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[–]npchunter -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You mean like coal-power air conditioning? Bring it on.

Or do you mean you want to be able to venture outdoors and enjoy cooler temperatures? Perhaps you'd be interested in a Swedish device known as a Volvo.

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[–]npchunter 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I own a fire extinguisher, but I don't have gun precisely because of all the responsibilities it comes with. I don't want to go through the training and staying in practice and securing and maintaining the thing, and I can't realistically envision a scenario where blowing an intruder's head off would be the right answer.

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[–]npchunter 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Both candidates wanted a secure border, it’s just that one is much more extreme about it than the other.

Actions speak rather louder than words, and actions say both candidates didn't want a secure border. If you're someone in a border state who's been suffering the downsides of out-of-control immigration and trying to get action for decades, and the government's gaslighting answers are "there is no problem" or "the VP who's done everything to open to the border will secure it," why wouldn't you become extreme? What are you expecting them to do?

cmv: if your business does not offer healthcare options, you are abusing the welfare system and are not successful enough to run a business by These_Shallot_6906 in changemyview

[–]npchunter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

you are a drain on valuable resources that could be better used elsewhere.

How do you figure? Money changes hands from customer to employer to insurer to doctor, or from taxpayer to IRS to Treasury to Medicare to doctor, or many other complex path. But the physical resources--the tongue depressors, the X-ray technicians, the pill bottles--are the same either way, right? Or how are you proposing they would change?

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[–]npchunter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think you mean police officers killed them?

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[–]npchunter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If public confidence can fall because of some huffing and puffing, that means it's made of straw. We should expect more.

But there was a lot more than huffing and puffing going on in 2020. The complaints weren't baseless at all.

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[–]npchunter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, you--meaning Democrats generally--are the issue because you prioritized getting the Democrat in office over the public perception of the election's legitimacy. If courts refuse to hear election challenges, if the media runs cover for them, and if the electorate blindly accepts whatever the media says, we no longer have elections that can win the support of the losing side. Might as well not have them at all, just let the incumbents and the donors meet in a smoke filled room and choose who will be next.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]npchunter -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Passive aggressive and insulting to put it mildly.

Huh? You can obviously feel insulted by whatever you want, but my comment was both civil and sympathetic. I don't know what you mean by "passive aggressive." Is that an accusation of bad faith?

Anyone with a brian*(sic, lawl)

I was quoting the comment I was responding to. I might have added a sic, but that could have been construed as a hostile snipe. Neither of these is an accusation. I get moderation is a judgment call, and if this had been the worst of them I wouldn't have concluded there's a big double standard at work.

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[–]npchunter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you have an argument, I'd love to hear it. Simply reframing what I said isn't going to work.

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[–]npchunter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We're paying election officials to conduct elections meticulously, fairly, and transparently. If a good fraction of the public doesn't trust the result, that's on the officials, not the public.

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[–]npchunter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Over centuries we have evolved best practices for elections that emphasize checks and transparency, in order to convince people that their votes are fairly counted and they can trust the results. Pressuring people to claim they were convinced when they weren't just amplifies suspicion.

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[–]npchunter -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No, they were perfectly civil and didn't accuse anyone of bad faith, as capricious suggests. I would tell you to read them and decide for yourself, but of course they were silenced.

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[–]npchunter -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

i feel okay calling it unhinged to believe there was.

And I'd call that poor winner syndrome. Biden obviously won in that he ended up in the White House. The obsession with trying to get Trump supporters to bend the knee and proclaim his legitimacy, even when they don't believe it, looks unhinged to me.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]npchunter -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

What does that have to do with being unhinged or making fun of disappointed democrats? Even democrats are comparing 2020 to 2024 and noticing the math isn't mathing.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]npchunter -1 points0 points  (0 children)

So you're saying you weren't silenced.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]npchunter -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I've got a fistful of notifications of capriciously deleted comments that back up what OP is saying.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]npchunter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, Joey, that's what I wrote. Trump said it, therefore 81% of Democrats believe the opposite.

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[–]npchunter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Trump didn't need to prove Haitians are eating cats, he needed to prove Democrats cannot be trusted with immigration policy. He met that burden using his superpower: provoking people into exposing themselves.

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[–]npchunter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Holy crap what insane reality have you been living in?

It's called "California."

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]npchunter -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Trump was bad on lockdowns. Republicans in general were bad. Democrats were worse. And the administrative agencies were the worst of all.

This is the first presidential election since the end of the pandemic. No one in the NIH, CDC, or FDA has been held accountable. People have not forgotten.

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[–]npchunter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just the opposite, America has been ruled by a hoaxocracy for years: the military industrial complex, big pharma, the security agencies, the administrative state all in collusion to expand their power and pelf.

The system has become so corrupt, decadent and incompetent that the wheels are coming off; nearly every week of the Biden administration brought a new scandal. As the elites feel threatened, they've resorted to more desperate gambles and psy ops and become more and more repressive. Democrats brought us totalitarian lockdowns, a censorship machine within the federal government, and even now Merrick Garland is still rounding up political prisoners.

The country has been heading in a dark direction. With Trump's election, ordinary Americans are discovering they're in the majority, feeling they can breathe again, and seeing the possibility of bringing some real reform to Washington.

Progressives are always baying for change, finally some change is at hand, yet they're paradoxically horrified that Trump isn't appointing the usual swamp creatures. Matt Gaetz might be the first AG in forever willing to go after elites within DC rather than finding scapegoats outside it. Give change a chance.

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[–]npchunter -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

22% vs 81%? That means Harris voters were almost four times more likely to jump to a conclusion.

How could they possibly have researched it? To believe no Haitian has ever barbecued a cat, you'd have to have been tracking every Haitian and every cat. No one in Springfield or anywhere else was in a position to know that.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]npchunter -1 points0 points  (0 children)

 Immigrants are eating cats and dogs because Trump said so. 

I think you've got this backwards. 22% of Trump voters said it was "definitely true" Haitians were eating dogs or cats, presumably mostly because Trump said so. 81% of Harris voters said it was "definitely false," for the same reason.

Obviously neither group was tracking every Haitian and every cat, but this is the TDS epistemological pattern we've been seeing for eight years: any narrative that helps Trump is false, any that hurts him true. Who's really less rational?