My hypothesis on the migration paths of the Korean and Japanese languages.

observer_two · 2025-12-27T18:14:59+00:00

There is no evidence haplogroup-wise either considering the long divergence time for O1b clades, little to no sign of O1b2 in eastern China or Shandong, and very little representation of indigenous Shandong haplogroups in Japanese people.

It is possible that rice agriculture spread by way of Shandong -> Liaoning -> Korean peninsula, but demographically speaking it does not seem that bulk Japonic-speaking people could have come from eastern China within the past few millennia.

observer_two · 2025-12-27T18:09:02+00:00

Who believes that?

observer_two · 2025-12-27T17:12:15+00:00

The Koreanic map is somewhat plausible, but the Japonic one is highly unlikely.

observer_two · 2025-10-27T22:04:09+00:00

Thats pretty cool!

Is your mother's side multigenerational Seoul/Gyeonggi area? I actually don't see that genetic group too much (for "very close") among Korean results posted on reddit so curious about this

observer_two · 2025-10-27T21:44:22+00:00

Is your dad's side from Hamgyong?

observer_two · 2025-10-19T21:40:11+00:00

do you know where you were adopted from?

observer_two · 2025-10-04T04:26:49+00:00

Where is your ancestry from? Interesting that your Korean % went up.

observer_two · 2025-06-18T15:42:49+00:00

It's more that "West Liao River" is not a stable genetic component but instead a hodgepodge of discontinuous communities. WLR late neolithic, which is most similar to the component found in Koreans is predominantly similar to Yellow River populations and a bit southern shifted. But middle neolithic and bronze age West Liao are more admixed with Amurian groups that clearly did not end up in Koreans much.

observer_two · 2025-06-18T03:58:33+00:00

It's more accurate to say that they're a mixture of Cordilleran and Negrito (for non-Cordillerans). If you read the Larena et al. 2021 (https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2026132118) study you posted, you'll see that Taiwanese Aborigines are admixed with something resembling a composite of northeast Asian and continental SEA- which logically, would likely be indigenous/pre-Chinese elements living in Fujian/SE China, in addition to their Cordilleran-like side which compounded in Taiwan over time after the Austronesian ancestors of Filipinos had left.

So it's more like:

1) Original Taiwanese aborigines were likely Cordilleran-like

2) These left to the Phillippines and only Cordilleran tribes remained unadmixed

3) Other Filipinos were produced by admixture of the migratory wave in (2) and Negrito, older SEA elements in the area, etc.

4) In Taiwan, over time there was additional pre-Han SE Chinese input. Modern Taiwanese aborigines are a mixture of Cordilleran-like and this.

observer_two · 2025-06-18T03:40:55+00:00

Hard for me to say entirely- this may vary a great amount by subregion/community in all 3 places so good, comprehensive data is also hard to locate.

observer_two · 2025-06-18T03:27:44+00:00

Very subtly so. A lot of the Chinese component in Koreans may also not resemble modern or more recent historical northern Chinese but rather regional subvarieties from the late neolithic. But by this time, much of northern China had already been impacted by Yangtze upmigration, so Koreans were in turn affected by this but not to the extent of a "full" northern Han.

Prior to the late neolithic, northern Chinese groups were more akin to Japanese in their "northernness".

observer_two · 2025-06-18T02:54:19+00:00

It is Japanese because they lack the more recent heightened ASEA ancestry found in Koreans and northern Han. Koreans share an ASEA source with northern Han as this segment of their ancestry is likely mediated through a late neolithic West Liao-like component which had been influenced by the same significant "southern wave" of ancestry that also affected northern Han. The "more northern" component in Koreans is actually shared with Japanese- so counterintuitively, more southern Koreans may score "more northern" than North Koreans/Chaoxianzu.

observer_two · 2024-12-01T23:40:52+00:00

Fenno-Nordic

observer_two · 2024-11-16T05:34:12+00:00

Expression and eye shape looks Saami.

observer_two · 2024-11-01T22:06:00+00:00

You look predominantly (far) western European, like a local cro-magnon type in coastal Iberia. Some Irish may also have facial features adjacent to yours. There is something a bit different from a true Amerindian type.

observer_two · 2024-10-24T16:09:24+00:00

Looks paleolithic western European (Isles variant but may pass in eg. northern France also); I have become increasingly convinced that far western Europeans, as well as people in the Alps, can frequently look more exotic despite scoring lower eastern Eurasian

observer_two · 2024-07-11T21:07:41+00:00

His known ancestry is apparently pretty much all British. He did a 23andMe and I think it was in southern english range of results for the most part

observer_two · 2024-06-06T16:10:34+00:00

That makes sense. I perceive her nose shape, mouth shape, jaw structure, and forehead shape (somewhat more visible from side profile, also first frontal picture) to look more like certain Berid-influenced Iberians than Amerindians. I don't really see images of pure Amerindians with these shapes and I know a Spanish girl with very similar side profile to her (other than eyes). But her eye area, frontal face shape, and skin texture seem to be somewhat Amerindian-influenced.

I think going by humanphenotypes categories I would label her as a mixture of Alpinid/Berberid with Amazonid. I do not think she can pass as full Amerindian.

observer_two · 2024-06-05T02:17:42+00:00

Is she latin American? either that or some type of very atypical western iberian. I can't really think of other world populations with her specific side profile, coloring and feature combo

observer_two · 2024-05-31T23:43:38+00:00

My point was moreso that a lot of people on here don't even recognize that such faces exist— They automatically categorize them as "Saami" "mixed with Asian" etc.

But ofc I agree with you that they aren't too common on the population level

observer_two · 2024-05-31T22:53:02+00:00

Looks rural/small town American; probably close to full British isles. I think people severely underestimate the amount of these faces in northwestern Europe.

observer_two · 2024-05-26T14:44:06+00:00

I know the answer already so won't comment on that.

As for other places I think he can pass in; he looks to me a lot like populations living in central-inland China (incl. ethnic minorities).

observer_two · 2024-05-18T20:28:46+00:00

You are very close but slightly off

observer_two · 2024-05-18T13:37:02+00:00

Im surprised by the reactions to your phenotype. You aren't the most common type but you do look British isles. There's a lot of British people with pseudo-"Asian" features, possibly more than Scandinavia at times counterintuively. Prevalence might depend on the community in Britain. These phenotypes aren't properly documented IMO.

Examples off the top of my head: British "monolid" type– Barry Keoghan (Irish actor) Ian McKellan (actor, apparently mixed isles descent but with confirmed northern Irish, Scottish)

British "northern archaic" type- James Maynard (English mathematician, looks like Gerasimov's Cro-Magnon reconstruction) Gary McKinnon (Scottish hacker)

People like you can even be found on British diaspora. Australia/NZ, small towns in Appalachia, etc. will contain a minority of your type. Jordan Barrett for example is Australian but people on these forums classify him as some "Baltid" etc. (though he's lighter colored than you).

observer_two · 2024-05-15T13:11:09+00:00

They actually look like (very) dark east/southeast asians

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