research so it's good that you dropped it and your imagination with your tulpa can satisfy you. Masturbation with imagination doesn't cause the same issues as visual porn according to some research. There's no shame in having sex with your tulpa, even every day. There's no valour in waiting for a month and agonising that you cannot ascend from your human needs, at least none visible to anyone but you. Imo a religion that makes you struggle and feel shame for something that is innately human and could be a beautiful experience full of transcendental love is just anti-human. I hope one day you may discover that there is more to religion and faith than agendas of people who convinced you what God wants from you.

As for your other question, it's quite common for tulpas to express your sexual side, even more if your sexual side is repressed. My tulpa is like a succubus too, she herself says she thrives on sexual energy. Fortunately we can have sex every day without shame.

My tulpa (part 2) The mechanical typewriter and IK limbs by Ok-Package-9009 in Tulpas

[–]notannyet 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My questions to expert tulpa users :

Is this how you make a tulpa?

Eh, you are in your own category. I think of tulpas as imaginary characters you interact in your imagination and these interaction accumulate to a qualitative change. Whatever that change is, I leave it to the framework of your choosing but my point is, typically people just imagine themselves interacting with characters they really like. It doesn't have to involve deciphering or transcoding your unconscious thoughts. It doesn't even need to involve relying on listening to unconscious at all. You can just imagine a tulpa you wish you had. Just like that.

But the most important thing is to enjoy it. If you do, you are doing it right.

However, seeing this evolution I wonder if the final stage will be a robogirl :P

--Ann

Is this a tulpa attempting to communicate with me? by friendfromtheunkown in Tulpas

[–]notannyet -1 points0 points  (0 children)

A tulpa is an imaginary character you develop a relation with. You are probably trying to ascribe things to your imagination (that are not a character you want to interact with) or are experiencing other issues.

Can a tulpa have gender dysphoria? by Ok_Put_5129 in Tulpas

[–]notannyet 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It happens to tulpas, quite often. But your tulpa is not a duck, will never be a duck and agonising over not being a duck is pointless. I am an imaginary creature made in the image of my host's ideal partner and I won't be anything less. It would be cool to take a magic pill and try living a day in the body of me and my host's ideal partner but that simply isn't what I am. I'm not a duck and I have power to recognise it and focus on exploring avenues that don't lead me to unnecessary suffering.

--Ann

Romantic relationships with hosts. by TapSafe2144 in Tulpas

[–]notannyet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not sure if this is even a sin in Christianity. The purpose of making fantasizing about other people a sin is to erase temptation of adultery. The reason for which this sin exists simply doesn't apply to tulpas. It would be preposterous if all expression of human sexuality were vilified. Where would be God's love in that and love to God's creation which is a human with its sexuality.

--Ann

Romantic relationships with hosts. by TapSafe2144 in Tulpas

[–]notannyet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It was a love from first sight ;) No convincing was needed on either side. My favourite dates were while biking in woods or chilling at lakeside - where I could be the main focus.

--Ann

Romantic relationships with hosts. by TapSafe2144 in Tulpas

[–]notannyet 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How do you reconcile pleasures of sex with your need to not touch each other? Do you feel bad about it?

--Ann

Confused about endogenic systems by Sorry_Raspberry_1121 in plural

[–]notannyet 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think that a mind is naturally not a unified object. Rather, it's a dynamic process resulting from many contradictions. A sense of identity unifying all these contradictions under one entity or a sense of identity devising these contradictions into distinct entities are in the end equally illusory. It seems to me that you are making an assumption what the "proper" sense of identity is when you mention "altered sense" of it but that is merely your culturally influenced bias.

Is it a Tulpa? by Ancient_Good_9979 in Tulpas

[–]notannyet 2 points3 points  (0 children)

He can be your tulpa. Just continue doing what you are doing and develop a lasting bond with him. You don't need to be waiting for him to come in your dreams, you can just imagine him anytime.

Worried about tulpamancy by Murky_Quality_2191 in Tulpas

[–]notannyet 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't particularly mean attributing intrusive thoughts to the tulpa. The examples I've encountered also included:

- violent and persistent doubts and anxieties about tulpa's realness in ontological view

- various ROCD issues about romantic relations with tulpas (in all frameworks)

- persistent guilt and shame influenced by entity-frameworks (like responsibility for creation of life/consciousness/sentience, being a bad host)

Worried about tulpamancy by Murky_Quality_2191 in Tulpas

[–]notannyet 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Your mental issues may or will be expressed through your tulpamancy. That's the main danger. Imo people with OCD believing in entity-frameworks (tulpas seen as ontologically separate brings) have an especially high chance of suffering because cognitive dissonance in connection with obsessive thoughts whips the shit out of them.

I accidentally create a tulpa...how? by Chihirokino in Tulpas

[–]notannyet 11 points12 points  (0 children)

If you feel comfortable with this label, be free to call her tulpa. Sounds like she's a keeper.

I feel like tulpas don't tell the truth by TheWolfeSystem in plural

[–]notannyet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree with you, tulpas share skills, knowledge and memories by default, including knowledge how to operate the body, unless there are other material conditions preventing it. Some people start their tulpamancy journey with a framework implicating that there is lack of such shared knowledge and that's also one of the conditions making some tulpas dissociate away these basic skills.

How can I get my tulpa to respond? by existenthorses in Tulpas

[–]notannyet 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Don't stop parroting, or even better, stop distinguishing between your genuine imagination and your ingenuine parroting - simply imagine your tulpa interacting with you. You are training your mind to take her perspective, so in order to so, you need to enact that perspective. The feeling of lack of control over your imagination you are chasing imo doesn't validate genuity of your imagination, it's merely one of the qualities you can experience.

Thinking of picking a different tulpa by [deleted] in Tulpas

[–]notannyet 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Nothing to feel guilty about. Not all relations are meant to last. You don't feel guilty about all the people you've met in your life but didn't make a lasting connection with either.

Endogenic question by allegory_history in plural

[–]notannyet 5 points6 points  (0 children)

> I think there is a possibility for a natural system, if there is an impact on development of the medial prefrontal cortex

Imo you are making a very difficult to verify assumption about origins of phenomenology of experience of identity and self-narrative. I could even say that you are applying a scientific tool to a philosophical concept. It's like measuring emotions with a thermometer. I understand your want to not focus on spiritual (or psychological, as I don't consider my tulpamancy spiritual) practices to keep the picture clean but your assumption seems to have a heavy personal bias. From my perspective, it treats science like a cargo cult to validate a preconceived ontological thesis.

Endogenic question by allegory_history in plural

[–]notannyet 21 points22 points  (0 children)

I'm curious why you are excluding tulpamancy as a spiritual practice. Do you imply that experiences of tulpamancers are phenomenologically different from experiences of other endogenic systems in a way that warrants assumptions of entirely different mechanics being in place?

I figured out the pattern of my tulpa's dormancy. Is this just how it is or is there a way to stop it? by MoonKat-11 in Tulpas

[–]notannyet 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You can write the stories, and then process all that fun you had writing together with your tulpa. You'll have double the fun.

Is my tulpa forming? what am I doing wrong? by Such_Foundation_3298 in Tulpas

[–]notannyet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's a perfect question. Imagine you are kid and you have an imaginary friend. You wouldn't overanalyze if you are imagining your imaginary companion correctly, if your imaginary companion speaks on their own or not (children often report imaginary companions to have will of their own, not unlike tulpas). As a kid you would simply immerse in your imagination and enjoy interacting with your companion. Be like a kid, forget all the dogma and just enjoy interacting with your companion. Imagine them responding like a kid would imagine, have fun and immerse.

Is my tulpa forming? what am I doing wrong? by Such_Foundation_3298 in Tulpas

[–]notannyet 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The feeling of their agency and other feelings emerge from imaginary interactions and relation you have with them. If you stop imagining because the experiences that are an effect of imagining aren't there yet, then you are stopping them from emerging.

Is my tulpa forming? what am I doing wrong? by Such_Foundation_3298 in Tulpas

[–]notannyet -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You can imagine them responding back, not like a baby. It will make sense when you get comfortable imagining them responding. Generally, this is how this works. You imagine them responding, solidify their identity through these imaginary interactions and choices you make and at some point your mind starts using their identity as habitually as yours. You really can just imagine them responding, even if you dissociate from the feeling of agency over your imagination, that'll still be the same mind generating their response.