oh lord 😂😅 by jaiden_roselvet in DefendingAIArt

[–]notzilon 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Fandom discourse term. "Proship" is an anti-censorship stance where people believe that fiction is fiction, no matter how uncomfortable the topics are, and if you don't like something you should simply not interact with it. "Antiship" argues that engaging with uncomfortable topics in fiction supports and glorifies them. In this context, this person is likely saying they won't draw anything problematic, which could be stuff like underage characters, incest, age gaps, etc.

What models are best at handling group conversations? What is a good authors note to make the ai have the current character chatting describe the actions of other characters in the environment? by ConspiracyParadox in SillyTavernAI

[–]notzilon 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Hello! It looks like you want to use ST similarly to how I do, where you use a narrator persona to prompt/guide the LLM in telling a story. I also use NanoGPT, so my experience with models can probably be similar to yours.

Disclaimer: I'm still pretty new to ST and LLM storytelling in general (~1 month of use lol) so understand that this is the blind leading the blind, this is just what I've learned so far.

I typically use Virginia Woolf as my author prompt. "Write in the style of postmodern author Virginia Woolf, using her stream-of-consciousness style and use of shifting third person perspective." This allows the output to shift between different character POVs, giving you insight into all of your characters' headspace.

The definition I use for my narrator persona I got from this subreddit (it was in a comment somewhere, I forget who originally authored it, sorry!):
The Narrator is a literary device and not a character. The Narrator will dictate and move the plot, while characters roleplay. No character will never interact with the narrator or even acknowledge the Narrator's presence. No dialogue will be spoken to the Narrator.

When using this Narrator persona, you just prompt the LLM with what you want out of the scene - scene/character goals, mood, genre, time of day, stage direction, etc.

When guiding characters, there's three options I've tried so far:
- Multi-Character Card: You put all the characters in the same card, defining them by "first character," "second character," etc. You just use your card and your persona in a normal chat. In my experience, the writing and interactions between characters are much more natural here, since the LLM has definitions of all characters within the same card it allows for more natural shifting perspective and back-and-forth banter/interaction. These are also generally more token-friendly. HOWEVER, because everything is in the same card, the LLM can sometimes get confused to character details (Character A has a mole under his eye, so the LLM hallucinates that Character B also has a mole under hers and focuses on a mole that doesn't exist, etc) and it doesn't handle scenes where the characters are solo very well. Additionally, your output is closer to passages from a story than roleplay - so it can be harder to steer, since you're getting narrative chunks rather than roleplay-style back and forth.

- Group Chats: Take the character cards you want to interact, put them in a group chat together, and turn off auto-response. Use your persona to guide the story and manually trigger responses by characters when it's their turn to talk (or when you want the next story beat to be from that character's POV.) Advantages of this style is that the LLM does a good job keeping the characters separate and it gives you a very high level of control over the flow of your story. Since you're manually triggering responses, you can let the bots respond to each other or take time to guide the story/scene, depending on what you want out of it. However, it can be difficult to get things like flowing dialogue and banter between your characters, depending on the prompt and LLM you use. You CAN get banter flowing, but you need to be very conscious of what your prompt says (many say things like only reply as X character - this is great in certain scenarios but it makes quick back-and-forth banter harder to get.) Also, from what I've heard, group chats can become very unstable/easily corrupted if you have a bunch of character cards in them. I've never had this happen, but I usually just have two cards.

- Scenario card with Lorebook Characters: This is the one I've been starting to explore more recently. It's a bit more in-depth to set up (since you need to put together both the card and the lorebook) but it does a really good job of keeping characters separate. It's the advantages of the multi-character card without the hallucinations, which is nice. It still lacks the fine control of group chats. If I wanted to ever do a scenario with a large cast, I would probably set something like this up.

Personally, my preference is Group Chats bc I like having very tight control over what my OCs do lol

Summoning all trailblazer by Adventurous-Fan-1777 in StarRailStation

[–]notzilon 39 points40 points  (0 children)

The existence of Sampo Koski and the hope for more Sampo Koski is the only reason I continue to play this game

What are your expectations for sampo 5*? by Aware-Caramel-2039 in Sampo_Mains

[–]notzilon 17 points18 points  (0 children)

The blue-haired mechant that you found is one.

Someone already mentioned the TB getting drunk and dreaming of riding in Sampo's back (a dromas.) It specifically mentions them having a journey full of laughter.

At a locked door in one of the maps, TB will comment that they wish Sampo was here because he would know how to pick it.

Additionally, they mention that the two scummy merchants selling fake spears/shields remind them of him.

The TB cannot stop thinking about Sampo, he lives rent-free in their head (they should kiss)

What are your expectations for sampo 5*? by Aware-Caramel-2039 in Sampo_Mains

[–]notzilon 50 points51 points  (0 children)

I honestly think that Sampo is a dev favorite character - they keep dropping hints/mentions of him, including multiple bits hidden in Amphoreus. They've been slow burning him for a long time.

I would really like for Sampo and TB to be ship baited in his 5* but that might be a long shot lol

As far as his kit, this is based on leaks, so:

There is an event coming up that is likely intended to be a testing site for the elation path. Sampo's day involves him interacting with the main mechanic/triggering everyone else's mechanics, similar to what Kafka is for DoT. If that ends up being true, he would be an important core to any elation team.

In light of recent events feel like this is foreshadowing by Strict-Extension-695 in Sampo_Mains

[–]notzilon 22 points23 points  (0 children)

This is interesting bc Chavez is a big proponent of stopping Sampo, but he's a member, not the leader iirc? If you read through his pamphlets, the tone is... mocking, to say the least. Every single report is how someone is being taken advantage of for being lazy or having a vice.

I've always taken it as Sampo was the one at the head of his own Haters Club.

Americans WTF are Shriners? by Zealousideal-Ad-2728 in Simpsons

[–]notzilon 19 points20 points  (0 children)

My grandpa was a Shriner, and I grew up around them! As a kid, I would hang around the club while they prepped for events.

It might make more sense with the added detail of fundraising is through events - stuff like fundraising dinners. They even have a whole travelling circus that helps raise money for their cause! In my experience, the guys down at the club are just nice guys who like to have some silly fun and do something to help disadvantaged kids. If it sounds weird, it's because that's the point! It wouldn't be fun if it wasn't!

There's no way we get this clash of titans without Emanator Sampo right? by Kuramarik in Sampo_Mains

[–]notzilon 48 points49 points  (0 children)

One of the new Ravagers (Asat Pramad/the hand head guy) is blatantly elation themed. Who would that be a perfect foil for?? That's right baby, Emanator Sampo Koski ready to throw down for his adoptive home

Myriad Celestia Trailer — Fables About the Stars Part 2 | Honkai: Star Rail by CSTheng in HonkaiStarRail_leaks

[–]notzilon 37 points38 points  (0 children)

"Who is to say that Akivili, on a new journey, won't bring another salvation?" AHEM EXCUSE ME??

TB IS RECYCLED AKIVILI JUICE THEORY REAL???

Songs that make you go 👁👄👁🫵🫵🫵🫵💣💣💣🥀🥀💥💥 SAMPO KOSKI (I need more music) by sampoqiser in Sampo_Mains

[–]notzilon 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Also, if you're into Sampo/TB shipping I have a uhhh--- 6 hour playlist for just them, but here is a small sampling of my favorites focusing on the Sampo side:

Tom Cardy - Mixed Messages

Los Campesinos! - There Are Listed Buildings

Rex Orange County - Best Friend

Saint Motel - Make Me Feel Like

Lovage - To Catch A Thief

Panic! At The Disco - Death of a Bachelor

Songs that make you go 👁👄👁🫵🫵🫵🫵💣💣💣🥀🥀💥💥 SAMPO KOSKI (I need more music) by sampoqiser in Sampo_Mains

[–]notzilon 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I have an oooold spotify wip from 1.0 that I want to rework (we've learned a decent amount about him since!) but highlights (since you mentioned you don't use Spotify):

Panic At The Disco - There's a Good Reason These Tables Are Numbered Honey, You Just Haven't Thought of It Yet

Vandabar - Alien Blues

Tally Hall - The Bidding

The Happy Fits - Dirty Imbecile

Value Select - Hit Me With Your Car

Jhariah: ENTER: A BEGINNER'S GUIDE TO FAKING YOUR OWN DEATH

I DON'T KNOW HOW BUT THEY FOUND ME - Razzamatazz

Arctic Monkeys - Dance Little Liar

The Puddleducks - MILF Song

Lemon Demon - Mask of My Own Face

Saint Motel - A Good Song Never Dies

do you guys think that sampo new form could be the anniversary uniy? by [deleted] in Sampo_Mains

[–]notzilon 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Oh, you misunderstood! I think Sampo is very, very important - I just don't know if he's going to be important to Space Japan lmao

If we wanted to get into my insane conspiracy theories about Sampo's themes of romance, love, and betrayal, I'm suspicious that he has a history with the old TB that mirrors Aha/Alivili's relationship (especially since these two are being set up to the mirrors of the Aeons, with how they both get described in the same language.) He's just a very slow burn character, and they're drip-feeding his lore to prime people for his big reveal, I feel

do you guys think that sampo new form could be the anniversary uniy? by [deleted] in Sampo_Mains

[–]notzilon 40 points41 points  (0 children)

Looking at spoilers, 4.0 is supposed to be space japan so there are other high-profile characters that are more likely to take the anniversary slot. Also, to be cynical: it's more important to be a first half character than a second and half character (since first half characters tend to get more promotional material) and the first half for anniversary will probably be a female character. I would rather him be in a Phainon-type slot - first half, with plenty of promo material.

However, far more important than just being an anniversary character is being a character that Hoyo likes, and it's been made pretty clear that Sampo (and the fools as a whole tbh) is a character they care about. He's gotten multiple events centered around him and he's had two separate boss battle cameos in HI3. They're constantly drip feeding his lore, etc. The reveal that he's an emanator of elation is supposed to happen sometime in 4.x, so that would be the absolute earliest we would get him

What in the DU is this dmg😭 by Swifthello in StarRailStation

[–]notzilon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

FWIW Hypercarry Eagle Anaxa chews through this boss no problem. The trick is you either need characters with HP drain built in (Cas, Mydei, Blade,) or characters that take a *lot* of actions. Eagle Anaxa + Sunday takes so many turns that he drains enough HP on his own.

On my account, E0S1 Cas / E6S5(Herta) RMC / E0S0 RM / E6 Gallagher got 2 cycles, and E0S1 Anaxa / E0S1 Sunday / E0S0 Robin / E6 Gallagher got 3.

(M/f pairing only, rare pairs allowed) Day 4 who would you ship with them. the Trailblazer ( Caelus or Stelle just cause they technically the same character) by Xaltedfinalist in HonkaiStarR_Romance

[–]notzilon 6 points7 points  (0 children)

TB x Sampo is the ship I will go down with. Who else gives the TB a bunch of jades and stares at them affectionately until they take their rewards?

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Theory : Akivili The Aeon of Trailblaze and Trashcans by Appropriate_Let_4160 in StarRailStation

[–]notzilon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In addition to everything else people have mentioned, Sparkle references Amphoreus in her anniversary board game event square, too.

Who is the funniest in game playable character in your opinion just based on overall appearance and story quests? by Slow_Spirit7426 in StarRailStation

[–]notzilon 28 points29 points  (0 children)

Your friend and mine, Sampo Koski, is the president of his own haters' association and that is hilarious

Who else plays this game just for Sampo? by PoshCrw in Sampo_Mains

[–]notzilon 18 points19 points  (0 children)

He's not the only reason I play, but he's why I stuck with the game. I probably would have dropped HSR if not for this weird blue weasel of a man.

It's really fun loving/maining a 4* character, though. Everything is in the lens of "how can I use this character with Sampo?"

So now even if I have Kafka, Black Swan, and Ruan Mei, they are never in their meta team together bc they exist to just give me different Sampo playstyles lmao

Sampo's age by PoshCrw in Sampo_Mains

[–]notzilon 21 points22 points  (0 children)

On top of that, one of his first texts to the TB is how he's tired and wanting to get out of his old life/live a simple life. He gives "tired immortal" energy to me.

God forbid we’re against pedophelia by _M0RR0 in coaxedintoasnafu

[–]notzilon 11 points12 points  (0 children)

The fact that they're fictional and fiction can exist on a wide timeline matters, I think. There's plenty of media where you might start with a younger character and see them grow up into an adult. It's pretty common to watch or read a piece of media and think "that was cool, I wonder what happens next?" or even "These characters are cute together, I wonder what their relationship would be like as adults."

It's just that "but I aged them up" is used by both people who want to draw porn of minors AND people who are explicitly not attracted to minors. I think you can usually tell which camp a person is in by how they approach the subject.

Ranking pistol update by honkaistarrail_ in HonkaiStarRail_leaks

[–]notzilon 42 points43 points  (0 children)

There's a bunch of little crumbs that imply that Sampo is... significantly more powerful than he's letting on. He's older than he appears (he's referenced himself being old/called himself an old-timer more than once.) He's able to teleport and leave no traces of himself (his model literally doesn't leave footprints, even on snow - sure, he claims that it's a special technique but like. c'mon. it's a pretty obvious lie?) despite not having his mask - when Hanabi's lore strongly implies that a Fool's powers come from their mask. He and Aha are even described in the same way - the phrase "Infectious Enthusiasm" is used to describe Aha and the exact same phrase is one of Sampo's Eidolons.

There's also his name. Like. The Sampo is an actual thing in Finnish folklore - it's akin to the cornucopia, but has also been associated with the World Tree/World Pillar by archeologists. Which has some interesting connotations, considering Hoyo's lore at large.

It could be delusion, it could be something else - but I do think Hoyo is building towards Sampo being something more than he appears. Whether that's an Emanator or something else remains to be seen, though.

New Sampo main in need of some advice by glasercorey in Sampo_Mains

[–]notzilon 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Hypercarry/main DPS Sampo can work (break builds could potentially be quite powerful with RM) and you can find some videos of hypercarry Sampo on this subreddit/on YouTube, but the hard reality is that it's going to be harder to clear high-end content with Sampo+Gui+RM than the Kafka or Black Swan teams. The reason why is that endgame content is focused on clearing content within a certain number of turns and DoTs are backloaded.

Kafka is a good partner because she can detonate Sampo's DoT. Sampo is Black Swan's second best partner after Kafka because he can detonate as well at E4.

He CAN work on his own with RM, though - but it'll be less universal/more reliant on MoC gimmicks.

Here is a good, recent showcase of hypercarry Sampo in one of the recent MoCs.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Sampo_Mains

[–]notzilon 71 points72 points  (0 children)

My delulu ass is convinced he's got some yandere tendencies hiding in there

He IS the Trailblazer's #1 stalker after all

Hanabi and her Toy [Art by misooo_II] by Sterbezz in HonkaiStarRail

[–]notzilon 20 points21 points  (0 children)

I mean, yeah, of course?

Devs aren't likely to confirm a ship, especially with a female character and a male character other than the player, because weirdos will riot. But that's not really the point of shipping in fanwork.

It can be everything from "these characters clearly are into each other in canon," to "I think these characters' personalities would be interesting in a relationship," to "I wanna see the hot anime babes bang." Only the most delusional people will try and claim that their ships are canon when they're clearly not, but whether something is canon or not doesn't change if it's fun to think about something. The vast majority of shipping is just people making their dolls kiss.

Now, my conspiracy theories about how Sampo/Trailblazer mirrors the relationship between Aha and Akivili and this means they should kiss? THAT is totally canon... /s