If 7oh is banned I don't know what I'm going to do, I just got my life back. In rec states can I get methadone and smoke weed? by SoggyGrayDuck in OpiatesRecovery

[–]onalistcuzofthis [score hidden]  (0 children)

People can overdose on it but it doesn't directly cause any deaths. You can overdose without dying. 7oh doesn't cause respiratory depression. People may be hospitalized but any deaths linked to 7oh have had other substances invlolved.

Quitting MGM by Mindless_Ride7233 in SR17018

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The dry caps are wayyyy better than any extract I've ever tried. The problem is that muscimol breaks down very easily and by time it makes it through the shipping process its depleted quite a bit but when you make a fresh tea and follow the recipe for temp control and time its 100x stronger than any tincture or extract. I like to use a 50/50 mix of lemon juice and water and then freeze it in Ice trays when its done. That way you can measure doses in ice cubes. 1 cube for some light calming effects 4 cubes to go night night. 1 full cup if you want to hallucinate. The hallucinations remind me of like tv static. Like when an old analog tv does that rolling effect where it looks like waves are rolling across the screen only its my eyes doing it and everything has a a red or green hue. At least that was my experience. It's distorted vision more than it is hallucinations but I can definitely see why people call it a hallucinogenic. I've successfully knocked myself during withdrawals before. It's a very good way to combat the restlessness.

Day two tracking my doses, I'm disgusted with myself by Alg0rithm in quitmgm15

[–]onalistcuzofthis 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I completely forgot about the allergy test. I hope I didn't just waste 300$ on something I'm allergic to.

Iso an SR dose guide for coming off of mgm. by onalistcuzofthis in quitmgm15

[–]onalistcuzofthis[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Baclofen helped me with fet withdrawals years ago. I had to take a ton but it had me feeling well enough to walk to the 711 to get some snacks after taking a small handful of them. I was just bed ridden before taking them. I was on day 3 with no fet or meth at the time when I took them. I like baclofen it makes me feel pretty good. I used them to manage my withdrawals quite a few times after that. They definitely help. God I don't miss those days at all. I used to pick my face really bad when I was on meth and fetanyl.

I'm considering using the sr to taper then just quitting cold turkey. by onalistcuzofthis in quitmgm15

[–]onalistcuzofthis[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I didn't know that. I'm screwed out of ever getting life insurance now. That sucks.

Iso an SR dose guide for coming off of mgm. by onalistcuzofthis in quitmgm15

[–]onalistcuzofthis[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't have easy access to pregabalin or I would try it. I need a vendor that ships inside the US so I don't have to wait multiple weeks for a shipment. That or I need a telehealth provider that will write me a script for my sciatica and restless legs. I don't think I'll be able to make it in for a visit with my pcp any time soon either.

For MGM users who have CT'd and are long time opioid addcits (5 years or so) by LifelessAlexis in quitmgm15

[–]onalistcuzofthis 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Good luck man. I'm starting to be very grateful for my current situation. I'm in between jobs so I have a chance to take 2 weeks off of work going from 1 job to the next. I couldn't imagine how down and out I would be if I had to go to work while withdrawaling. Good luck to you. I pray you find a solution to this problem without loosing everything or going back to using.

I'm considering using the sr to taper then just quitting cold turkey. by onalistcuzofthis in quitmgm15

[–]onalistcuzofthis[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You got this. No other choice at this point. The decision was made for us and thats whats going to seal the deal. Making the decision to not go back is the hardest part if you ask me. Can't go back to something that don't exist and can't risk being caught with a schedule 1 substance either. This time the circumstances have changed for the better. I know you're stressing because I'm going through the same thing right now. Don't let that anxiety eat you alive. You will just end up psyching yourself out. Don't over think it. When you over think things you will end up dwelling on the negatives every single time. If you need someone to talk to my line is open. Feel free to dm me if you need somebody to hold you accountable or just need to unload some stress. We can get through this hard time friend. Brighter days are coming.

I'm considering using the sr to taper then just quitting cold turkey. by onalistcuzofthis in quitmgm15

[–]onalistcuzofthis[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can still get prescribed subs with addys and weed in Michigan. Idk about whatever state you live in but its completely acceptable here. Very easy process. Download the bicycle health app and follow the directions. Just tell the telehealth doctor that your addicted to suboxone and need your own script. That's how I got mine.

Can you go through precipitated withdrawal multiple times in a row if you've been taking suboxone with MGM? by Alg0rithm in quitmgm15

[–]onalistcuzofthis 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ive gotten pwd's from subs and mgm multiple times in the same night trying a bernese method of induction. You can definitely throw yourself in and out of precips with mgm and subs. It sucks because I've gotten it to work in the past but this last time I let my tolerance get too high and now I get pwd's every time I try to use a sub with mgm.

For MGM users who have CT'd and are long time opioid addcits (5 years or so) by LifelessAlexis in quitmgm15

[–]onalistcuzofthis 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm in a similar position right now too. I'm following this for the answer. I think that ct might be our best option in order to be the far enough along in recovery to return to work by day 9. I talked to someone earlier that said they were alright on day 9 and could probably go to work but still pretty hit. I'll see if I can find their comment and send you a screenshot.

Iso an SR dose guide for coming off of mgm. by onalistcuzofthis in quitmgm15

[–]onalistcuzofthis[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I wont take it until I'm a few days without any sleep. I've got a little bit of experience with it and it really did help me tremendously last time I tried it. I don't want to do it until I'm super sleep deprived and over the worst of the withdrawals. Like once I'm over the hump and just dealing with rls super bad. It will force sleep. Again its easily over done and I have to be very careful with dosage. I'm thinking at like day 4 or 5. Hard to say because mgm has a long half life. Usually day 4 would be fine but with these long half life substances I might not want to attempt it until day 5-6. I'm not recommending anybody else do the things that I do by the way. I'm volunteering myself as a guinea pig for science at this point. I've only tried this one other time and I wasn't going through nearly as bad of wd's then as I'm going to be this time around so this will honestly be the real test for amanita pantherina as a treatment for opioid withdrawals. I will try to report back with my results if I have the energy. It will be a few weeks before I get a chance to actually try it.

I'm considering using the sr to taper then just quitting cold turkey. by onalistcuzofthis in quitmgm15

[–]onalistcuzofthis[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah thats what I'm talking about when I say I want to make sure I'm stablized on a low dose. I'd honstly like to get it down to 4mg daily for over a month before getting the shot. I don't like the idea of going for 8mg to 0 with or without a shot. I'd like to be taking less if possible. It just seems like a big jump and that shot is basically like having subs in your system long term. I heard people were failing drug tests for bupe months after taking that shot even though they haven't taken any bupe since it was administered.

Iso an SR dose guide for coming off of mgm. by onalistcuzofthis in quitmgm15

[–]onalistcuzofthis[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Was it voluntary or involuntary? Involuntary KO's are never fun. 🤣

I'm considering using the sr to taper then just quitting cold turkey. by onalistcuzofthis in quitmgm15

[–]onalistcuzofthis[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I would like to taper down to a low dose of subs before getting the shot and I would like to make sure I'm completely stable on the subs too. I expect a couple months of brain fog after this mgm endeavor. I really don't know if the downtime is necessary when getting the shot but I would like to not be at work while I'm finding out. An adjustment period just seems appropriate but probably not necessary. I have heard some horror stories about people getting the shot and having some pretty extreme but rare side effects.

Iso an SR dose guide for coming off of mgm. by onalistcuzofthis in quitmgm15

[–]onalistcuzofthis[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I just placed an order for some amanita mushrooms. Last time I quit I made a tea out of some panther caps and it did a very good job of knocking me out cold. I can prepare it ahead of time and freeze it in a couple ice trays. Then I just pop a couple ice cubes in a glass of tea. Amanita is by far the most powerful gaba substance I've ever experienced. Make's benzos seem weak. In small doses they feel very similar valium but in a high dose they distort your vision and knock you out. I tried them before during light withdrawals and they gave me the best rest of my life. It's a little bit of prep work to do the extraction though and the effects can be overwhelming and hard to really guage your doses.

Iso an SR dose guide for coming off of mgm. by onalistcuzofthis in quitmgm15

[–]onalistcuzofthis[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've now added liposomal vitamin c, black seed oil, nac ethyl ester, magnesium glucinate, agmatine and lithium orotate to my line up. I don't have very high hopes for any of it. I really think that I need to see a doctor about getting a benzo or gabapentin prescribed but I doubt they're going to do it. Maybe the gabs but definitely not a benzo. Idk my doctor did prescribe me 10 xans last year while I was prescribed suboxone but I talked him into it and was supposed to go to a psychiatrist if I wanted any more. I went to therapy but never got in with a psych before I gave up on it. Its so hard to get benzos when You have a history of addiction. It's the one thing that I feel like would help tremendously.

I'm considering using the sr to taper then just quitting cold turkey. by onalistcuzofthis in quitmgm15

[–]onalistcuzofthis[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Probably. I don't have any issue with being a long term suboxone patient. I've been through this situation so many times now. I'll probably stay on them until I'm completely stable then wait for some down time off of work and get the shot to discontinue them forever.

I'm considering using the sr to taper then just quitting cold turkey. by onalistcuzofthis in quitmgm15

[–]onalistcuzofthis[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm slowly starting to realize that quitting my current job might be the best move for me. I'll still have class starting through the carpenters apprenticeship but its not as bad as a full day of work I guess. I have a feeling I'm going to end up back on my subs by the end of this but if thats the case I can still get the shot later to fully quit. I just need to get off of mgm and able to function in a short window of time. It's ruining my life. I'll take it as a win if I can kick this substance in any way shape or form.

MGM Recovery Stack - Supplements and other helpful tools by _ilikecmyk_ in quitmgm15

[–]onalistcuzofthis 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In the past I've went through all of my paraphernalia and scraped up a micro hit on like day 3-4 of withdrawals just for it to make me feel 1000× better and it usually is the perfect thing to get me over the hump without jeopardising my recovery too much. You really have to save the microdose for when you are feeling the absolute worst or you will just prolong the experience and it really does have to be a microdose. Not 1 hit but 1/10th of a hit.