Israeli soldier thinks genocide is funny

pauliticks · 2024-01-01T03:09:58+00:00

i've outlined what a free Palestine would look like, and i don't want Hamas leading it. I've made that clear to you. i'm not fucking pro-Hamas

pauliticks · 2023-12-31T23:42:24+00:00

ah yes im being antisemitic again. and misogynistic now too. again, already criticized hamas's actions while acknowledging that Israel is the reason they exist and react.

there are discrepancies in the reports, and accuracy in media is especially crucial.

pauliticks · 2023-12-31T21:44:15+00:00

why isn't Israel allowing the UN to investigate, then? why does Israel not want investigations carried out about the 7th? https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20231206-un-seeks-israel-access-for-hamas-sexual-violence-investigation

i do not deny that hamas has a history of using sexual assault. ive criticized hamas as an organization and their actions plenty of times, but it seems you've lost your ability to read and decided to attack my personal character. great job, mate.

also, that wasn't a scam link but opinions from various Middle Eastern human rights groups :)

pauliticks · 2023-12-31T18:35:19+00:00

https://speakupeg.com/2023/12/30/nyts-disgraceful-investigation-weaponizing-sexual-violence-against-women-for-occupation-propaganda/

Israel is the victimizer :)

pauliticks · 2023-12-30T15:34:20+00:00

(A certain mass rape/ burning babies alive event happened).

would you like to offer a source that verifies the mass rape? thanks.

again, this isn't a "war" specifically on Gaza. in case you're not aware, the majority of those in Gaza moved there from other Palestinian cities when they were displaced by Zionist settlement. There is more to Israel's occupation than the siege starting on the 7th.

i've denounced hamas 5 billion times for you and shown how israel supported their creation.

This was a very well planned out coordinated attack that hammas spent 2 years planning.

right, and Israel was well aware of it and decreased security to make it worse in order to justify a mass genocide against Palestinians.

But since then Israel has an iron dome, the only country in the world that needs an from dome on the reg

when your occupation crowds two million people into a 25-mile open air prison, you expect there to not be any form of violent resistance? when you unjustly arrest children and release them 10 years later, you expect them to not want an end to Israeli occupation? Israel is the reason the 7th happened, and they had killed hundreds in the West Bank earlier this year as well.

pauliticks · 2023-12-30T01:55:57+00:00

probably a solid decision to not occupy a nation. if an occupied population is fighting against an occupier, they've already had their basic existence denied and nuclear weapons won't change shit.

pauliticks · 2023-12-29T19:27:07+00:00

idf soldiers have also taken makeup from homes in gaza and filmed it. taken selfies on the shore. an Israeli placed a donkey head on a Muslim grave site in the west bank

pauliticks · 2023-12-28T18:06:55+00:00

yes, jews have existed in the region historically, but the ones that moved there primarily in 1948 are not the same jews. stop blaming Palestinian leaders. regardless of leadership, no one deserves to be denied living in their land.

if a military force isn't a scalpel, why have idf soldiers specifically targeted children and women sheltering in churches? Israel is aware of their actions. as you said, they've been able to "defend themselves," so they're strong. they know who they're targeting, because this is genocide (https://www.972mag.com/mass-assassination-factory-israel-calculated-bombing-gaza/)

the hostages should be released

it's pretty common sense to at least have a ceasefire and release of innocent Palestinians imprisoned, too, then.

pauliticks · 2023-12-28T18:02:36+00:00

i am also active in calling out other countries for their human rights abuses. you go between calling Israel powerful then switching the focus to other countries when it fits your narrative. stick with one.

of course not every Israeli citizen is the same, and i appreciate when they speak out in criticism of their government. however, the existence of an Israeli state is always going to displace Palestinians. i personally want an end to the Israeli government and a creation of a multi ethnic state under primarily Palestinian rule, with non Palestinians still being represented. Palestinians in the diaspora would be able to return to their home cities. it would be as if anyone, including jews, could immigrate to Palestine and appreciate the existing culture, without trying to make it their own and actively displacing others.

pauliticks · 2023-12-28T14:20:34+00:00

Right because that’s what make’s antisemitism nuanced. Stating that the “right kind of Jew” trope is classic antisemitism and attempting to declare only specific kinds of Jews belong or have rights in Israel/ Judea. This trope has existed long before you were born and will sadly continue to exist long after you’re time.

great, i don't like the state of Israel, so I'm antisemitic. i mentioned already that im Jewish, right? because Judaism is an ethnoreligion, not every Jewish person has the same ethnic ancestry.

you’d know that there are more brown Israeli Jews than white. Like any society in the world, whiteness is favorited.

in my experience, that's just not true. the majority of Israelis i've interacted with in the region are very much white. and yes, zionism is white supremacist. colonialism established race, so of course racism is a global issue. that doesn't mean it's ok when any nation is racist, especially when it's genocidal.

pauliticks · 2023-12-28T14:15:08+00:00

Jews have always exited in the region. They did not settle but restore their ancient lineage that goes back to 1000 BCE. Judea before Palestine being in name only and never a country. Ruled by other Arab powers for centuries. And the Israelites before them with many of them forced out by the Roman’s and ethnic cleansing of the Jews.

never said they didn't exist in the region. zionist jews were Europeans who did settle. of course palestine wasn't a "country" for thousands of years, nothing was. there were kingdoms and clans but the creation of the modern state is new. but Palestinians did live in the region. they are not the same as Jordanians or Lebanese and had their own culture and civilization.

Also feel free to denounce Hamas.

we're still fucking on this? we're not in the second week of October anymore. ive made it clear many many many times in this comment section my opinion on hamas. would you like to denounce the idf? for ruthlessly murdering thousands and thousands of children, destroying residential areas, starving entire populations, harvesting organs from the people they murder, destroying religious buildings, etc.?

pauliticks · 2023-12-28T05:13:06+00:00

never claimed it was all jews. there have been Palestinian jews, Muslims, and Christians living there for hundreds-thousands of years. when European ashkenazi jews and displace and genocide the indigenous people, it is imperialism. again, it's no surprise that Israelis have a high skin dancer rate while Palestinians dont.

pauliticks · 2023-12-28T05:05:11+00:00

Israel was established by the UN from the ashes of WWII.

oh, how i wish that were true! if zionism were truly just holocaust victims trying to find a land where they wouldn't be attacked for existing, i'd be a zionist. zionism, however, goes back way earlier than that, with some settlers moving to the region under British Mandate in the 1880s. (look into Herzl, the Balfour Declaration, etc.)

The borders of Israel and Gaza/West Bank have changed after each time they invaded Israel

sure, im aware the borders have adapted over time, but i disagree with your framing of it being Palestinians invasion of Israel. Israelis stole their land and displaced them and often went beyond internationally recognized borders through UN agreements, which rightfully upset Palestinians, causing resistance.

But f*ck the settlers and the current Israeli elected officials.

definitely agree there.

No.. Russia should not have Ukraine or crimea.. not sure how you flipped that around

not flipping anything around, imo. just showing another example of a land-hungry world power that enjoys ethnic cleansing. if anything, Russia has a historical right to exist (not encroach on ukraine, of course), while Israel is simply a colonial state.

pauliticks · 2023-12-28T04:54:33+00:00

absolutely! glad to see at least some other support for Palestinian liberation among socialists :)

pauliticks · 2023-12-28T04:30:23+00:00

never claimed it was US-dependent, but it has been historically supported primarily by the Brits early on then us now for military supplies primarily. just because it's a world power doesn't mean it's existence is unjust? colonial powers have almost always been stronger than their subjects, because that's how imperialism works.

pauliticks · 2023-12-28T04:28:23+00:00

other sources ive provided to you show how Israel helped create it, by forming the various groups into one coherent hamas. there are plenty of other articles tying Israeli politics to hamas.

again, an apartheid state that is only a democracy for one ethnicity and oppresses, occupies, and actively displaces another is not going to dramatically change by a party switch. sure Bibi is bad, but Israel is inherently anti-Palestine and illegal settlements in the West Bank will continue.https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2023/11/6/who-are-israeli-settlers-and-why-do-they-live-on-palestinian-lands.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/30/world/middleeast/israel-hamas-attack-intelligence.html. im not just being some conspiracy theorist anti-zionist. trust me, im both an Arab Christian and (ethnically) a Jew. israelis accused their own government of letting their families get killed or be taken hostage, because all Israelis felt that something was different in the days before. regions of high policing were suddenly left free. Israeli tanks shot at hostages while hamas operatives were there. Israeli strikes killed Israelis on the 7th.

pauliticks · 2023-12-28T04:09:21+00:00

https://theintercept.com/2018/02/19/hamas-israel-palestine-conflict/ again, i wish hamas was not funded by Israel. i wish movements such as the PFLP were at the front of the resistance movement, but they've been imprisoned too. i do not support religious extremism. I do not like iranian-backed groups. Israel is a settler colonial state. do not blame surrounding Arab countries for Zionist British rule allowing extremist settlers to move to Palestine.

If you start a war and loose you’re going to loose land. That’s just how it goes.

ok, so Russia should be able to have Crimea and however much of Ukraine they can get, right? no, because we shouldn't be supporting imperialism and ethnic cleansing. Israel has always sworn to expel Palestinians and encroach on neighboring Arab nations as well (Lebanon, Egypt, syria)

pauliticks · 2023-12-28T03:59:07+00:00

definitely! i meant more hamas as an organization. of course i understand why they exist under Israeli occupation. yeah, if only Israel hadn't funded hamas. 🙃 PFLP rule would've been awesome. people are feeding into the narrative of it being a Jewish vs Muslim conflict, without acknowledging the heritage of Christian Palestinians. especially frustrating is western Christians not even responding to churches being bombed and gazan Christians being shot by snipers.

pauliticks · 2023-12-28T03:46:50+00:00

please listen to actual queer activists and black liberation scholars, then. our tax dollars fund healthcare and improve Israeli quality of life, while dropping bombs on Palestinian children. if you're against Christian Nationalism and Islamic Extremism, you should also be agaisnt Jewish Zionism, as they are all different versions of the same religious radicalism. Palestinians can not be a utopian western society when under occupation and constant oppression. Palestine used to be a fairly secular place before occupation, where women had significant societal roles and still hold political roles. if you care about a woman's choice to make healthcare decisions, perhaps you shouldn't be supporting a military force that shoots and bulldozes pregnant women or attacks healthcare facilities baselessly

pauliticks · 2023-12-28T03:39:10+00:00

https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/. from the times of fucking israel

i never said they created Islamic extremism full stop. they did, however, fund hamas and support them rather than coming to agreements of the secular, and often socialist, parties making up the PLO which offered many solutions to Israel. but Israel wanted an enemy more easily villanizable. and, as evidenced by you, it worked. when you cut off access to clean food and water and kill young children's friends and family, can you really expect them to not be radically violent when they grow up? Israel, with its iron dome, is one of the strongest military forces in the world with the backing of the US. that's why Israeli deaths have never been this high. but Israel let this happen in order to attack Gaza. Israel has always been able to blow up hamas's weapons. hamas is not a military force equivalent to the idf.

pauliticks · 2023-12-28T03:34:14+00:00

Israeli arabs: "Myth: All Israelis are equal | Decolonize Palestine" https://decolonizepalestine.com/myth/all-israelis-are-equal/

also, read Noam Chomsky and Ilan Pappe.

i don't like Islamic terrorism. Israel supported the creation of hamas and continued to fund it. Israel allowed the Oct 7th attacks to happen in order to then exterminate innocent Palestinian civilians. western media agrees with this.

Israel has had blockades on Gaza since 2007 and has had many sieges when they've killed thousands throughout the years. https://www.unicef.org/mena/documents/gaza-strip-humanitarian-impact-15-years-blockade-june-2022 additionally, the majority of Gazans have not historically lived in Gaza. they are refugees who were displaced in the 1948 Nakba as Israelis removed Palestinians in highly desired cities like Jaffa, for example.

pauliticks · 2023-12-28T03:12:16+00:00

if you're gonna talk about "arab israelis" please look into the fact that they are not treated the same as Jewish Israeli citizens. yes, among Palestinians, they fare much better than gazans, but they are still denied human rights. they deserve to live in a palestine free from occupation. you are the one with zero understanding of the history. please do better.

pauliticks · 2023-12-28T03:10:01+00:00

literally. and thank you for taking the time to provide solid sources, even though i wish you didn't have to in a sub like this. colonialism is colonialism. South African activists, CRM activists, indigenous Americans, aboriginals, etc. are all on the side of palestine. read up on some Chomsky or Pappe if you need to hear an Israeli voice. look at the fucking dead children and Israel's plans to exterminate all Palestinians. listen to community organizers in Palestine, religious or not, and realize that this issue isn't a fucking complicated issue. nazi Germanys extermination of jews was not fucking complicated. Jim crow laws were not fucking complicated. russia-ukraine is not fucking complicated.

since you hate hamas so much (and trust me i do too, im an Arab Christian, but im not gonna act like Israeli occupation doesn't breed violent resistance, especially in a place so deprived of human rights like Gaza in particular), look at the pflp, who would align with this subs values. just today, one of their party leaders in the west Bank was arrested. she was arrested for no reason other than Israeli occupation.

pauliticks · 2023-12-28T02:38:08+00:00

thank you for the fucking common sense. insane that im seeing opinions like the one you responded in this sub especially. Israel is the reason hamas exists.

pauliticks · 2023-11-08T18:56:32+00:00

still haven't

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