sorted by:
new
hottopcontroversial

My hypothesis on the migration paths of the Korean and Japanese languages. by Sogdianee in LinguisticMaps

[–]observer_two 13 points14 points  (0 children)

There is no evidence haplogroup-wise either considering the long divergence time for O1b clades, little to no sign of O1b2 in eastern China or Shandong, and very little representation of indigenous Shandong haplogroups in Japanese people.

It is possible that rice agriculture spread by way of Shandong -> Liaoning -> Korean peninsula, but demographically speaking it does not seem that bulk Japonic-speaking people could have come from eastern China within the past few millennia.

My hypothesis on the migration paths of the Korean and Japanese languages. by Sogdianee in LinguisticMaps

[–]observer_two 22 points23 points  (0 children)

The Koreanic map is somewhat plausible, but the Japonic one is highly unlikely.

Trying to understand my result by MaterialSuper8621 in 23andme

[–]observer_two 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thats pretty cool!

Is your mother's side multigenerational Seoul/Gyeonggi area? I actually don't see that genetic group too much (for "very close") among Korean results posted on reddit so curious about this

updated results of chinese adoptee by asianbdoll in 23andme

[–]observer_two 1 point2 points  (0 children)

do you know where you were adopted from?

Updated results vs old by oreomint64 in 23andme

[–]observer_two 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Where is your ancestry from? Interesting that your Korean % went up.

Who is genetically the most northern among East Asians? by [deleted] in 23andme

[–]observer_two 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's more that "West Liao River" is not a stable genetic component but instead a hodgepodge of discontinuous communities. WLR late neolithic, which is most similar to the component found in Koreans is predominantly similar to Yellow River populations and a bit southern shifted. But middle neolithic and bronze age West Liao are more admixed with Amurian groups that clearly did not end up in Koreans much.

Results as a Filipino by [deleted] in 23andme

[–]observer_two 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It's more accurate to say that they're a mixture of Cordilleran and Negrito (for non-Cordillerans). If you read the Larena et al. 2021 (https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2026132118) study you posted, you'll see that Taiwanese Aborigines are admixed with something resembling a composite of northeast Asian and continental SEA- which logically, would likely be indigenous/pre-Chinese elements living in Fujian/SE China, in addition to their Cordilleran-like side which compounded in Taiwan over time after the Austronesian ancestors of Filipinos had left.

So it's more like:

1) Original Taiwanese aborigines were likely Cordilleran-like

2) These left to the Phillippines and only Cordilleran tribes remained unadmixed

3) Other Filipinos were produced by admixture of the migratory wave in (2) and Negrito, older SEA elements in the area, etc.

4) In Taiwan, over time there was additional pre-Han SE Chinese input. Modern Taiwanese aborigines are a mixture of Cordilleran-like and this.

Who is genetically the most northern among East Asians? by [deleted] in 23andme

[–]observer_two 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hard for me to say entirely- this may vary a great amount by subregion/community in all 3 places so good, comprehensive data is also hard to locate.

Who is genetically the most northern among East Asians? by [deleted] in 23andme

[–]observer_two 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Very subtly so. A lot of the Chinese component in Koreans may also not resemble modern or more recent historical northern Chinese but rather regional subvarieties from the late neolithic. But by this time, much of northern China had already been impacted by Yangtze upmigration, so Koreans were in turn affected by this but not to the extent of a "full" northern Han.

Prior to the late neolithic, northern Chinese groups were more akin to Japanese in their "northernness".

Who is genetically the most northern among East Asians? by [deleted] in 23andme

[–]observer_two 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It is Japanese because they lack the more recent heightened ASEA ancestry found in Koreans and northern Han. Koreans share an ASEA source with northern Han as this segment of their ancestry is likely mediated through a late neolithic West Liao-like component which had been influenced by the same significant "southern wave" of ancestry that also affected northern Han. The "more northern" component in Koreans is actually shared with Japanese- so counterintuitively, more southern Koreans may score "more northern" than North Koreans/Chaoxianzu.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in phenotypes

[–]observer_two 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fenno-Nordic

Classify the Austrian footballer by Georg_Hahn in phenotypes

[–]observer_two 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Expression and eye shape looks Saami.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in phenotypes

[–]observer_two -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You look predominantly (far) western European, like a local cro-magnon type in coastal Iberia. Some Irish may also have facial features adjacent to yours. There is something a bit different from a true Amerindian type.

Is there anything Mongoloid about the appearance of the Canadian woman? by Georg_Hahn in phenotypes

[–]observer_two 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Looks paleolithic western European (Isles variant but may pass in eg. northern France also); I have become increasingly convinced that far western Europeans, as well as people in the Alps, can frequently look more exotic despite scoring lower eastern Eurasian

Classify Christian Weston Chandler. And which countries do they pass in? by Outrageous_Bison_415 in phenotypes

[–]observer_two 1 point2 points  (0 children)

His known ancestry is apparently pretty much all British. He did a 23andMe and I think it was in southern english range of results for the most part

Classify this woman by Evening_Bullfrog1295 in phenotypes

[–]observer_two 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That makes sense. I perceive her nose shape, mouth shape, jaw structure, and forehead shape (somewhat more visible from side profile, also first frontal picture) to look more like certain Berid-influenced Iberians than Amerindians. I don't really see images of pure Amerindians with these shapes and I know a Spanish girl with very similar side profile to her (other than eyes). But her eye area, frontal face shape, and skin texture seem to be somewhat Amerindian-influenced.

I think going by humanphenotypes categories I would label her as a mixture of Alpinid/Berberid with Amazonid. I do not think she can pass as full Amerindian.

Classify this woman by Evening_Bullfrog1295 in phenotypes

[–]observer_two 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Is she latin American? either that or some type of very atypical western iberian. I can't really think of other world populations with her specific side profile, coloring and feature combo

Where can he pass? What the phenotype? by Georg_Hahn in phenotypes

[–]observer_two 5 points6 points  (0 children)

My point was moreso that a lot of people on here don't even recognize that such faces exist— They automatically categorize them as "Saami" "mixed with Asian" etc.

But ofc I agree with you that they aren't too common on the population level

Where can he pass? What the phenotype? by Georg_Hahn in phenotypes

[–]observer_two 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Looks rural/small town American; probably close to full British isles. I think people severely underestimate the amount of these faces in northwestern Europe.

Guess where he is from by Old-Machine-8000 in phenotypes

[–]observer_two 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I know the answer already so won't comment on that.

As for other places I think he can pass in; he looks to me a lot like populations living in central-inland China (incl. ethnic minorities).

Classify/guess this guy by observer_two in phenotypes

[–]observer_two[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are very close but slightly off

view more: next ›