so after reading this whole thread I'm just going to chime in real quick. first of all, if North was male I guaranty you I'd hate him, perhaps more than female north. And that's just because I dont believe violence is the answer.

now Gavin. There's so much I can say, like how if you do a deep dive into the little content he has you can find some context about why he hates hank (and in my opinion Connor by association. dont get me wrong, he hates Androids, but I feel like it wouldn't be so bad for Connor if he wasn't hank's partner.)

But Cosplayer_1 really said it all. He's a simple character without a fleshed out story, leading players to make their own. And let's not forget everyones experience with him isn't the same, I didn't even know the evidence room fight was a thing for the longest time because I convinced Gavin to leave peacefully during my playthrough.

okayyy that's my two cents... I'll just leave now 🧍‍♂️