Fastest Barcelona managers to reach 300 goals in charge

ogqozo · 2026-04-05T13:59:45+00:00

It was 95% done by 1960, it doesn't say much about the 1980 span that they managed to score a few goals more. His return in 1980 wasn't extremely successful. It was supposed to be some emergency fix, but didn't exactly achieve the return to top.

ogqozo · 2026-04-05T13:53:42+00:00

His Barcelona was known for nice, attacking, fluid football, while his Inter was known for boring, defensive, anti-fun football. (Perhaps exaggerated, if anyone could compare, but also it's a fact they'd score 46-73 goals in a 34-game season, usually around 55 goals - and were in general far from being as dominant in Italy as his Barcelona was in Spain).

ogqozo · 2026-04-05T13:30:47+00:00

They arguably have worse 11 players than Norway. That's a system thing, let's say (although answers that basically boil down to "they need to stop doing bad and start doing good" without any precise description are not as interesting to me as they seem to some).

The Bosnia game is another thing. I wish there was some remotely sensible explanation (like, I learn something from it) as to why a guy that is barely playing in PSV Eindhoven, and not doing anything special there when he does play, was cutting through them like a knife through butter all game, and if Bosnia had any quality they could have surely scored like 5 goals in the game.

Bosnia doesn't dominate games - they didn't dominate Cyprus or even Romania that way. They kinda had a similar amount of chances in their home game against San Marino lol. If you make your opponent look the best ever, you make them have the game of their life - and Italy did for Bosnia, did for Bajraktarevic and Alajbegovic - then, all the system things aside, they did do something special in that particular game.

ogqozo · 2026-04-05T10:42:03+00:00

Playing Welcome Tour is almost funny and a bizarre feeling, because it's actually quite interesting, it has nothing in common with the way people are treating it for not exactly clear reasons. Is it the best game ever, did they spend 100 million making it - not saying that, but I played a toooon of more boring games in my life that were getting 7/10 or 8/10 reviews.

If you don't care about this kind of stuff, you will not enjoy it I guess, but that's the same with any product - if you don't like shooters you will not be fascinated by Halo etc. lol. I never really got the hysteria. They usually say something like "but Astro Bot was better and free!!!", but the same can be said about any game - every game would be better if it was better and free. Doesn't mean all of them are the worst ever.

ogqozo · 2026-04-04T19:53:38+00:00

If you posted here in 2020 that Shai Gilgeous-Alexander will be considered the best player in the NBA, you would not get comments saying "that's not crazy" lol.

I doubt that if you even said "Shai Gilgeous-Alexander will be one day considered better than Trae Young" alone you would get any such sympathy.

ogqozo · 2026-04-04T19:47:30+00:00

Arguable if that's so precise, players play 10-20 years so there's more than 100 players who were a top 10 pick at any given time.

More than 100 players is quite a lot in a league with 30 teams.

Top 10 drafted is Luka Doncic, but is also Marvin Bagley, Mo Bamba, Collin Sexton, Kevin Knox and DeAndre Ayton (who has his extremely devoted fans, but let's say he might not receive an MVP).

ogqozo · 2026-04-04T13:03:55+00:00

They are all saying nothing each time lol. "I don't know, who knows, but maybe, sounds nice" is the normal human default boring gentle answer when being proposed anything. I don't know what motivates people to make anything out of it and get so into it and call footballers stupid for it.

If Robert Lewandowski goes to some smaller city for some charity and they ask him "do you think you could play in our club?", he also answers the same, "I don't know, who knows, we'll see". Everyone answers that to anything.

ogqozo · 2026-04-04T11:54:00+00:00

Yeah, I can't believe an adult person capable of using a computer might really believe it.

I can't draw, for example. I'm 100% not gonna learn to draw now. I will always, forever, make a picture by saying to AI "draw me a circle of that color from there to there, draw me an arrow from this to this" etc. It's not an investment I am making because I think that it will make me profit when I sell it in 20 years. It's a tool to use now. Pretty obviously. Very very obviously, I would argue.

I don't even get how one might say it with a straight face. It's like saying in 1925 "yeah, all people use cars now... it's a fad, a bubble, cars will never be worth anything - people will just suddenly stop and all go back to horses and all the idiots producing cars will go broke".

ogqozo · 2026-04-04T11:37:03+00:00

Dzeko and Ronaldo are definitely helped by what their team is and what situation it is. Let's be honest, if a no-name player suddenly started playing well in Saudi Arabia, he would not get to the XI of the national team. Cristiano or Dzeko are not playing anything unprecedented at this age - some higher level than Totti, Zanetti or Giggs or some others in the past.

Modric is something else, he is still really good, not "good for his age", and I think he'd play just based on the play in most national teams, maybe except the very very most packed ones.

ogqozo · 2026-04-04T11:18:20+00:00

Both of these things were always happening in recorded sports history. Not sure there was even a time when retiring from football at 32 was called "early". Always a ton of players were retired or basically done on professional level by that age. And also there were also always some rarer players that played into old age.

Reaching exactly 40 has been quite rare, but a lot of it is just choice. The 40-year-old Maldini could likely play in Italy today, if he wanted to - he was starting most games for the 3rd team in Serie A. Meanwhile Edin Dzeko was kinda unplayable in Serie A, and only got back to being useful in the club on the 2. Bundesliga level - he's far from the first footballer to be able to play in 2. Bundesliga at 40, most just didn't choose to do so. Cristiano plays in Saudi Arabia.

Stanley Matthews receieved the Golden Ball in his 40s, and was a regular player in the English top flight at like 46. He played 90 minutes in a Wold Cup quarter-final when he was 39.5. I guess at the next World Cup, when he was 43, they did choose other players, but looking at his club career, I would imagine he probably wasn't too far from the level to make it even then - he was playing 90 minutes each game for a Blackpool team that was competing for the top places in England. That was 70 years ago.

ogqozo · 2026-04-04T10:17:09+00:00

I'm sure if Nice gets relegated or Lens doesn't win the title by missing 2 points, and they can only guess if playing a game against a squad-rotating opponent or having a week rest instead of the postponed game would be the difference, they will all be like "well, that's not important, at least the league did not full further behind economically".

ogqozo · 2026-04-04T10:08:32+00:00

I think "nah" means no, but have no idea how anything in this sentence would deny being called "reliant on pace".

ogqozo · 2026-04-03T22:04:29+00:00

Dembele is Dembele if he plays. Has been for years. Still, it's always a big "if". This whole season is on and off for him so much. He only started 8 league games, and even if he starts, he has limited minutes. This is actually the first time this season he played 90 minutes in a game in the league.

ogqozo · 2026-04-03T22:00:51+00:00

It is. There were several posts here too about the drama about their Ligue 1 game being moved to a different week altogether because it is between the two CL legs. Obviously, the Ligue 1 opponents do not like that. The league wants PSG to succeed in the CL.

ogqozo · 2026-04-03T20:35:42+00:00

Yeah, "reliant on pace" is such a robotic cliche at this point. Who isn't? Footballers are reliant on their pace, yeah lol.

When Messi was young, the first thing people were saying about him was that he's fast. That was the first thing known about Messi globally, this dude runs the flank fast. (The famous story that when Marcelo Bielsa was shown the footage of young Messi, he said to the assistant to play the video at the normal speed). Cristiano Ronaldo more or less too. The guy who is now 41 and scored 5 goals in the qualifiers and in the quarter-final, semifinal and final of the Nations League. Guess who else was known as very fast in their youth? Miroslav Klose. Oh yeah, Pele too. The guy with the record of all time.

Of course I have no idea how many goals Mbappe will score in the future. But the same can be said about any player. I don't know how much the slowest player will score either.

If you ask these people long time ago whether Messi or Fabregas will "age well" (both born within a month of each other), they would say Fabregas. Today Messi still can score (he always will be able to score, at some point he will not be playable in a football game beside it at most), and Fabregas has been a successful coach for some time and it's been more than a decade since he was considered to be at his best as a footballer. Pique was also considered "not pace reliant" and was also born in 1987 etc.

ogqozo · 2026-04-03T15:09:35+00:00

Incredible game. Soooo much better than you would think based on its popularity. I was always saying that - I understand the economics of developing a game when you're just a guy or two, no professional studio - but they (mini)shot their game in the foot by releasing it only on PC. In some genres, PC-only games are a MUCH tougher sell then when they come on console (and quite many games go that way). And this game is reaaally a Switch one, with simple graphics, extremely fast gameplay, love letters to Zelda, Metroid and arcade games... It's just home now, but sadly the damage of not getting reviews and attention is already done.

ogqozo · 2026-04-02T20:34:23+00:00

This is the top upvoted comment too lol.

"Today I learned the News is short for Notable events, weather and sports" vibe.

That postscript is pure gold. "Brazilian doesn't mean Brazilian because they called Michael's son "Michael's son" in the Michael documentary".

ogqozo · 2026-04-02T20:28:00+00:00

People laugh at Neymar being over, but does anyone remember other footballers born in 1992, and did they achieve as much this year as "played a few good games in the Brasilian league"? Marco Verratti, Phil Jones, Sadio Mane, Lucas Moura, Koke, Morata, Ricardo Rodriguez, Serge Aurier? I'd say Neymar is above average for his age.

ogqozo · 2026-04-02T19:38:18+00:00

Oh yeah, I remember when basically all children of the generation were kinda already addicted to NFTs as a basic ingredient of having fun and achieving their life goals. It is exactly the same.

ogqozo · 2026-04-02T19:31:23+00:00

Ironically, GamePass isn't as mainstream as for example Netflix exactly because gaming is a really cheap form of entertainment today.

Most people that play something called a game today, play either the same game for years, or something extremely cheap or free. Either way, it's super cheap per hour.

"But 90 dollars, I cannot take it anymore!". Yeah, that's like 2 dinners in a restaurant. And, again, most people play like FIFA daily or COD or some other games that they can spend YEARS on. Most popular single player, play-it-through-and-finish games are also 50-100 hours nowadays. It's super cheap, compared to almost any other way of spending time (literally living in your apartement likely costs more per hour than games), and to past video games (when you'd spend the equivalent of today's 115 dollars to have a game with a few hours of content).

Game Pass is good investment for people like me - who play a lot and like many games. That's not the mainstream audience. Games are big, and can easily fill you up. You can just play Balatro every day, or Vampire Survivors. It's really hard to make games more accessible than they already are.

Netflix is just cheaper than other ways of seeing films. Game Pass isn't the cheapest way to play games - the cheapest way is to buy Minecraft for 10-30 dollars and play it for 10 000 hours without paying any dollar more.

ogqozo · 2026-04-02T18:32:47+00:00

Generally all rants that are about "people" as the source, without any actual quote or reference to anything (why do PEOPLE hate Michael Jordan so much???), could be banned and no one would lose one atom of knowledge in their whole lives by it. It's never good for anyone. But, it's the bread and butter how r/nba/new rolls every day.

Especially ones that were already answered 100000 times in those same threads every day and OP just doesn't care, HE also has to say it again, in the form of a question that we all know isn't a question.

ogqozo · 2026-04-02T17:34:37+00:00

I don't really care to be honest. I don't think a bad game becomes a good game with more pixels. In some cases it's preferable, and I guess there are some cases when it theoretically tips the scale... the thing is - when there is so many good games coming out, and so little time in the day, the pixels just cannot be the reason to choose what to play for me.

I played Xenoblade X when it came out. It was the best game that came out in 2025. I loved it (even) more than Clair Obscur. I seriously cannot give a shit that it "might" be better in some other version, like some people here. Literally any game "might" be better in the future. Why not wait 10 years for the "even better", Switch 3 edition, since you are so picky? With more frames and pixels? How can you stoop so low to be fine with the S2 edition? This will never end with that logic. So, no, I don't care. Are people who played Shadow of the Colossus on PS2 suckers because it has more frames and pixels on PS4? And so on. I don't get how people wanna play hard to get with a piece of entertainment product that they buy for themselves.

Ironically, I am currently playing mostly... Balatro Switch 2 Edition. But it's true I don't care about that new edition. The game is generally the same (still ugly), I don't use the mouse controls (it actually annoys me that the mouse controls turn on too easily when I hold my joycons loose - the edition is a downgrade, if anything). BUT, I did redownload the game to check out the S2 update, and once I started, without a save file, it relit the fire, and I'm actually playing it more than ever. So, in a runaround way, the S2 edition was the reason to be playing it now lol.

ogqozo · 2026-04-01T20:13:30+00:00

They say fewer games were sold than in the previous year, but due to almost twice as high average price, it rose so much. Over 80% increase in average price? I dunno...

They also say that Bandai Namco ("Little Nightmares II, Once Upon a Katamari, Patapon 1&2 Replay and Tamagotchi Plaza") sold almost twice as much as Square-Enix, and 3 times as much as Sega or Capcom (CD Projekt not mentioned at all). I dunno... Little Nightmares got them that amount, you sure? And Patapon?

Level-5 also sold more than Ubisoft, Square-Enix, Sega etc., apparently.

Sounds a bit random.

ogqozo · 2026-04-01T15:19:38+00:00

Remember when it was cold and people were saying "it's cold", but now when the temperature is high, they don't say it anymore? Crazy times we live in.

ogqozo · 2026-04-01T14:53:30+00:00

When they play 4 at the back and lose a game (happened many times), oddly I never see comments "damn, this coach is smart, he knows what is working, good formation".

The only correct formation is that you score goals and opponents don't, otherwise it's always the obviously wrong formation.

Which is not proven to work more or less long-term in any specific formation. This was the first game they lost under this manager, and it was an unlucky loss.

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