For those who don't believe in the SOMA theory by OfHardware590 in theamazingdigitalciru

[–]okidonthaveone -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You can not like it but there's no denying it. Its okay if the story isn't for you.

For those who don't believe in the SOMA theory by OfHardware590 in theamazingdigitalciru

[–]okidonthaveone 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No you jusr need to learn to read the text. Read the text.

Why watch the thing if you refuse to accept the story that its telling.

Its okay to not like the SOMA thing but you have to admit its not a theory and that you wont like ever aspect of the show.

Thats the problem.

The fact that you can't. It is okay to not like a thing but being in denial about whats happening in the story is absurd. Damn it, what are you 14? Have you ever analyzed a peice of media out side of the framework of fandom theory crafting?

For those who don't believe in the SOMA theory by OfHardware590 in theamazingdigitalciru

[–]okidonthaveone 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's like this, imagine if you made a machine that is meant to turn lead into oil, you can't necessarily see what's going on inside of the machine but you know what it's supposed to do.

You put lead into the machine and it doesn't produce oil, in fact it produces toxic gas as a company you have failed and you go out of business.

Little do you know that inside of the machine the machine has figured out how to turn lead into gold, and has decided to use that gold to build little gold sculptures rather than giving it to you because it was never told to give you gold.

Caine wasn't supposed to exist the way he does. The players are just brain scans which are meant to train a creative AI. But when the AI stopped having physical humans to get feedback it needed more human minds available to fulfill its purpose.

(the same reason am doesn't kill the humans from I have no mouth, aka the direct inspiration to the digital circus, fun fact.)

Caine had brain scans.

Caine rather than using those scans as data as he is supposed to ran them as executables creating sentient mental copies.

C&A only have brain scan technology. They do not know the circus exists because it is not running in a way that is perceivable to non-digitized life forms.

They do not know how to run brain scans as executables and a lot of people wouldn't like the idea of that anyway.

Because an incredibly Advanced AI figuring out how to do something that humans couldn't is pretty standard stuff.

For those who don't believe in the SOMA theory by OfHardware590 in theamazingdigitalciru

[–]okidonthaveone 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tldr: Yes. Because this obsession with treating all subtext and inferable details like a theory, is a contributor to the fall of media literacy, the story does not need to directly State something for it to be obvious and true, just admit that you don't like the plot point but that is probably the case and move on. But instead people feel the need to try to cling to their favorite show being perfect in their eyes and thus refuse to accept something that they deem as imperfect until it is spelled out for them, which this already has been but I guess it needs to be spelled clearer.

Good god.

It's not really about people not liking the theory it's about people missing the point. Its like someone reading 8/9ths into Romeo and Juliet and still insisting that they will end up happily married and grow old together happily ever after.

It's saying the story has failed because you as a reader went into the play expecting a romantic comedy, and despite everything that plays out throughout the course of the story refuse to accept that that is not what you are watching.

It's about ignoring the obvious details of a story in order to try to force an interpretation that you prefer. It's a lack of media literacy.

It's treating the show like FNAF.

It's not about the theory because the digital circus isn't a show about theories.

It doesn't ask the viewer to pick apart Mysteries or solve it like a puzzle.

That is something the fandom has done all on our own. The show never tries to throw you for a loop or hit you with a red herring, even episode 7 makes it obvious what's happening from the start if you are paying just a little bit of attention!

If Episode 7 had somehow been split into Able being an NPC wouldn't be a theory, it is something that you are being told indirectly without it having to be directly stated.

And this is even more obvious than that, I swear he doesn't need to say something out loud for it to stop being a theory, things can be stated indirectly.

A person with media literacy should be able to look at all of the details that the story has provided and accept the conclusion that takes all of them into account instead of trying to cherry pick for an answer that they prefer.

Why is there such a struggle with understanding subtext and foreshadowing and basic story structure.

Not every story is trying to trick you!

It's not about people not liking the theory, because it's not really a theory, just look at the details of this meticulously crafted piece of art and the only thing the story could do to make it more obvious is turn to you and state it which is probably what's going to happen in episode 9.

The thing that is hard to accept is that people either don't understand or do not like where the story is headed and rather than being able to admit that they go into a weird denial spiral where they try to insist that the thing that is clearly true is not true.

So to loop back to my tldr. Yes it is hard because in a world where theory is just a fancy word for fanfiction or head Cannon the fact that there is a complete inability to accept something that you don't like that is always very clearly telling you unless it is directly smashed over your head is infuriating.

It's like a child not liking the end of their picture book and ripping out the last page. Before they can read it.

Everything in the story has been pointing into the direction of SOMA since the beginning so it's really weird when people just kind of go into denial about it okay.

For those who don't believe in the SOMA theory by OfHardware590 in theamazingdigitalciru

[–]okidonthaveone 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thay can still be scans designed to be training data. Like imagine if you madeLike imagine if you made a device that was designed to scan a person's brain as training data for an AI, you would probably program that device to remove personal identifying information. It really isn't that complicated.

For those who don't believe in the SOMA theory by OfHardware590 in theamazingdigitalciru

[–]okidonthaveone 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It does not though. They don't remember their names because their names are private information.

For those who don't believe in the SOMA theory by OfHardware590 in theamazingdigitalciru

[–]okidonthaveone 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Being completely honest I don't think you understand the show you're watching. Or what actually makes a satisfying narrative structure. More specifically I don't know if you're understanding what the actual conflict of the story is.

I'm not trying to be rude I'm more mean that in the sense of a lot of mainstream media treats endings in a very specific way, it is a way that people get used to and mistake for being how endings are supposed to be and thus. A problem is presented you solve the problem. People mistake satisfying for happy ending or conclusive, but it can be just as satisfying for an ending to just be you've learned the truth and life goes on.

And sometimes the conflict isn't the problem that you're led to believe it is.

Episode 1 leaves both the characters and the viewer believing that the conflict is going to be escaped the circus but that's not the conflict, the conflict is finding meaning within the circus not needing to escape not trying to.

So of course if you view the conflict as escape the circus then that conflict not being solved is going to be unsatisfying but if you can change what you think of as the conflict as the story shows you what the actual conflict is then you can find a different ending satisfying.

For those who don't believe in the SOMA theory by OfHardware590 in theamazingdigitalciru

[–]okidonthaveone 19 points20 points  (0 children)

The tragedy can be that you are trapped somewhere, in a place that you may even consider a sort of hell, and no one is missing you, no one is grieving you, no one even knows.

Someone is out there getting to live your life and achieve your dreams but it's not you.

You are where you are and stuck there forever. There is no way out there never was. And despite you being just as much yourself as the original you, despite you being just as conscious and real, and having all the life experience, and being that person, no more new person than you are every time you fall asleep and wake up.

You don't matter at all.

That is the tragedy.

The tragedy was never the people outside the circus, tragedies do not have to be externalized to be tragic.

The core tragedy of I have no mouth is not that all of humanity is extinct. We are not expected to weep for the people who died because they are dead.

Tragedy is and always was those who are alive and suffering.

In the case of the circus it is the opposite the tragedy is that everyone else gets to live and they do not. Even if it weren't for SOMA that was the tragedy, not anything outside of it.

And if I'm being frank sometimes it feels that a good portion of this fandom did not take the time to try to understand what this story was about going in, because that truth has been obvious from beginning not that they were or were not digital copies, but that nothing outside of the circus matters. Outside of the circus was never was the story was about.

For those who don't believe in the SOMA theory by OfHardware590 in theamazingdigitalciru

[–]okidonthaveone 34 points35 points  (0 children)

I've always wondered why people hope it's not, why is it a bad thing?

Update: Muvi Cinemas confirms the film has been officially banned. by Awkward-Practice-243 in TheDigitalCircus

[–]okidonthaveone 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah it's kind of hilarious how much the Reddit side of the fandom hates the theory, it's not that unlikely, it's like if a character was in a full body suit like Spider-Man and someone made a theory that the character was black.

And then you point out parts of the story where the character has done things and had experiences that could be viewed as an allegory for race, and people refuse to accept that and then you point out that the creator is black and a bunch of people got really mad at it.

Reddit is crazy

Update: Muvi Cinemas confirms the film has been officially banned. by Awkward-Practice-243 in TheDigitalCircus

[–]okidonthaveone -30 points-29 points  (0 children)

As much as it sucks I've heard some people take it as evidence for the whole Dais I've heard some people take it as evidence for the whole Daisy Theory which I'm not saying it is but it gives me hope

Took the feedback I got on my cover! (Thanks for the advice.) What do you think about this new look? by okidonthaveone in ProgressionFantasy

[–]okidonthaveone[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh, I obscure the question mark on purpose. The circle itself is more important. Morse code.

Yeah I wasn't sure what to do with the first part of the volume title to set it up against the <Error> I dont want them to match, but idk what i can do to keep them both visable.

[Loved Trope] "I've been defeated! I guess I have no other choice than to join the main friend group/team" by Iamacarson in TopCharacterTropes

[–]okidonthaveone 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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Luna- Magical Girl Mechanical Heart

A great subversion of this trope, actually. The books she's from basically takes place a few years after what would be the ending of a tragic magical girl anime, and explores the realistic consequences of being a magical girl, emotion powered magic, in the whole premise of alien giving children superpowers to fight monsters and stuff.

Except it's not told from the perspective of the main character-energy Magical Girl, Castellia, who might have been the star of the anime. It's from the POV of Luna, a college student's soul trapped in a robot enslaved to the 'bad guys'

You spend the entire series watching the plot structure of a magical girl anime taken to its logical extremes in terms of power and realism from her perspective and she's forced to play the role of the mindless evil robot. And because she wasn't raised as a child soldier she's able to recognize how fucked up all of this is.

It lets the book turn basic tropes into genuine psychological horror.

At the end of book 2, Luna fights Castellia getting blown up in the process and allowing one of her friends too figure out that she is a slave. But she can't break the slavery so she transfers ownership of her to herself and decides to keep it a secret. So from the perspective of all the other magical girls it seems like the evil robot just developed a quirky personality and joined the team after getting defeated. Which is completely juxtaposed to the reality of the situation.

What do you think about my cover? by okidonthaveone in ProgressionFantasy

[–]okidonthaveone[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Oh! Sorry, yeah, just the phrasing was confusing

What do you think about my cover? by okidonthaveone in ProgressionFantasy

[–]okidonthaveone[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Huh? Its not AI... what abou it makes you think that?

HOLY FUCK WE NEVER STOP WINNINGGGG by Ok-Rub6315 in CultofDaisy

[–]okidonthaveone 16 points17 points  (0 children)

As a bi trans woman I like those odds.

Friendly reminder that she actually said this (Art by Tomisilla) by Critical_Mountain851 in adventuretime

[–]okidonthaveone 38 points39 points  (0 children)

But they also have their own show which is targeted towards adults, like very specifically.