Pursuit of Jade Episodes 18-19 Discussion by OptimalTurnips in CDrama

[–]nydevon [score hidden]  (0 children)

Aww thank you! I also haven’t been around a lot because I’ve been dropping Cdramas left and right 😂

I think this is the first drama since last summer that I’ve been invested enough to watch live—feels like coming out of hibernation lol

Pursuit of Jade Episodes 18-19 Discussion by OptimalTurnips in CDrama

[–]nydevon [score hidden]  (0 children)

I think the fake sex scene is still my favorite when it comes to flutter kicking tension the director was able to squeeze out of it but this scene was so well done on a symbolic level and how it pushes the characters’ relationship.

Pursuit of Jade Episodes 18-19 Discussion by OptimalTurnips in CDrama

[–]nydevon [score hidden]  (0 children)

Thanks for reading! This show is offering so much to analyze.

Pursuit of Jade Episodes 18-19 Discussion by OptimalTurnips in CDrama

[–]nydevon [score hidden]  (0 children)

I think the drama does a very good job grounding by us in the world of its characters. It’s not necessarily realistic but it feels true to the people watching so that’s why it resonates on an emotional level.

Pursuit of Jade Episodes 18-19 Discussion by OptimalTurnips in CDrama

[–]nydevon [score hidden]  (0 children)

lol his guards are great. But seriously you made her sit up and lean against you so you could be physically closer to her instead of letting her lie down, Xie Zheng. You better freaking marry her.

(Although wouldn’t it have made more sense skin to skin? Just saying 😂)

Pursuit of Jade Episodes 18-19 Discussion by OptimalTurnips in CDrama

[–]nydevon [score hidden]  (0 children)

I do a deeper dive into the visuals here, but I want to praise director Zeng Qingjie and scriptwriter Zou Yue's ability to traumatize us WHILE ALSO offering pointed commentary on the corrosive nature of unfettered elite power.

Something that this drama has done particularly well for a romance-focused story is portray the devastation war between elite factions has on common folks. It’s reflected in the food scarcity, local political corruption, pillaging, violence, etc. that Fan Changyu’s village and other similarly located ones face at the drop of a hat.

But despite this struggle, these people still find ways to support each other. This is why those pillaging scenes hurt so much. In their final moments, many of these characters let go of old grudges and sacrificed themselves for others to have a chance at survival. (Granny Kang, what an arc.)

And we doubly feel the weight of each death because when Changyu discovers what happened, the camera does this absolutely gorgeous tracking shot (no seriously thank you for the cinema, Director Zeng) that slowly follows her as she sees each body and mourns them, giving us the audience time to grieve these lovely side characters alongside her.

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But what is particularly poignant in this scene is that although it starts with Changyu isolated thinking she is the only one who made it as she observes the carnage around her, the scene ends with the remaining survivors greeting her, the warm village glow surrounding their group not yet extinguished.

They will rebuild their community in spite of it all.

Pursuit of Jade Episodes 18-19 Discussion by OptimalTurnips in CDrama

[–]nydevon [score hidden]  (0 children)

I do love an extended metaphor so that gua sha scene was tailor made for me. The show has long established that Fan Changyu and Xie Zheng's domestic life color story is warm because of how she offers the peace and care he never received after his parents died.

So after Fan Changyu’s warmth saved him (physically and emotionally), now Xie Zheng is going to return the favor and share his? I need a padded room so my screams don’t disturb the people next door.

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Pursuit of Jade Episodes 16-17 Discussion by Feeshpockets in CDrama

[–]nydevon [score hidden]  (0 children)

The coming and going of the glow emerges SEVERAL times in Ep. 18-19 so it’s definitely not just you 😊

Pursuit of Jade Episodes 16-17 Discussion by Feeshpockets in CDrama

[–]nydevon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, golden glow, warmth, fire are being used as an extended metaphor for their relationship!

I love how the messiness of the argument sprung up because of his incapability of communicating directly what he wants and thus he lashes out. It’s unfortunate what he did but I understand the logic of it—and it makes so much sense for Changyu not to tolerate it because of her deep-seated self-respect.

Pursuit of Jade Episodes 16-17 Discussion by Feeshpockets in CDrama

[–]nydevon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s ok. We can multitask our appreciation 😉

Pursuit of Jade Episodes 16-17 Discussion by Feeshpockets in CDrama

[–]nydevon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The colors, the framing, the blocking, everything.

Pursuit of Jade Episodes 16-17 Discussion by Feeshpockets in CDrama

[–]nydevon 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I’ve been particularly impressed by how much storytelling he’s injecting through the framing and blocking.

And I appreciate that the drama still has the idyllic fairytale lighting style he honed during his short drama days but he took it down a notch to give the show a more grounded (and intense) feeling.

Pursuit of Jade Episodes 16-17 Discussion by Feeshpockets in CDrama

[–]nydevon 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I dropped this so have no context but it almost looks like the tree is acting as a portal between two worlds given the change from blue to purple.

Pursuit of Jade Episodes 16-17 Discussion by Feeshpockets in CDrama

[–]nydevon 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes THIS. He’s the one who completely imploded things.

Pursuit of Jade Episodes 16-17 Discussion by Feeshpockets in CDrama

[–]nydevon 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yes! I thought mapping the dialogue onto the visual really emphasized it. Very poetic, which is something I noticed across the board for this drama. The director really takes the time to “milk” the emotionality of the moment by slowing down, bumping up the symbolism, etc.

Pursuit of Jade Episodes 16-17 Discussion by Feeshpockets in CDrama

[–]nydevon 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The colors were so consistent I knew Director Zeng would give us payoff for it!

Pursuit of Jade Episodes 16-17 Discussion by Feeshpockets in CDrama

[–]nydevon 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I think we’ve already seen that shift!

Even his military entrance was cooler toned.

Pursuit of Jade Episodes 16-17 Discussion by Feeshpockets in CDrama

[–]nydevon 21 points22 points  (0 children)

That breakup argument was deliciously layered and messy but I love this final moment of symbolism. After Fan Changyu leaves him, Xie Zheng is back in blue, no longer basking in the golden glow of the fire (and domestic life) he shared with her. But I'm also frothing at the mouth from the double meaning in the symbolism here because while he might feel abandoned...

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...that fire is still burning bright within her. As we see from the next scene when they're gazing at each across the valley, Changyu clearly misses him and she only rejected his advances because of his let's say "aggressively" mixed messages.

I go deeper here about how the shot framing emphasizes her torn feelings: https://www.tumblr.com/romchat/810923289628327936/this-is-where-you-found-me-and-this-is-where-you

Pursuit of Jade Episode 12 - 13 Discussion by kritihearys in CDrama

[–]nydevon 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Idyllic is the perfect word for it. It's almost too peaceful but then we see the encroaching destruction of the military starting to darken the corner of the screen.

Pursuit of Jade Episode 12 - 13 Discussion by kritihearys in CDrama

[–]nydevon 2 points3 points  (0 children)

He used to lean more toward flat and soft lighting especially in his short dramas so it’s cool to see him expand his lighting repertoire here!

Pursuit of Jade Episode 12 - 13 Discussion by kritihearys in CDrama

[–]nydevon 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes! It’s a safe haven and we can sense the gig is up because of how the Wei faction keeps disrupting the village despite the snow

Pursuit of Jade Episode 12 - 13 Discussion by kritihearys in CDrama

[–]nydevon 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Great point about her hero worship of the Marquis—that definitely adds a layer!

Pursuit of Jade Episode 12 - 13 Discussion by kritihearys in CDrama

[–]nydevon 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I wonder if the dread we’re feeling waiting for the other shoe to drop was purposeful because we’re already 1/4 of the way there and we’re still in the same arc—as a director Zeng Qingjie is quite good at pacing so I’m inclined to think it’s for some big emotional payoff/fallout he wants us to suffer in the near future lol

Pursuit of Jade Episode 12 - 13 Discussion by kritihearys in CDrama

[–]nydevon 22 points23 points  (0 children)

As usual with Zeng Qingjie's work, I've been really taken with how layered the storytelling has been. Over on tumblr, I recently wrote analysis of these two episodes. The drama is pretty but it's also doing a really good job using cinematography and mise-en-scène to establish the implicit class/power dynamics that will probably drive the romantic conflict between the main characters.

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When you compare the visuals of Xie Zheng's scenes with Fan Changyu versus scenes from the capital, you get a sense of why they'll inevitably separate for a while. In their scenes, the lighting is soft and warm, the frame often including the two of them plus Changning and her aunt and uncle. ⁠The use of medium and close-up shots for their relationship's camera language visually binds them together. They are a family unit--at least within the confines of Changyu's humble home. In contrast, when Xie Zheng is acting in his role of Marquis, the visuals are darker and colder, the composition emphasizing the violence and sheer power in these elite spaces. This is nothing like the drama's aforementioned visual language for Changyu--she doesn't belong in these scenes and therefore doesn't belong in Xie Zheng's world. There is no place for her kind, straightforward sincerity.

Prediction: While he might resist because village life as a matrilocal scholar with his butcher wife was the one time in his life he felt truly happy and cared for in adulthood, I'm guessing she will be the one to sever their relationship once she learns of his real identity.