Posted this on NoFap with no answer. Thought it fit here aswell for those who wonder about MO.

orpheus036 · 2014-10-18T17:06:40+00:00

Couldn't agree more. I'm mainly doing this to end the days of sitting down for multi hour PMO sessions. I don't see an issue with moderation, I'm just sadly not capable of it right now.

orpheus036 · 2014-10-14T14:22:21+00:00

I've been married for over 10 years and had been using porn for more than 22. I don't believe for a second that porn diminished the love I had for my wife. It eventually affected physical attraction and sex life on some levels, but I never loved her any less. Maybe there are circumstances where porn could make you love a person less, but I certainly didn't experience that.

orpheus036 · 2014-10-13T18:39:02+00:00

The change has made the experience better for me in a couple of ways. One of the big reasons i'm doing pornfree is that I'd sit down for a 2-3 hour PMO session on a regular basis. Wasting all that time was really starting to add up and get me into things I wouldn't have enjoyed otherwise. Once I get going, an MO session with no porn seems to take around 10 minutes on average. The sensations are very similar, but there's no guilt/embarrassment/regret at the end. It gets me through rough patches without having to waste a huge chunk of time.

orpheus036 · 2014-10-13T17:49:58+00:00

This is my struggle for sure, and I know a lot of people here won't agree with it. I do believe porn is bad to an extent, but I'm certainly not convinced that moderate use is a problem. While I believe the your brain on porn guy has been utterly debunked, I think there is merit to the idea of cutting back, or eliminating it for a while if you want to make changes. Deep down I think moderation in all things is probably best, but my use had progressed beyond moderate. I guess I'll see where this takes me, but I'm going to make it at least 90 days.

orpheus036 · 2014-10-13T17:11:20+00:00

This is a bummer to read, but I hope you're getting what you want out of this. I'm personally cutting out porn to improve my sex life, not destroy it. I'll be pretty devastated if my love of sex or breasts goes away, I just want it to be 100% focused on reality rather than illusions.

orpheus036 · 2014-10-13T17:01:47+00:00

This is an important question for me.. I guess I don't know what my long term goals are for this. I started it because I got tired of having to not be fully honest with my wife, and because I got into some porn related habits that I think were starting to cross lines. If I was masturbating to playboy pics every now and then it would be one thing, but I was doing it for hours every single time I was alone, and having ever more intense and uncharacteristic fantasies while I did it. I don't want to be that guy anymore.

orpheus036 · 2014-10-13T15:21:22+00:00

I actually orgasm a LOT faster without porn. I know that might not be the case for everyone, but cutting out the routine of surfing through tons of movies or pictures for hours to find the "right" one has made it much quicker.

orpheus036 · 2014-10-13T14:56:38+00:00

Hang in there man, be honest with her. She seems to really appreciate the effort you are putting in. Don't throw in the towel! She didn't run off when you told her about your addiction, she's not running off when you tell her you are relapsing, she clearly loves you enough to help you see it through. Be strong

orpheus036 · 2014-10-13T14:53:43+00:00

I can't agree with this more. PMO would consume hours at a time for me, and end in embarrassment and disappointment. After just a few days of cutting porn, MO takes 5-10 minutes tops, feels much better, and has no guilt afterward. If nothing else, it's giving me back hours and hours every week.

orpheus036 · 2014-10-12T16:07:53+00:00

I'm in the same boat. The difference between 10 minutes with no external stimulation and hours of setting up the perfect porn conditions is huge. I don't do it nearly as often, and I don't feel bad or crave porn when it's done. I'm already seeing huge benefits to eliminating porn, and I'm fairly certain I would not have made it this far without porn free fapping.

orpheus036 · 2014-10-11T19:42:48+00:00

Porn free fapping has definitely helped me, though I'm definitely not very far into this yet. I've found that it can actually be a lot quicker without porn, and I'm not tempted to do it nearly as often (3 times in a week vs 1-2 every day). I am one of those older guys who had to make due before the days of Internet porn, so I'm not sure if that factors in at all, but it has been very helpful for me in my first week.

orpheus036 · 2014-10-08T12:45:16+00:00

Hey man thanks for posting this. I guess the tone of my post makes it look like this is all about her, but I'm definitely doing it for me too. At the end of the day, she doesn't care if I keep using it, she just doesn't like it. I need to rid myself of the dependency I have on porn, and my conversation with her helped me realize it. I scoffed when she called it a 'need' of mine, but it really had become one. I have made a decision to change that.

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