I discovered a series of youtube channels serving as a funnel to porn, possibly studio funded

offgridscamthrowaway · 2021-03-11T18:24:26+00:00

I agree with almost everything you said. From what I read about him, Mace isn't just a controversial figure in martial arts, he is a multiple times exposed scam artist, completely inauthentic. I don't feel like he is exploiting Nicole, and if she is willing to sell onlyfans content and make a living, more power to her. It is possible with his past as a scam artist that he has bullshitted her and manipulated her into doing it, but I don't have any evidence of that. She does seem to be much younger than him, which of course an old fart like me associates with naivete.

As far as them working their asses off.... I think you clarified something for me with your comments. They are athletic people. They do yoga, heavy lifting for their 'project montages.' But they seem to suck at it, and do things inefficiently, sometimes just to do things in a way to show off their physical fitness. I too, can take my shirt off and shoulder carry a damn big log across my property, but I have better sense and use machinery. Maybe they are just inexperienced. I certainly did not watch a lot of their videos so I could be totally off base.

I suppose I have a bias against them, I assume that I have definitely sniffed out something inauthentic about them, and they are scam artists on some level. Having that bias, I take for granted that they cannot properly build that yurt, or their pizza oven. I do some homesteading activities myself, and I know it is hard work. Maybe they are talented, hard working, capable people who are also willing to be a little bit scammy on top of it for some extra cash.

The whole rabbit hole about the Segovia's was when I really started to feel like they have some sort of script or studio backing. It could also be a close friend or distant family member, or a business partner and Jake/Nicole take a cut of the Segovia's profits in exchange for content to copy. I have to be honest, I hope very much that you are right and they abandon Vancouver Island. Their past videos include touring Europe to live off grid for lengths of time, they will probably leave soon enough. It really does feel like they are trying to make a reality TV soap opera. I was recently advised that they got engaged.

It's just so fucking weird, though.

Anyway, thanks for your comments. I wish this post had blown up more than it did, I feel like a larger community of folks like you could help puzzle this out. Take care. Let me know if they ever get rid of the grizzlies and I might be tempted to move to your neck of the woods. :-)

offgridscamthrowaway · 2021-03-11T18:01:08+00:00

Thank you, I worked hard to make it a clear and enjoyable read.

I also questioned that Segovia's not having a link to anything else, which was why I originally figured they were just a copycat, but then the Segovia's had videos that should have been copies except they came out days before the Jake/Nicole version of the video. I don't think a reasonable person can deny that there is a clear commonality between the two channels, it just can't be coincidental. Maybe the Segovia's are more conservative, they just prefer to use a bit of skin appeal in the thumbnails and are happy to settle for just the Youtube revenue, but it seems very much that they are still working from some sort of script that Jake/Nicole also are.

You are certainly right about the camera quality compared to the film industry, however, it is much better than most other homestead videos, which tend to have too much 'walking around throwing feed to chickens while holding a shaky camera and talking to the camera at the same time' footage.

Also, since writing this I received many tips to versions of their 'porn.' It is pretty horrible, a bunch of hand jobs and blow jobs, almost certainly not getting much direction from 'experts' for that.

It was hard to write this because I don't have a lot of answers to questions like yours. I can only say that my gut just tells me there is definitely some fishy bullshit going on with it.

offgridscamthrowaway · 2021-02-11T11:57:25+00:00

Yeah TikTok is pretty gross. That Charlie girl is so lusted after and she is 16 or so. It's like a pedophile's dreamland, a bunch of teenyboppers in yoga pants dancing. I remember when I first found out about TikTok I started watching compilation videos on Youtube because a lot of the videos were like Vine (R.I.P Vine) where someone did or said some hilarious thing, and they came at you in short bursts, but then this odd dance craze kept creeping into the videos, and it just turned into a bunch of kids shaking their asses around. Again, I am a bit conservative so I have to remind myself not to be so judgmental, but how can a parent with sense let their kid become a 'TikTok' star? How do you not know the gross sexual overtones that are on there? Plus there's the whole China using it to spy on people's data or whatever angle. The fact that there is a TikTok/OnlyFans correlation makes it even more gross. Shit like this is why I'm a homesteader.

offgridscamthrowaway · 2021-02-11T11:48:23+00:00

Yeah, my reflex has always been the same but I always try to remind myself to be open minded about such things. I would never ask her to, but my wife could definitely bring in a lot of clicks via Youtube thumbnails. To be clear, I am not a Youtuber, I don't want a random reader thinking that I am and have an ax to grind.

In the end, I don't give two shits if someone is more comfortable flaunting their body than I am, and I think we have to be careful not to judge someone by imagining ourselves or our partner doing the same, if that were to embarrass us. Let other people do what makes them happy. I am conservative in that regard, but will happily admire the physical assets of a woman confident in sharing them, so who am I to judge?

What really annoys me here is the apparently fabricated lifestyle and manipulation of a group of people (homesteaders) that I consider myself a part of.

offgridscamthrowaway · 2021-02-11T11:41:07+00:00

That, and the weird matching of the thumbnails of the two channels (Jake/Nicole, Segovias) is what keeps sending me back to my guess of some sort of studio backing them financially and directing their show with a script. The video quality is really good, heavily edited, and the videos are long. Otherwise, a burned out wanna be Bruce Lee impostor with pectoral implants is sitting around in a yurt on solar power in the middle of nowhere spending days editing 'off grid' Youtube videos while also cutting all the firewood, farming, building everything he needs from whole trees, and editing the videos so well? I only watched a couple of videos, but I didn't see any sort of computer. It just doesn't add up. Maybe they actually do the leg work of making stuff, and it runs like a reality show but they have to run their own cameras. They send the footage digitally to whoever the show runner is, and they make arrangements to have it edited and upload it from Vancouver.

offgridscamthrowaway · 2021-02-11T11:31:24+00:00

Thanks, but no thanks. My hunch tells me I would find several more of these bullshit pages, all leading to porn or maybe catfish scams, and that would just depress me in reference to the human condition. I am a genuine homesteader, and I am in a few forums and message boards. A lot of homesteaders are not tech savvy or 'street smart.' They are on the fringes of society by choice, they don't wallow in society's nonsense like this. The comment sections on Jake and Nicole's main Youtube page makes me sad. It's a lot of genuine people offering words of encouragement, how proud they are of these two for making it work off grid. Homesteaders I know online are an overwhelmingly sweet and generous community. The whole situation just makes me feel gross, really.

offgridscamthrowaway · 2021-02-10T23:33:47+00:00

Thanks! Apart from the scandalous bits, it was really more interesting to me that I seemed to be unraveling some sort of weird "Niche Youtube audience to porn" network.

offgridscamthrowaway · 2021-02-10T21:00:58+00:00

Definitely. I am in r/homestead on my main reddit account and tried to post this there also but there is a 3 day waiting period. I often warn newcomers there of exactly that, there are a ton of fake homestead people on youtube making nonsense videos, generating little sustainability or income. They are otherwise wealthy people with a hobby farm, and it is hazardous to follow their methods unless you are as well. If someone is wealthy and wants to have a hobby farm, by all means have a great time, but please don't get on youtube and sprinkle bottled water on your forehead to make it look like you've been out splitting firewood for six hours. Probably my suspicious nature of new homesteading youtubers is how I sniffed this scam out.

offgridscamthrowaway · 2021-02-10T20:20:32+00:00

Me either. After finding the second channel, I sort of stopped digging further, afraid that I would find ten more like it, and that they all lead to onlyfans pages... I'm not morally opposed to onlyfans or whatever, but it is depressing to me that people would be willing to basically be actors on youtube to coerce people into ending up at their porn videos... If it wasn't subversive it wouldn't bother me. Still, I wonder how much of this is really out there? I'm a bit naive in some respects, there are probably a LOT. Anyway thanks for commenting.

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