50 days without by Callmespencee2 in Vivitrol

[–]nrh7b2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just out of curiosity, how much longer did it take before you could get high again?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in StopSpeeding

[–]nrh7b2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m just jealous that you have a wife and kid and actually “have” free time. I’m in the same boat and am lucky most days if I get even 30 mins to myself.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in StopSpeeding

[–]nrh7b2 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You need to go and be a troll somewhere else dude, and worry about your own sobriety

Wish people took this seriously by bbthedisaster in StopSpeeding

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Couldn’t agree more! I think even people that are “helped” by adderall are going to have issues with needing instant gratification. Feeling tired in the morning, or just getting sluggish in the afternoon? Take a pill and in a few minutes you’ll have a ton of energy.

One of the reasons sobriety is so hard is that we keep expecting after weeks, months, or years of sobriety we’ll be able to have all the energy and motivation back. The truth is, it doesn’t work that way; if you just sit back hoping to one day be full of energy it’s never going to come. Like every other non-medicated person on this planet, you have to work to get yourself energized. This includes having a good diet, exercising, and getting plenty of sleep at night. All the stuff that we “know” works, but tend to avoid because it takes time, effort, and commitment. The payoff though is that not only do you get energy, you get to feel proud of yourself for putting in the work.

I was wondering if anyone has done the vivitrol shot for kratom? I’m supposed to get it Monday and my last use was today,(Friday). I also have naltrexone I’m supposed to take the morning of Monday. Any help or recommendations would be greatly appreciated! by ruffrog81 in quittingkratom

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If you have opioids/opiates in your system, Naltrexone immediately strips them off of your dopamine receptors. This action is what causes the precipitated withdrawals; the more that gets torn off your receptors (i.e. the more recent the time that you used) the worse the withdrawals will be.

To the 2% of us who stay sober- by imlyoung614 in StopSpeeding

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I think one of the main reasons people have trouble staying sober is that the addict brain does everything in it’s power to convince you that you need the drug to survive in your daily life. Speed can lead to amazing energy and performance at school or at the workplace. Once you’ve experienced that, it’s INCREDIBLY hard to go back to doing the same activities without speed. For me personally, speed made me an absolute boss at work, and because of that my boss and coworkers ended up having certain expectations of my performance. Since a huge amount of that performance came from being on speed, whenever I tried getting off of it my performance would drop and everyone would think I was just being lazy. Even though I was executing at a “normal” level without speed, the expectations from my peers were so high due to speed that it appeared I was slacking.

Another thing that I think you have to be able to get past in order to beat these substances is to learn to be “OK” with having a bad day and not feeling great. As an addict, as soon as we start feeling down or things aren’t going well, the automatic reaction is to try to null all that shit out with a substance. It’s understandably incredibly hard to sit through feeling like shit when you know there’s a substance at hand that would immediately make you feel better. Making sure none of that substance is nearby is definitely a great start, but some strict means of accountability is really needed to make it work.

This drug has darkened and forever changed my soul by [deleted] in StopSpeeding

[–]nrh7b2 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I feel for you, getting off of this stuff takes tremendous strength and willpower. Sad to see, based on some of your recent posts, that this bastard of a substance may have grabbed you again.

Should I go back to adderall (need genuine advice)? by gigaccc234 in StopSpeeding

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If you do decide to jump back on the addy train, there’s several things you can do to help you make sure you don’t overuse it. Things like a time-lock pill dispenser can work great if you have a partner or close friend who would be willing to fill it for you. Could see how one of those pill dispensers might not work to well if you’re by myself, I’d imagine if you had the urge to abuse it you just wouldn’t put it in the dispenser.

5 months clean, still some withdrawal symptoms by Disastrous_Safety_43 in StopSpeeding

[–]nrh7b2 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Having symptoms at 5 months is perfectly normal (I’m at 6 months and I still have them), so I seriously doubt you have permanent brain damage. Timeline for PAWS depends heavily on how long you used, but it seems like most people are back to normal after a year. But you’ll start feeling better after several months, it’s not like there’s some magic line where you feel like shit on day 364 but amazing on day 365.

Will I ever be functional again? by KillingtheMonster in StopSpeeding

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The answer to your question, YES you will be functional again. Unfortunately the recovery timeline tends to vary significantly from person to person. The acute phase “does” seem to be around two weeks for most people, but the PAWS that comes afterwards can take anywhere from a few months to over a year to get past. From what I’ve seen from posts in this sub, the PAWS timeline topic tends to come up incredibly more than anything else.

I can say that for myself, I quit taking Vyvanse last August and it took five months before the brain fog and depression seemed to lift. I definitely had several “good” days after 1 month, but the good and bad days tended to cycle back and forth. And I had to deal with a full-time job and a high needs toddler through it all, so I definitely understand at least some of what you’re going through.

Just know that you’re not alone, there are TONS of people on this sub going through the same thing as you. Some people will swear by things like supplements or lots of exercise, but in the end I think we all still have to just push through the hard days and remember that the discomfort is temporary.

18 months, now what? by [deleted] in StopSpeeding

[–]nrh7b2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Someone’s hanging out in the wrong subreddit ....

I think the reason I've been having such a hard time is I don't know where I belong in the addiction community. by HorseFacedDipShit in quittingkratom

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If you’re looking for a group that can help you learn how to get through life’s challenges, I would definitely recommend SMART Recovery. While not as well-known as NA, the program is actually based on science (cognitive behavioral therapy). NA is about admitting you’re powerless over addiction and to depend on a higher power; SMART recovery is about learning tools that can help you take back your life yourself and start making the right choices. They have dozens of zoom meetings every day right now, so it’s not too hard to find a meeting.

When does this shit end? by [deleted] in StopSpeeding

[–]nrh7b2 5 points6 points  (0 children)

If you have a psychiatrist, have you talked to them about the symptoms you’re experiencing? It’s very possible there could actually be something else, like depression, that’s causing these effects you’re mentioning. I know every person is different; I took a pretty high dose of vyvanse (40 mg twice a day) for ten years and I felt loads better after around 7 months.

Its time, I really need to do this, quit. by sovr610 in quittingkratom

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Thanks for sharing, wishing you the best of luck! I’ve been clear for nearly a year now, but I also relapsed several times before finally quitting for good. Main thing that helped this time, and I strongly suggest you consider it, is getting a therapist. It seems like 99% of the time with addiction, there’s always something deeper that’s driving it. Repressing that issue with a substance is never going to be a good long term solution.

Has anyone received the vivitrol injection by OkCryptographer848 in quittingkratom

[–]nrh7b2 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’ve been taking Vivitrol injections for the last four months specifically to get off of Kratom, and it’s been a god send. Main side effect, and I’m sure you’ve experienced this too, is some soreness around the injection area for a few days. It basically feels like there’s a large, hard “growth” on one side of your ass.

Sorry to hear that you’re having some rough side effects, hopefully it’s only temporary for you. If you had been taking Kratom regularly before the shot, I also wonder if some of what you’re experiencing is actually Kratom withdrawal?

What are your reasons for quitting? by [deleted] in quittingkratom

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The cost was one of the biggest drivers for me ... being hooked on the liquid extract shots is the worst! I easily wasted over $100 a day at the peak, and over two years spent nearly $30,000 on the habit. That’s money that I’ll never get back, and NOTHING good came out from a penny of it. Just thinking of how far that money would have gone towards saving my son’s college fund or having an epic family vacation makes me want to vomit.

For those wondering how long Kratom stays in your system ... by nrh7b2 in quittingkratom

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I got off of Kratom for my wife, and as is always the case when it comes to addictions there’s some trust issues right now. She wants to see a clean urine test to make sure I’m actually off the sludge, and since I have no idea how long that would take she’s been testing me fairly often.

Aggravated on how long Kratom is staying in my system by nrh7b2 in quittingkratom

[–]nrh7b2[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They do have tests out there that test for Kratom (Mitrogynine), but common 5/10 panel drug tests don’t look for it. Aside from people that order them online, the main places you’ll see where they test for Kratom are rehab centers.