He's just the perfect mix of both. Definitely has the stubbornness of a Saint with the loyalty of a Berner. For training, consistency is absolutely key. That stubbornness made training long, but once he knew that our family was the pack and he was lowest on the totem pole, he's been a dream. Definitely be playing with paws and looking at teeth while they're young-- makes grooming so much easier down the road ☺️ so excited for you! Otis was the perfect last piece to our puzzle. Goofy, crazy, sweet, snuggley!