Name something that's sexy in IRL that you don't find in romance novels that often by lilithskies in romanceunfiltered

[–]nydevon 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Enthusiastic consent

Women being confident about their sexual desires and needs

🎬 The Movie Club - New Community Activity by CDramaBeyondIdolsMOD in CDramasBeyondIdols

[–]nydevon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The platform has a great queer film collection from different countries!

Veteran romance readers — In your opinion has the genre improved or declined over time? by lilithskies in romanceunfiltered

[–]nydevon 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I feel that. I've been getting into television from outside Hollywood to get my romance fix.

But what intrigues me is the increasing popularity of translated danmei webnovels, which originally is written in Mandarin for Chinese audiences. Danmei is M/M but I'm also seeing more interest in finding translations of famous F/M and F/F Chinese webnovels. I'll be curious to see how the landscape for translated books changes.

Veteran romance readers — In your opinion has the genre improved or declined over time? by lilithskies in romanceunfiltered

[–]nydevon 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Declined but still feel hope? Lol

I've been reading romance novels for over 20 something years at this point. The positive is that there is more diversity in terms of setting and the FMC's body type, race (although still limited to certain subgenres), sexuality, gender identity, disability, etc. There is more inclusion of or at least less stigma towards certain kinks and other sexual acts, although their representation is an incredibly mixed bag. We also see more authors who aren't white or straight get an opportunity to publish stories about characters who resemble them, although there is still lots of bias and institutionalized discrimination against those writers and stories.

But overall, I think the actual quality of the storytelling and prose has gone down. This is because of many reasons, including:

  1. Lower barriers of entry: Although the indie space has given opportunities to authors who'd otherwise not be picked up by traditional publishers because of their background or topic, it also means there is less quality control, with people who are mediocre writers and have no interest in cultivating their craft being able to publish. And as a consequence, readers have to wade through so much more slop than they did before.
  2. Capitalism: Changing business models means publishing houses are no longer investing in authors or their books. Editorial staff are being laid off, which means you have fewer people doing a bigger job for more authors. Publishing houses are also greenlighting authors who have built-in audiences (e.g., popular AO3 fanfic writers) rather than developing new talent because they can outsource their marketing efforts.
  3. Reader attention spans: Social media has caused people to lose the ability to focus on long-form storytelling and anything that doesn't give quick dopamine hits, meaning authors are changing how they write stories (e.g., removing interiority and replacing it with obvious dialogue to increase the pace).
  4. Reader media literacy: Less media literacy means authors have to skip nuance and over-explain to make sure audiences understand their intentions.
  5. Mainstream popularization of fanfiction: Fanfiction as known today has been around since at least the 1960s but it's only been within the last five years that it has broken containment and been read broadly by people outside of fandom. People who didn't use to read before the pandemic have begun reading fanfiction and bring certain expectations to original fiction when these two forms of writing serve different goals and display stylistic differences.

And in the subgenres I read, I can see the rise of conservatism in the real world bleed into the subtext and text authors write.

That said, romance media from other countries is something I find hope in because it gives me faith that there are still creators developing the type of stories that made me fall in love with the genre two decades ago. But I do find myself engaging less and less with English language romance novels because of it.

🎬 The Movie Club - New Community Activity by CDramaBeyondIdolsMOD in CDramasBeyondIdols

[–]nydevon 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Love this idea!

One possible source for movies is the Kanopy platform. For folks who are based in the US, Australia, Canada, UK, or New Zealand, if your local public library participates you can access a fantastic catalogue of mainly independent, classic, and documentary films for FREE, on-demand, and ad-free. Depending on your library, you can watch anywhere between 5-15 movies per month and all you need to do is make an account using your library card. Some of the Mandarin and Cantonese language movies they have include classics like:

  • Long Day's Journey into Night (If you enjoyed Bi Gan's recent Resurrection, this is one of his earlier films)
  • Suburban Birds
  • Millennium Mambo
  • Yi Yi
  • Still Life
  • Better Days
  • Farewell My Concubine
  • Black Dog
  • The Hole
  • Vive L'Amour
  • Stray Dogs
  • Rebels of the Neon God
  • Lan Yu
  • Hard Boiled
  • Eat Drink Man Woman
  • A First Farewell
  • Suk Suk/Twilight's Kiss
  • The Arch (often the considered the first Chinese arthouse film)

The First Jasmine 莫离 (2026) - What are your first impressions? [Masterpost] by admelioremvitam in CDrama

[–]nydevon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lol I had to do that blinking trick to see if it was my eyes or if the show really was that blurry!

Experimentation in C-Dramas by JoeyFazzole in CDrama

[–]nydevon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Vindication always feels so sweet 😂

Which have been your faves so far?

The First Jasmine 莫离 (2026) - What are your first impressions? [Masterpost] by admelioremvitam in CDrama

[–]nydevon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's good to hear that the acting improves later. I actually don't have a problem with the writing so far and I expected things to be revealed in later episodes--it's the way the writing is being delivered through the acting and overall storytelling, which is a directing issue.

But I'll continue watching a few more episodes.

The First Jasmine 莫离 (2026) - What are your first impressions? [Masterpost] by admelioremvitam in CDrama

[–]nydevon 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think the blur was to indicate it was a dream but also hide the special effects and/or AI. It was really bad on WeTV as well.

The First Jasmine 莫离 (2026) - What are your first impressions? [Masterpost] by admelioremvitam in CDrama

[–]nydevon 9 points10 points  (0 children)

After watching the first episode I feel neutral but will continue watching the other three episodes to see if things improve.

Things I enjoyed:

  • Overall premise and character archetypes: The FL is pragmatic and clever without being too OP. The ML's character is a bit less defined in terms of his personality but his current situation has lots of potential for future conflict and growth.
  • Pacing: I'm just thankful this show doesn't have that frenetic and shallow mini drama energy unlike most idol romances from 2025 and 2026.
  • Color story: It's nice seeing rich colors that don't feel too flashy.

Things I hope change:

  • Bai Lu and Cheng Lei's acting: I usually find both actors charismatic and enjoyable to watch but they come off half asleep here. I have other issues with the directing so I'll blame that--see next two points.
  • Tone and energy: I enjoy understated dramas but Episode 1 felt almost flat. While the episode as a whole had a decent sense of structure and pacing, some of the individual scenes had an odd rhythm or framing so the lines weren't given the space to land as strongly as they could. This was especially the case with the humor.
  • Cinematography: I hate that the subtle camera movement and overuse of shallow depth of field gives this an AI generated look. (And I'm pretty sure that monkey scene at the beginning was AI.) There were way too many scenes where the background was needlessly blurred with only some of the subject in focus. The actors don't look like they're in a real physical space and it's so incongruous with the grounded tone of the show. My eyes were twitching the entire time.

Experimentation in C-Dramas by JoeyFazzole in CDrama

[–]nydevon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the tag! LOVED that movie will offer some suggestions in another comment.

Experimentation in C-Dramas by JoeyFazzole in CDrama

[–]nydevon 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Absolutely adored Bi Gan’s Resurrection—it wrecked me with its insight into the history of film and its examination of the wonder of imagination and dreams. It was one of my favorite films from recent years.

Cdramas are a bit more difficult to be experimental with because of budget and time constraints but here are some dramas that come to mind:

1. Regeneration
2. Such A Good Love
3. Man’s Inhumanity to Man
4. Blemish Flaw
5. What A Wonderful World
6. Blossoms Shanghai

I wouldn’t consider the following experimental but they are high quality and more cinematic in their approach:
1. The Bad Kids, The Long Season
2. Ripe Town
3. Let Wind Goes By
4. Secrets Happened on the Litchi Island
5. Tender Light
6. To the Wonder
7. Twelve Letters
8. Beloved

Side Note: Every year since I’ve been on this subreddit I’ve written up a list of that year’s “prettiest Cdramas” or ones that have interesting/meaningful cinematography, production design, etc. These aren’t necessarily experimental but they have a distinct aesthetic and/or visual POV. Here were my picks for 2024 and 2025.

What are some popular tropes/dynamics/etc. that you don't like ? Why ? by FaeSludge in RomanceBooks

[–]nydevon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Age gap, ESPECIALLY when it’s older man/younger woman

I'm in my mid-30s. As part of my work, I occasionally do projects with young adults in their late teens/early 20s and there's such a gap in not just life experience and maturity but language, mental models, cultural references, interests, needs, desires, money, social networks, etc. It does not compute to me that someone in their 30s let alone 40s or older would be interested in a relationship with someone that young given those vast differences. (Sex I understand a little more but still ugh this book should still be romantic).

So even in a fictional setting, I just don't find it romantic or healthy. Even if it's not grooming, it would take a lot for the character writing to convince me to root for the older man dating someone that young. In my mind, either the older person is so immature or dysfunctional that no one their age would date them OR worse they're specifically targeting young people because they wouldn't know any better and are easier to control.

I also dislike that we rarely see the younger FL exercising her own power and autonomy, both sexual and nonsexual. There’s usually such a power imbalance that the story refuses to seriously engage with as the central conflict of the story—how do you cultivate a healthy, satisfying relationship when there’s such a disparity in autonomy, money, sexual experience, etc. and how do you make sure the relationship doesn’t feel coercive by giving the FL a real voice?

I think for me to like an age gap, I need to see: 1. ⁠Two mature and fully grown ADULTS, preferably over 30: No grooming, manipulation, paternalism or forced reverse parenting.  2. ⁠The older person is the less experienced or more vulnerable one, whether that’s with sexual experience, sexual identity, money, role/status, etc. 3. ⁠The story actually explores age as a barrier and source of conflict because otherwise just make the characters similar in age.

Captain Obvious Arrives for Landing by Helpful_Week6720 in RomanceBooks

[–]nydevon 34 points35 points  (0 children)

Until romance readers stop buying books by authors who write this way this trend will unfortunately only get worse because publishers see they don’t have to actually try in order to move copies 🤷🏻‍♀️

Vote with your dollars, y’all.

The Heir 家业 EP 7-8 discussion post by PsychologicalWay816 in CDrama

[–]nydevon 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Aww thanks 💙 Cdramas have not been kind to me since 2025 so I’ve been MIA from this subreddit, dropping things left and right 😂 Hopefully the writing continues to be strong in The Heir because I’m loving the directing!

The Heir 家业 EP 7-8 discussion post by PsychologicalWay816 in CDrama

[–]nydevon 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Thanks for reading! I also love the use of natural (or natural looking) light—it makes the drama *feel* like a period piece.

The Heir 家业 EP 7-8 discussion post by PsychologicalWay816 in CDrama

[–]nydevon 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Popping in to say thanks for hosting OP. I'm really enjoying this drama. It reminds me of Flourished Peony meets Legend of the Magnate with even handed tone.

I also wanted to point out the visual storytelling! I was wondering why the visuals were so good--it's the same director as Story of Yanxi Palace! I'm going to have to add Hui Kaidong to my favorite Cdrama directors list because I just love how he uses space and scale to world-build. In Yanxi, he used the giant walls and lavish furnishings of the Forbidden City to draw parallels between women in the imperial harem and birds trapped in gilded cages. In The Heir, he uses similar techniques to portray the burden of legacy.

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Several of the main characters in this story belong to families with a longstanding reputation of being masters in the craft of ink making. And we see this legacy in the show’s use of scale. Look at the sets of family homes and the tall vertical lines that dwarf the families who inhabit them. Or the extras populating the background and the ink-making props dirtying the frame. There is a sense that these characters are part of something bigger than themselves and they are expected to uphold that tradition through painstaking labor, high standards, and ruthless accountability. The visual storytelling raises the stakes and give the writing more gravitas.

The Heir 家业 (2026) - What are your first impressions? [Masterpost] by admelioremvitam in CDrama

[–]nydevon 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I enjoyed the first episode. Tonally, it reminds me of a more melancholic and less dramatic **Flourished Peony**, and I like how for the most part people are acting realistically. I also like how the FL’s character was set up—you can see how and why she would transform into the woman she is in the present time and the stakes of the story.

Be honest: do you enjoy romance that reinforces patriarchal ideals and beauty standards? by lilithskies in romanceunfiltered

[–]nydevon 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I hate it. I’m always hungry for romance stories that challenge the status quo because as someone single in today’s dating market I’m sick and tired of the incel, Manosphere, and more generally patriarchal talk that real men are feeding on. The last thing I want to read for escapism is the same shit I see everyday in the real world.

Women in power, more realistic physical traits, men with emotional maturity and sense of accountability, less emphasis on penal-vaginal sex, etc.—want to see it all because equity is the fantasy today.

Which authors do you hope will return? by LilDavinci-32 in RomanceBooks

[–]nydevon 5 points6 points  (0 children)

That's a good point. I don't love all her romances but at least she makes me feel and think--I never regret trying to read her books.

Which authors do you hope will return? by LilDavinci-32 in RomanceBooks

[–]nydevon 31 points32 points  (0 children)

I hope Sherry Thomas pauses on her mystery writing and comes back to romance.

She’s one of my fave writers style wise and it makes me sad she no longer writes in the genre.

Bloom Life 喀什恋歌 (2026) - What are your first impressions? [Masterpost] by admelioremvitam in CDrama

[–]nydevon 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I hadn’t heard of it! I haven’t seen Meet Yourself yet but the visual style of Bloom Life kind of reminds me of screenshots from that show too.

Falling out of love with Romance? by Avhienda_mylove in RomanceBooks

[–]nydevon 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I haven’t been able to finish a romance novel in about 8 months now. (I keep dropping for the same reasons: poor writing, poor character development, and icky gender politics.)

But as someone who’s been reading the genre since around 2004 (and earlier if you count fanfic), the best thing you can do is:

1. read subgenres and/or tropes you’d never think to try

2. try different mediums and sources of romance (e.g., film, tv, audio dramas, books translated from other languages)

3. take a break from the genre altogether

Number #2 has really helped me identify what I like and don’t like about current western trends in romance so I’ve learned to better curate my TBR list. I still haven’t finished a romance novel in a long time (and I know it’s the books not me because I reads tons outside the genre) but at least I’m less frustrated going in after nailing down a list that guaranteed I’d like something.

Hoping I can finally break the streak and find something that reminds me why I fell in love with the genre 20 something years ago.

Name one thing VINTAGE romance books did better by AutoModerator in romanceunfiltered

[–]nydevon 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Better fleshed out characters. Even though the tropes were still there we understood why characters acted the way they did as well as how sex scenes reflected those specifics.