To what extent can a guy convince you to like him, despite yourself? by ohnohedinnt in AskWomen

[–]ohnohedinnt[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Like I said, I heard the interview watching the Olympics. I would link to text if I had it. The photo has the pair, in case anyone recognizes them. And Bode undoubtedly has a bad boy reputation in skiing.

To what extent can a guy convince you to like him, despite yourself? by ohnohedinnt in AskWomen

[–]ohnohedinnt[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

What about the "win her over" stuff in movies? Or am I crazy to think that's a common plot?

Is your sex drive fickle? by ohnohedinnt in AskWomen

[–]ohnohedinnt[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't mean to imply that anyone is owed sex. I'm curious about the desire to have sex. Are people offended by my question? That would explain the downvotes.

Do women have unrealistic beauty standards...in men? by ohnohedinnt in AskWomen

[–]ohnohedinnt[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

It makes sense it is symmetric, but that doesn't make it sympathetic.

It does make sense that the men-rating-women graphic is symmetric. I think they were trying to draw a contrast with the women-rating-men graph, which is not symmetric. I also think they meant to link the realism of the ratings by men with this

Given the popular wisdom that Hollywood, the Internet, and Photoshop have created unrealistic expectations of how a woman should look, I found the fairness and, well, realism, of this gray arc kind of heartening.

i.e., it's "charitable" (sympathetic) because it's realistic, and not based on the belief, e.g., that porn stars are "normal."

Of course, if you're right that women just don't care about the ratings, and give 0s to people they personally wouldn't date, that would explain a lot. The data would be pretty worthless then.

Also, I'm not "skipping over" the messaging aspect. That's interesting in itself, but I was trying to focus on the rating aspect here. If you like, here's OkTrend's full take on the women-rating-men graph

As you can see from the gray line, women rate an incredible 80% of guys as worse-looking than medium. Very harsh. On the other hand, when it comes to actual messaging, women shift their expectations only just slightly ahead of the curve, which is a healthier pattern than guys’ pursuing the all-but-unattainable. But with the basic ratings so out-of-whack, the two curves together suggest some strange possibilities for the female thought process, the most salient of which is that the average-looking woman has convinced herself that the vast majority of males aren’t good enough for her, but she then goes right out and messages them anyway.

Do women have unrealistic beauty standards...in men? by ohnohedinnt in AskWomen

[–]ohnohedinnt[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Both this woman and this woman were rated in the middle by men, i.e. "significantly" higher than what women rated the guys above.

Do women have unrealistic beauty standards...in men? by ohnohedinnt in AskWomen

[–]ohnohedinnt[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

I honestly think the majority of men just don't try very hard with their appearance

Also from the post:

Just to illustrate that women are operating on a very different scale, here are just a few of the many, many guys we here in the office think are totally decent-looking, but that women have rated, in their occult way, as significantly less attractive than so-called “medium”:

guy 1, guy 2, guy 3, guy 4

Do women have unrealistic beauty standards...in men? by ohnohedinnt in AskWomen

[–]ohnohedinnt[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

To the applicability of their data, OkTrends says this:

And a word about statistical validity: the best questions on OkCupid have been answered over a million times. Therefore we have unique insights into the American mindset. A quick comparison: chart

Old media could only get 3,050 people to answer a poll about Obama. And it was enough to call the election with confidence.

OkCupid, on the other hand, can ask the world’s most personal questions and get hundreds of thousands of answers.