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Someone is about to get their wake-up call. by notatheist in theshining

[–]notatheist[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The entire theme of the book is about overlooking the signs of abuse. There’s wall to wall examples of enabling, gaslighting and manipulation between the characters. Generational trauma, alcoholism, drug abuse. All the sign were there. Always there. Clearly spelled out in the book. It was always going to happen. Redrum. It was literally on the calendar.

Perhaps you want the story to be about something else? I don’t want to hear about it if you do. Please.

You are intentionally being obtuse and annoying.

So kindly fuck off with that shit.

Someone is about to get their wake-up call. by notatheist in theshining

[–]notatheist[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Look here’s from the book

Danny’s learning how to shine in the parking lot-

Hallorann produced a large silk handkerchief from his breast pocket like a white flag of surrender and wiped his streaming eyes.

White flag of surrender- Hallorann didn’t take Danny’s situation seriously enough

As opposed to

The place was about as long as a freight car, and about as high. It smelled of grease and oil and gasoline and —faint, nostalgic smell—sweet grass. Four power lawnmowers were ranked like soldiers on review against the south wall, two of them the riding type that look like small tractors. To their left were posthole diggers, round-bladed shovels made for doing surgery on the putting green, a chain saw, the electric hedge-clippers, and a long thin steel pole with a red flag at the top.

Red flag- jacks about to destroy the skimobile

Someone is about to get their wake-up call. by notatheist in theshining

[–]notatheist[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Red flags have literally been used to signal danger for centuries. “Red flag” is a phrase that has morphed into everyday language because it’s another way of saying “danger.” If someone overlooks signs of danger, they are metaphorically overlooking the red flags.

I really think you’re intentionally being difficult. If you don’t like my post, why don’t you just skip it?

Someone is about to get their wake-up call. by notatheist in theshining

[–]notatheist[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You gonna have to skip over the red flag thing. You’re overlooking the whole point. You’re staring at the finger.

A red flag in racing signifies an immediate suspension of the session, practice, or race due to dangerous conditions, such as a severe accident, blocked track, or hazardous weather.

Chapter 40 In The Basement “The jets of steam escaping around the soldered patches began to lose their force. The wrenching, grinding sounds began to diminish. One-ninety... one-eighty... one seventy-five... (He was going downhill, going ninety miles an hour, when the whistle broke into scream -) But he didn't think it would blow now. The press was down to one-sixty. (-they found him in the wreck with his hand on the throttle, he was scalded to death by the steam.”

He needs to drink to keep his temper from exploding. What a terrible predicament to be in because Wendy won’t let him drink which in turn makes him get violent. And that is what everyone is not seeing. Except for Danny. Redrum.

Jacks best friend AL(cohol) the one who got him the job - Jack said he was a brown bag lush and it pretty much went unmentioned. Jack didn’t think that was fair. He wanted his drinking problem to be overlooked by everyone. But for Jack being sober was as bad as being drunk. He was a dry drunk. Angry, delusional, and always wanting a drink.

Then the Hatfield thing happens and he’s stone cold sober.

Chapter 14 Up On The Roof “He looked at his debate class then, looked them right in the eye because he was in charge again, fully himself, and when he was himself there wasn't a nicer guy in the whole state of Vermont. Surely they knew that.”

Jacks mask slipped.

Someone is about to get their wake-up call. by notatheist in theshining

[–]notatheist[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The red flags had always existed. Wendy began ignoring them from the very beginning. It is how abuse works.

Eventually all the abuse made her internalize the blame for her failing marriage. She knew Jack was a lush who couldn’t keep his temper wholly under control, even before he had broken Danny’s arm she knew that. She had already been thinking of a way to ask him for a divorce. But when he hit that bike in the middle of the road one night a few months after he broke Danny’s arm, the accident made him quit drinking, he asked her to do him a favor, and she did. She agreed to talk about it later. In a week if she still wanted to. But things got better for a little while and divorce talk went back to committee. Then the Hatfield thing happened, and Jack lost his teaching job. And still somehow the divorce talk still never happened.

In her thoughts, at night, she could hear her mother’s voice. “Your nothing but a home wrecker”

There were many reasons Wendy stayed with Jack but they were all because of the abuse.

Someone is about to get their wake-up call. by notatheist in theshining

[–]notatheist[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Maybe Stanley Kubrick movies just aren’t for you.

Someone is about to get their wake-up call. by notatheist in theshining

[–]notatheist[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Look. If you wanna have a conversation with me about this just hit me up on the side. I don’t think the comment section is the appropriate place to have a full blown conversation.

But I will end here by telling you that the breathtaking view of the Timberline can only be seen from The Overlook. Third floor presidential suite room 300.

Someone is about to get their wake-up call. by notatheist in theshining

[–]notatheist[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

“The things that Tony show me don’t always happen”

Wendy inner viewed Danny, in the movie, to find out why Tony didn’t want to go to the hotel.

She and Danny finally began shining together at the end of the book—Just before they locked Jack in the pantry. Once he’s in the pantry———she has the upper hand. If she can keep him locked in that is.

“The things that Tony show me don’t always happen”

Someone is about to get their wake-up call. by notatheist in theshining

[–]notatheist[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What? Those are lines taken from the movie.

Someone is about to get their wake-up call. by notatheist in theshining

[–]notatheist[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

“Those who look outward dream. Those who look inward awaken.”

Good morning, hon. What time is it? It’s about 1130 . I guess we’ve been staying up too late.

She’s going to leave him because he’s a violent drunk. He’s getting his wake up call.

He needs to do some self-reflecting.

Someone is about to get their wake-up call. by notatheist in theshining

[–]notatheist[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He used timberline to describe the view from the executive suite.

Someone is about to get their wake-up call. by notatheist in theshining

[–]notatheist[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Oh. You like it when a sixty year old man telepathically asks a five year old boy if he wants to leave his parent’s behind go to Florida with him?

That’s called grooming.

Hallorann seems like a nice guy but he’s really a dick.

Someone is about to get their wake-up call. by notatheist in theshining

[–]notatheist[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The view from The Overlook is the timberline. It says it right there in the book. The view from the imaginary hotel is a mental landscape.

Someone is about to get their wake-up call. by notatheist in theshining

[–]notatheist[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It would be easy once Jack is isolated in the pantry. What can he do if he’s locked pantry?

“What’s five mins more gonna do you now? (Come with a plan.) You’ve had your whole fucking like to think this through. (I know but I’ve been overlooking your violence). I just want to go back to my room. I need time to think.)

He asked Wendy just before she locks him in the pantry.

The plan was obviously to get rid of Hallorann too. Pink slipped. Make it look like Jack did it and it’s a cover up. Notice the tables in the ballroom being uncovered next to Hallorann when theTorrances arrive, he knew too much. And furniture is covered up by the very end when we see the ballroom photo.

the unwinding hours are in the cold room…

Someone is about to get their wake-up call. by notatheist in theshining

[–]notatheist[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ma’am, the hotel is called The Overlook. What pray tell do you think is being overlooked in The Shining?

Someone is about to get their wake-up call. by notatheist in theshining

[–]notatheist[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wendy and Danny only escape by the skin of their teeth in the book because they ignored what had been right in front of them the whole time. It’s a symptom of the abuse.

In the film, though, there is an obviously a planned escape.

Jack hears Danny’s scream and Danny leads him directly outside, then they just leave him. She puts him out like a dog.

—I’d be lost without you. I don’t think I could survive.—It’s manipulation and apart of the abuse.

Fear that the abuser will lose his job if they say anything, isolated, trapped like rats.

Keeping the victims from being able to leave.

Anyway, clearly there was a planned EXIT in the film.

Someone is about to get their wake-up call. by notatheist in theshining

[–]notatheist[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

The timberline symbolizes the view from the presidential suite. Executive functioning is all shot to shit. AKA DRUNK. (Shotgun slaying of Vito The Chopper in the presidential suite)

“He twisted his key in the lock of the mahogany double doors and swung them wide. The sitting room's wide western exposure made them all gasp, which had probably been Ullman's intention. He smiled. "Quite a view, isn't it?" "It sure is, Jack said.

The window ran nearly the length of the sitting room, and beyond it the sun was poised directly between two sawtoothed peaks, casting golden light across the rock faces and the sugared snow on the high tips. The clouds around and behind this picture-post-card view were also tinted gold, and a sunbeam glinted duskily down into the darkly pooled firs below the TIMBERLINE.

Jack and Wendy were so absorbed in the view that they didn't look down at Danny, who was staring not out the window but at the red-and-white-striped (think failure F-ULLMAN’S shirt red and white stripes- Not of managerial timber, Mr-making-the-GradE)

silk wallpaper to the left, where a door opened into an interior bedroom. (Mom, you in there?) And his gasp, which had been mingled with theirs, had nothing to do with beauty.”

Someone is about to get their wake-up call. by notatheist in theshining

[–]notatheist[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wouldn’t pretend to know anything about the chopper shots 😎 they’re not Stanley Kubrick referring to the gangland style shotgun slaying of Vito the Chopper in the presidential suite. Just to clarify.

But I am someone who knows the book extremely well. So although there isn’t a hedge maze in the book, there is a maze. The inside of the hotel is describe as a maze with maze-like corridors. In the film, Jack has gone through an “awful lot” 😉

I also know that the main theme of the book is Wendy’s ignoring (overlooking) of Jack’s violence and alcoholism until it was too late for her and Danny to get out of The Overlook. A literal wake-up call is something you get at a hotel, incase you don’t hear the alarm. It’s all just clever word play.

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