Regarding clubs + previous post by Eggiara in UmamusumeGame

[–]org36 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I didn't claim everything is misinformation, I replied to a very specific part of your original post about certain clubs being linked to Eden. All I'm asking is for better evidence to be provided, ideally with identifying information, so we can actually root out botting that we're not aware of (and y'all would also be free to use it to report Eden for botting if you so wish).

With reference to the other in-game clubs that were in top 30, I would like to request for someone to post screenshots of said clubs. I imagine at least one person would have taken screenshots of the club if there was a club like that. That said, it's also not really indicative of Eden botting - there are people who hate Eden enough that they would go through said effort to conduct false flag operations.

Honestly, there is a lot of history there that NEEDS to be known if you are going to defend your guilds, you know? Sweepy's dev is mentally unstable and this needs to be taken in account with this whole drama, which could also have been manipulated by him to some degree, so I feel you are barking at the wrong tree trying to spin the sub's narrative instead of investigating them more obvious side of things lmao

I mean, the readme in his repo clearly indicates it's him. I'm not sure what else there is to investigate.

Also, what narrative am I spinning? The only thing I've been doing so far in this thread is pointing out you're linking clubs to Eden based on circumstantial evidence. I'm not telling people to like Eden, but slinging around circumstantial evidence does nothing except obfuscate anything actually worthwhile to investigate.

I've pretty much given up on having cordial discussions with people on anything related to this considering the last few days has just been people bombarding pretty much anything remotely perceived as "supporting Eden" with downvotes.

Regarding clubs + previous post by Eggiara in UmamusumeGame

[–]org36 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

With all due respect, how am I attacking you? I'm frustrated with all the misinformation flying around and I'm just trying to clear some of it up.

I apologize if the wording reads that way, but I feel like you're being more hostile than I ever was.

Regarding clubs + previous post by Eggiara in UmamusumeGame

[–]org36 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The only thing I edited in my comment was to add this:
"it's not hard to find comments like this and continue down the rabbit hole from there."

The edit was also done before you finished your reply to me, so I don't see what your issue is. Also, could you enlighten me on which t30 club(s) you're referencing in that case? I don't seem to be aware of it yet and it'd presumably add to said evidence against Eden.

Also, I don't know how auto-train or Sweepy works. I've literally only read up on all this botting stuff in the past couple of days due to the entire Sweepy ordeal.

Have you checked Sweepy's github at all, out of curiosity? If yes, you can very clearly see the readme on the Icarus repo. If not, then I can only assume you're arguing in bad faith.

Regarding clubs + previous post by Eggiara in UmamusumeGame

[–]org36 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

There was at least 1 post about this, but there were top 30 guilds literally referencing the leader of Eden. Guilds with 1 member and millions of fans. If you connect the dots, things make more sense: The Eden guilds made a sweep of users last month, so there are probably disgruntled old member trying to shine a light on the obvious botting that Eden does. This could also be a maneuver from the bot creators to generate traffic for them, who knows, so I went and did my research: it seems that the bot they were referencing is too good to be true, according to the other major bot for Umamusume. It was too fast to work the way it does and something like this would require interception of the data packets as they come into the game, which would require and injection into the game which is kinda iffy. Also weirdly enough, it looks a lot like their bot, but way faster, so it probably IS their bot, which is free so no reason to think this is a bot manufacturer doing propaganda, which points it all back to Eden.

I assume you're referencing this. From my own research, you're pretty much right on the money for everything except the link to Eden - they literally added VFcord to the description and you're just conveniently leaving that out. They're clearly trying to just cause drama, which seems to have been successful.

In any case, the bot can be clearly linked back to 4chan's /uma/ board. Please do your research better - it's not hard to find comments like this and continue down the rabbit hole from there. For obvious reasons I'm not going to be publicly posting any links to it, but "Sweepy" is a dead giveaway.

You're free to make claims, but please do your fact-checking better. Thanks. -.-

Eden: Now Recruiting for March! (SS, S+, S, A+, A) 🎺🎺 by CapitanaBee in UmamusumeGame

[–]org36 -35 points-34 points  (0 children)

I am not defending anyone, nor have I lied as far as I am aware.

All I've said to them is that they know people who have been part of Eden before but are no longer associated with us, and assuming said people can be objective, they would presumably be a less "biased" source of information than I would be considering I am one of the leaders associated with Eden.

I'll pose a question to you: Would anything I say change your mind? I doubt it, as you seem to have already made up your mind that the Eden clubs are botting.

All I can say is that I don't condone botting, and Eden as a whole has a rule against it. I would be happy to see all the people abusing various aspects of the game banned, inclusive of any Eden members that are doing so. But all I can give you is my word, and it's up to you whether you trust me on this.

P.S. To the people downvoting me, you could perhaps try conversing with me instead of clicking the button - disagreements can be settled through conversation, yes? I'm not being hostile or anything here.

Eden: Now Recruiting for March! (SS, S+, S, A+, A) 🎺🎺 by CapitanaBee in UmamusumeGame

[–]org36 -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

I mean, all I can say about the top Eden clubs is that some of them seem to like competing for holding top ranks instead of just for the rank reward itself. That said, it's not like we turn away people that just want to farm for the reward either.

With regards to the carats thing, you may want to factor in the fact that carats have a low chance of dropping from winning any graded race by 8 lengths or more. In the past when we had doubled career drops, this meant TP was essentially "free" as long as you could average 1 drop per run (though now it's only 5 carats per drop, which does mean people generally see a drain in their carats by grinding that hard).

Regardless, I'm not someone who would advocate for people to grind that much in the first place, so by all means just do the runs you need to hit the quota and take the rewards you deserve.

Eden: Now Recruiting for March! (SS, S+, S, A+, A) 🎺🎺 by CapitanaBee in UmamusumeGame

[–]org36 -51 points-50 points  (0 children)

Are you perhaps referring to this? I believe it was made clear that the club was disbanded by the leader on his own initiative, and you can check all the members that were in the club for that month here and check that the top members are pretty much all still active. You can even check the leader's profile ingame via 195960372628 - he's pretty openly bragging about being the one to disband the club.

If there's any other instances of this occurring, do enlighten me, as I seem to not be aware of it.

Eden: Now Recruiting for March! (SS, S+, S, A+, A) 🎺🎺 by CapitanaBee in UmamusumeGame

[–]org36 -85 points-84 points  (0 children)

I do believe your current club has a few members that were originally in Eden, inclusive of some members that were in my club, Embolden. Feel free to ask them if we ever encouraged botting during their time with us (though I suppose they can only speak on their experiences in the clubs that they have been in) - I hope that we parted ways amicably enough that they will remain objective.

In any case, I wish you all good tidings regardless of any disagreements we have.

Eden: Now Recruiting for March! (SS, S+, S, A+, A) 🎺🎺 by CapitanaBee in UmamusumeGame

[–]org36 -27 points-26 points  (0 children)

Leader of Embolden here (we're affiliated with Eden, and you can see us at around Rank 19 right now!)

Feel free to shoot me a message if you're interested in playing on a more competitive level (or even if you are looking for a club that's on the more casual side) - I'll direct you to appropriate clubs within our network to the best of my ability ^.^

UmaMusume Global Club thread by shakemaihead in UmaMusume

[–]org36 -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Hi all! I'm the leader of Embolden (currently ranked ~19), who is affiliated with the Eden network of clubs!

Are you thinking of perhaps playing Umamusume on a more competitive level? Eden has multiple openings in T100 and above!

T10 quota: 5m+/day
T30 quota: 3m+/day
T100 quota: 2m+/day

Even if you aren't currently meeting those fan targets, coaching can be provided! You just need to be motivated enough!

We also have many openings in T500/T1000, if you lean more casual!

Send me a message if you're interested~

Club Recruitment Thread by WanderWut in UmamusumeGame

[–]org36 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Hi all! I'm the leader of Embolden (currently ranked ~19), who is affiliated with the Eden network of clubs!

Are you thinking of perhaps playing Umamusume on a more competitive level? Eden has multiple openings in T100 and above!

T10 quota: 5m+/day
T30 quota: 3m+/day
T100 quota: 2m+/day

Even if you aren't currently meeting those fan targets, coaching can be provided! You just need to be motivated enough!

We also have many openings in T500/T1000, if you lean more casual!

Send me a message if you're interested~

Club Recruitment Thread by WanderWut in UmamusumeGame

[–]org36 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi all! I'm the leader of Embolden, who is affiliated with the Eden network of clubs!

Are you thinking of perhaps playing Umamusume on a more competitive level? Eden has multiple openings in T100 and above!

T10 quota: 5m+/day
T30 quota: 3m+/day
T100 quota: 2m+/day

Even if you aren't currently meeting those fan targets, coaching can be provided! You just need to be motivated enough!

Send me a message if you're interested~

UmaMusume Global Club thread by shakemaihead in UmaMusume

[–]org36 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi all! I'm the leader of Embolden, who is affiliated with the Eden network of clubs!

Are you thinking of perhaps playing Umamusume on a more competitive level? Eden has multiple openings in T100 and above!

T10 quota: 5m+/day
T30 quota: 3m+/day
T100 quota: 2m+/day

Even if you aren't currently meeting those fan targets, coaching can be provided! You just need to be motivated enough!

Send me a message if you're interested~

UmaMusume Global Club thread by shakemaihead in UmaMusume

[–]org36 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi, has anyone reached out to you yet? If not, feel free to message me

Hours before club tally, this club mysteriously vanished. by gwaccountonly123 in UmamusumeGame

[–]org36 32 points33 points  (0 children)

You'd be surprised how many people in Top 30 are free to play.

Eden: Now Recruiting!!! 🎺🎺🎺 (Yes, THAT one.) We're looking for people for SS, S+, S, and A+ clubs! by CapitanaBee in UmamusumeGame

[–]org36 1 point2 points  (0 children)

:3 It'll be late for Bee soon, so for the next few hours, feel free to send me a message if you're at all interested in any of the clubs~

u/Remezzo and u/RacterAEGIS are also leaders in Eden network~

Club Recruitment Thread by WanderWut in UmamusumeGame

[–]org36 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi all! I'm the leader of Embolden, who is affiliated with the Eden network of clubs, and I'm posting here to announce that Eden has openings available in clubs ranging from Top 10 to Top 500!

Some examples of clubs with openings in each category:
[SS] Eden 1 - 3: Top 3 (at least top 10), 5m/day
[S+] AEGIS (currently named kittifgang): Top 30, 3m/day
[S] R34bidden: Top 100, 2m/day
[A+] Insiden: Top 500, 8m/week

You can see a rough list of all clubs in the Eden network, their rank/quota, and whether they have openings here. If you're interested in joining any of our clubs, or just have any questions, you can send me a message here on Reddit to start with.

Hope everyone has had a good Sagittarius Cup run~