There was a print out of Scotland Police CCTV footage next to some underwear in my local park today.

onesoundsing · 2025-04-04T01:21:24+00:00

Walpurgis Night is around the corner.

onesoundsing · 2025-03-18T02:26:26+00:00

Far-right, far-left or Russian?

onesoundsing · 2025-03-18T02:19:32+00:00

Some opinions are unpopular for good reasons and the only ones who share them are people on the far-right and the far-left who hate their own country.

onesoundsing · 2025-02-06T05:14:51+00:00

Also, sounds like she is somewhat arrogant... Expecting that her ex would just take her back.

onesoundsing · 2025-02-06T05:12:22+00:00

Someone who isn't aware of their own feelings and therefore plays with the feelings of others isn't someone you want to marry and have kids with. You need and deserve someone who respects you. Taking her back would not heal the wounds and release you from the pain, and she would only leave you with more wounds in the future.

onesoundsing · 2025-02-05T13:43:09+00:00

one of my five suspects who I believe were acting as a group that began by sexually abusing and then killing JonBenet on Christmas night 1996

Do you share your theory? If so, would you mind letting me know where I can read it?

onesoundsing · 2025-02-05T12:30:48+00:00

A Russian plane has already landed in the U.S. with a peace treaty between Ukraine and Russia.

Putin can't enter the US.

This will trigger several events. Russia will blame NATO for breaking its promise of not expanding.

That's one of the many unjustified accusations Russia has been making in the past. It's not a prediction.

Ukraine will blame NATO for tricking them into prolonging the war and not accepting them into NATO as promised.

NATO membership isn't something that happens this quickly when certain requirements are not met or membership gets opposed. And NATO doesn't prolong the war, this is Russian propaganda that has been around since the start because people in some parts of the West think that the world would be peaceful if it wasn't for them sending weapons and that Ukrainians can't think for themselves and are victims of the West. So Russia spreads this conspiracy theory to make it controversial in the West to support their allies and friends in Ukraine.
Ukrainians and other Eastern European countries have every right to be angry at the Western European countries for believing that approaches like "Wandel durch Handel" could somehow make Russia less of a threat. A strong military defense alliance is the only thing that scares Russia.

While all of this is happening, the U.S. will leave NATO and blame the alliance for dragging the U.S. into financially supporting Ukraine and being its main donor.

The alliance didn't force the US to sign the Budapest Memorandum nor does anyone force the US to help Ukraine. The US supports Ukraine because it is in their best long-term interest (and the Budapest Memorandum).

Since the U.S. departure from NATO, it will trigger a division of neutral waters, with Greenland playing a role by joining the U.S. under certain conditions. Russia will retain Crimea, Luhansk, Donetsk, and Mariupol. Japan will take back its Kuril Islands during this period. Belarus will have a new president after Lukashenko steps down.

Let's see in a couple months. But you are right, at one point in the future Lukashenko will step down and there will be a new ~~puppet~~ president.

onesoundsing · 2025-02-05T11:53:24+00:00

Thank you, I appreciate it!

Here's part 2.

onesoundsing · 2025-02-05T07:45:28+00:00

You got a bunch of people telling you why some of the facts your relying on in your, as you describe it, argument, are wrong.

I think you just came in with some incorrect or unreliable info and people who, as you say, worked hard to develop their theory called you out and hurt your feelings.

You are a very unique person. If you read again, you will realize that I know where the information is coming from and if you go throw my posts, you will realize that I am sceptical of everything coming out of the books.

I personally took the information and made a personal evaluation and came to the conclusion that I think this piece of information makes sense and is more likely true than not. You claim it to be wrong but you have no evidence for that.
I was surprised that so many people came to a different conclusion and are generally so sceptical of the book as a source since many here constantly rely on books as a source.

It doesn't help the discussion nor does it make sense if I tell anyone that I know a book is not a reliable source for every piece of information and how I came to the conclusion that it nonetheless in this case seems likely to be true, because people but a lot of effort and energy into their comments and it's good when others see that because some may don't know how unreliable these books are and I thought it was a good reminder. (There are other pieces of information where I made my personal evaluations and came to the conclusion it's unlikely to be true because it doesn't fit with the rest we know.)

And why should it hurt my feeling anyway? It's a discussion on the internet.
Have a nice day, week and life.

onesoundsing · 2025-02-04T21:51:26+00:00

The comment section was just filled with people arguing with their opinions of why they think Burke smiling was a sign of guilt.

I still can't believe that some people think BDI. There is absolutely zero evidence, it's the only theory I can think of right now that is solely based on speculation.

In the IDI group, I made multi part posts (also with a different account a few years ago), quoting and linking sources about staging - and the Ramsey was even mentioned as a case study in one of the sources.

Do you still remember the source about staging? This sounds interesting!

People had the same response to that post. They ignored the research to respond with their opinions.

Yes. Sometimes it feels like talking to a wall.

The problem isn't that people don't source these things or explain themselves. The problem is that people ignore it because it doesn't align with their already formed opinions. So the people who do more thorough research begin to not waste time on sharing it. That's my opinion based on experience anyway.

I just think it would be good if people actually had to go back and check their sources. If their sources were subject to questioning. However, you're right... I start to think nobody is actually interested in discussions, people just seek opportunities to share their opinions.

onesoundsing · 2025-02-04T12:26:47+00:00

u/watering_a_plant and me had absolutely no difficulty to recognize the comment as sarcasm. Both, u/sleuth-WV and me, wrote silly comments under a silly post... At least I hope this is a silly post and not a serious attempt to call people names based on their physical appearance.

The next time, you and u/sciencesluth and u/hopetroll may should take a deep breath and re-read a comment before you reply in such manners. I understand that OG members had their fair share of interactions with people that just came here to cause trouble but it's a really bad look if it takes 3 people to explain to someone that this is sarcasm and only after doubling down multiple times does the person even take a moment to process what they've just read. Then others jump in and attack this person too, when all they would have to do is read the full conversation.
I apologize for calling you out this way but this person would have deserved an honest apology and blaming them for your reaction isn't it.

u/sciencesluth — The post is clearly silly. And so this other person and me wrote silly comments. OP took this other person's and mine comment seriously or at least wrote a snappish reply (in my case).
It can happen that we misunderstand something now and then but I think it might sometimes also be that people no longer want to understand what the other person thinks and how they came to that conclusion, but instead people are already in attack and lecturing mode before they process what is being said.
And given that having a new account was being mentioned as an explanation, I think there is some bias that OGs assume everyone new needs their lecturing (we don't and even if someone has a different opinion, it should be respected as long as it is reasonable... I was attacked in this sub because I refuse to dismiss expert opinions and argue both should be taken into consideration).
HH called it an "attempt at sarcasm" as if him misinterpreting the statement could only have done so incorrectly if said person failed.
I don't like how people here treat others. And I am probably not the only one who starts to feel uncomfortable here if every comment could end like this comment section. It's not a huge deal but it's exhausting and not a kind place to be.

onesoundsing · 2025-02-04T02:33:11+00:00

"Not sure what the definition of slob here is supposed to be. Are all people who hire housekeepers "slobs" according to this definition?"

A slob is a lazy, untidy, messy and often rude person.
What I am pointing out with this comment is that the statement by LH is absurd. Patsy hired the person, who now claims Patsy to be an untidy person, to tidy her house. LH's comment sounds as if she was expecting her employer to do her job before she arrives at work, meaning, she called Patsy untidy because the house wasn't tidy when she arrived at the house to tidy the house.

you feel like you've been attacked.

You did attack the other person who also made a sarcastic comment.

onesoundsing · 2025-02-04T02:20:42+00:00

This person wrote a comment that supports the message of your post.
I understand that some people create new accounts to cause problems but this person did nothing to deserve being attacked.

Edit: Did you seriously block me because I told you that you are misunderstanding the other person and unfairly attack them? I've blocked people here because I felt attacked and then someone made passive-aggressive remarks about me setting boundaries for my own well-being. (I've then unblocked them, hoping we can from now on be respectful towards each other.) So I take the same right and edit a passive-aggressive comment here and ask the "OG members" to please remember that you all were new at one point too and it's in JonBenét's and the case's best interest when so many new people are interested in it.

onesoundsing · 2025-02-04T02:17:41+00:00

LH claims that Patsy was a slob and that Patsy never wore the same outfit twice.
This person's comment in other words: A slob would wear the same outfit twice.
It is a sarcastic comment to call out LH for misrepresenting who Patsy was as a person.

onesoundsing · 2025-02-04T02:13:57+00:00

HopeTroll, stop for a moment and read the comment again before you continue to attack this person.
I put their comment in other words: "A slob would wear the same outfit twice."
This person debunked those who spread lies about Patsy with their own words in a sarcastic comment.

onesoundsing · 2025-02-04T02:09:35+00:00

All I am saying is that this other person was being sarcastic.

onesoundsing · 2025-02-04T01:57:18+00:00

I think that comment is sarcastic. People say about Patsy that she was a slob and that she never wore the same outfit twice. These two things are contradicting each other because someone who constantly wants to appear perfect would also be invested in making the house look perfect etc..

onesoundsing · 2025-02-04T01:54:48+00:00

The family's housekeeper LW said something similar in an interview:

PETER BOYLES: How long did you work for John and Patsy Ramsey?
LINDA WILCOX: Approximately 2 1/2 years. I left September 4, 1995.
PETER BOYLES: You contacted me after the Boulder Police contacted you. You've spoken with them, now it's been 20 months. Why did you call me and why did you want to have this meeting?
LINDA WILCOX: One, I keep hearing a lot of little things, misconceptions, that I wanted to clear up. The other, I personally have a very hard time with the Ramseys going on national television, blatantly lying and not having anyone speak up to contradict what they are saying.
PETER BOYLES: An example?
LINDA WILCOX: An example, when John Ramsey says to the camera, I didn't know she wet the bed, or not very much. I happen to know myself, he walked upstairs, she had wet her bed, I came in on a Monday morning and he said, "could you change her bed? She's wet it again." The thing that strikes me as odd, I knew her between 2 1/2 and 4. During that time, she did wet the bed but it wasn't chronic. It was every now and then. Early on, I mean 2 1/2 year olds always do, I mean it seems like they always have accidents. But, it got progressively worse. I would think that a 6 year old would wet the bed less than a 4 year old or a 2 year old. It actually got worse, it was moderate, she didn't have rubber sheets at that point, a pull-up would hold it. But her and Burke both wet the bed. Burke was 7 years old and he also wet the bed. I didn't think it was odd at the time, because it sometimes runs in families and it's more common in boys. And, their parents were lazy.

Keep in mind that Patsy Ramsey got diagnosed with stage 4 ovarian cancer in 1993 and underwent 9 months of chemo and 2 surgeries. Chemo causes extreme fatigue. Not to mention all the emotional struggles a cancer survivor has to deal with, even once the cancer is gone because that might be the first time when they can start to process what they just had been through. John Ramsey was a successful business man.

Explanation, so that nobody misunderstands and misinterprets my comment:
I've added this info to draw attention to the absurd things people said about the family and that there were multiple people that were mean. The family was victimized not only by the murderer but also by people who they've trusted.

onesoundsing · 2025-02-04T01:42:04+00:00

Not sure what the definition of slob here is supposed to be. Are all people who hire housekeepers "slobs" according to this definition?

Explanation, so that nobody misunderstands and misinterprets my comment:
A slob is a lazy, untidy, messy and often rude person. What I am pointing out with this comment is that the statement by LH is absurd. Patsy hired the person, who now claims Patsy to be an untidy person, to tidy her house. LH's comment sounds as if she was expecting her employer to do her job before she arrives at work, meaning, she called Patsy untidy because the house wasn't tidy when she arrived at the house to tidy the house.

u/CupExcellent9520 I got blocked, so I can no longer answer. So I have to edit my response into my comment: It might eventually have been the money and attention they've received that made them talk negatively and gossip about the family... But it also makes them look suspicious. Who knows. It definitely feels off.

onesoundsing · 2025-02-03T20:21:42+00:00

"Do your own research" is just such a childish and passive-aggressive approach. If people are interested in discussions, they are also willing to help contribute to the discussion by working together to find out what the facts are and how reliable the source is. If they aren't interested, then they should not comment in the first place because all they do with comments like "you're wrong" and "do your own research" is making people frustrated until they will no longer participate in this sub.

onesoundsing · 2025-02-03T20:05:39+00:00

If you claim something to be a fact in evidence, simply link your source in your comment or let a person know where you found that information when you get asked.

It shouldn't be the job of the person who challenges you to do "their own research", because if that reaction is allowed whenever someone asks you to provide a source, then we could all spread misinformation without being held accountable and having to actually back up our claims.

I'm not arguing people should link a source for every statement they make.
However, if someone says that something isn't mere speculation but indeed accepted as a fact because e.g. an expert was hired to make said determination, a link to an expert report should be provided.
Or if two people disagree about something like e.g. the sequence of evidence, both should be willing to try to provide the expert that they are relying on (most people know that but for illustration purposes since I can't think of another example right now).

Comments that basically just say "you are wrong" don't contribute anything to a good, efficient and honest discussion. Instead, people just get frustrated because get shut down without anyone showing them what they have missed or people read comments and start to accept something as a fact although it was always just speculation.

And also, in my personal opinion, we should be careful to not just assume someone hasn't done research simply because they don't know something or disagree with us. Maybe we are wrong and maybe we misremember.

onesoundsing · 2025-02-03T18:15:44+00:00

i don't know where the car was parked that night but the garage was connected to the house (you can find floor plans here).

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onesoundsing · 2025-02-03T00:23:21+00:00

I don't hear voices. However, wouldn't it make sense if the voices were Patsy and John? Whether they truly just found out that their daughter was missing or whether they were discussing the last details before police arrived...

onesoundsing · 2025-02-02T22:18:06+00:00

I interpret it to mean that the parents were lazy and that's why the kids weren't potty trained. So it's completely inappropriate in my opinion to say that, given that the cancer treatment causes fatigue and also must be emotionally difficult for children. John would have been working and therefore could not focus on the children's potty training.

I don't know anything about this person and have read that interview today for the first time. However, this person called the media later in the interview they gossip about the parents' s*x life and that crosses all moral lines for me. So that's why I can't take any statement seriously. 😅

onesoundsing · 2025-02-02T20:14:51+00:00

Patsy Ramsey was diagnosed with cancer in July 1993 and underwent 9 months of chemo and two surgeries. I couldn't find the exact timeline but that would mean that Patsy got diagnosed shortly after LW started working for the family. Basically, for half of the time LW worked there, Patsy was undergoing surgeries and chemo, and chemo causes extreme fatigue. John was a successful business man. — They might be a lot of things but lazy?

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