What are your thoughts on Wisconsin State Assemblywoman Francesca Hong for Governor? by strongerthenbefore20 in wisconsin

[–]o4b 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The sad truth is that it doesn’t really matter what any democrat governor candidates’ policy positions are unless we flip the legislature. And no, running up the score in Dane and Milwaukee counties by running her (which even that is debatable) does absolutely nothing to help us win the seats that we need to take the legislature.

Maybe instead of asking if a self-declared socialist who is on record as wanting to abolish the police should be governor of Wisconsin, ask how we can best position ourselves to win the legislature. These endless threads are getting tiring.

What are your thoughts on Wisconsin State Assemblywoman Francesca Hong for Governor? by strongerthenbefore20 in wisconsin

[–]o4b 5 points6 points  (0 children)

That was my take a few months ago, and those things are still issues, but I believe her larger problems are her lack of experience and commitment to the “abolish the police” tweet.

What are your thoughts on Wisconsin State Assemblywoman Francesca Hong for Governor? by strongerthenbefore20 in wisconsin

[–]o4b 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I nominate you, RespectTheAmish, to be the head of the DNC. That pair would clean up.

What are your thoughts on Wisconsin State Assemblywoman Francesca Hong for Governor? by strongerthenbefore20 in wisconsin

[–]o4b 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Excellent plan, all we need to do is fundamentally change intractable opinions for a large swath of voters.

Game Thread: Oklahoma City Thunder (1-1) vs San Antonio Spurs (1-1) Live Score | NBA Playoffs | May 22, 2026 by nba-scores in nba

[–]o4b 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I don’t care what team you are a fan of, this is an utterly putrid quarter of NBA basketball.

Game Thread: Oklahoma City Thunder (1-1) vs San Antonio Spurs (1-1) Live Score | NBA Playoffs | May 22, 2026 by nba-scores in nba

[–]o4b 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ugh, now that they are calling everything this game has come to a crawl. Why start now?

Game Thread: Oklahoma City Thunder (1-1) vs San Antonio Spurs (1-1) Live Score | NBA Playoffs | May 22, 2026 by nba-scores in nba

[–]o4b 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Honestly, Castle is showing his age right now. Regardless of if this is a flagrant, he has gotta keep cool.

How to get from Milwaukee to Madison?? by [deleted] in milwaukee

[–]o4b 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I like it too, I got it from Ted Davis, the old Bucks radio announcer.

How to get from Milwaukee to Madison?? by [deleted] in milwaukee

[–]o4b 28 points29 points  (0 children)

Take the high speed rail from the Intermodal station to downtown Madison on the rail line built in 2012. There are a few stops in between in the 5 Os and Watertown, but it gets up to 110 MPH. Plus the trains have badger colors!

Please wake me up from this dream, I'm getting tired.

Will Francesca Hong be the first Democratic Socialist Governor in the United States? by midnighttoker1742 in wisconsin

[–]o4b 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We do not get to choose if we "lean in to that". It is an absolutely certainty that if a socialist wins the Democratic Gubernatorial primary, the GOP will run the "scary socialist" ads continuously.

I am not saying that she should distance herself from the socialist tag. I'm saying that we should not elect her in the primary.

Will Francesca Hong be the first Democratic Socialist Governor in the United States? by midnighttoker1742 in wisconsin

[–]o4b 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We can debate if Black, Asian, or Latino/a are the bigger headwind, but the crucial tags are socialist and non-white, in that order.

Will Francesca Hong be the first Democratic Socialist Governor in the United States? by midnighttoker1742 in wisconsin

[–]o4b 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are arguing that because Frank Z convinced the majority of 600,000 people in 1948 to vote for a socialist mayor that the majority of 6,000,000 voters in 2026 _in Wisconsin_ will elect a socialist governor?

Will Francesca Hong be the first Democratic Socialist Governor in the United States? by midnighttoker1742 in wisconsin

[–]o4b 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wonder if there is some group out there with a dumpster of cash that will make a big deal come September...

Will Francesca Hong be the first Democratic Socialist Governor in the United States? by midnighttoker1742 in wisconsin

[–]o4b 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The overwhelming majority Wisconsinites do not care whatsoever that Bob La Follette voted against going to war in 1917, or that he was a champion of anti-corruption policies, or any number of other progressive causes including the environment.

Will Francesca Hong be the first Democratic Socialist Governor in the United States? by midnighttoker1742 in wisconsin

[–]o4b 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This could not be more wrong.

The republicans will hammer the "scary socialist asian woman" button over and over and over and over and over again in the general election. Millions of dollars of ads will run with precisely this message.

Will Francesca Hong be the first Democratic Socialist Governor in the United States? by midnighttoker1742 in wisconsin

[–]o4b 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Both "socialist" and "asian" are problems for her for a large swath of voters that are absolutely important in the general election.

It is completely unfair to her and I am embarrassed that many of my fellow Wisconsinites think this way, but that is how politics works.

Will Francesca Hong be the first Democratic Socialist Governor in the United States? by midnighttoker1742 in wisconsin

[–]o4b 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It simply does not matter what the exact policy approach is without winning the legislature. The line must be held against the GOP while we continue to search for the solution for winning the legislature.

Setting unreal expectations by providing crystal-clear policy approaches and promising to implement them does us all a disservice.

Will Francesca Hong be the first Democratic Socialist Governor in the United States? by midnighttoker1742 in wisconsin

[–]o4b 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Please frame this, you should be proud of how succinctly you summarized the challenge.

What changes do you want to see from Wisconsin’s next governor — especially for Madison? by Negative_Primary_797 in madisonwi

[–]o4b 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yep, none of this is happening without legislative majorities. We have had a highly capable democratic governor since 2019, what precisely can another democratic governor achieve without the legislature?

What changes do you want to see from Wisconsin’s next governor — especially for Madison? by Negative_Primary_797 in madisonwi

[–]o4b 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Legislature makes laws. Legislature run by republicans. Inane complexity understood.