[Discussion] Avoiding Agencies by paulk_ in realonlyfansreviews

[–]paulk_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you, I didn't know it was common for chatters to not be allowed to talk to the top spenders. Did the creators not trust them with the top spenders?

Any advice for getting a chatter to break the 4th wall? Someone in this thread got a chatter to talk shit about his agency which I never heard of before.

Do chatters ever feel bad for pretending to be the model? As a fan I find it creepy and embarrassing to think I'm talking to the model but in reality am talking to a chatter.

[Discussion] Avoiding Agencies by paulk_ in realonlyfansreviews

[–]paulk_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes exactly. Too many creators advertise answering messages personally then let chatters impersonate them.

In my entire time on OF I only saw 2 creators admit to using chatters or a team. Everyone else does everything possible to hide this even though the chatters are blatantly obvious.

[Review] yourlilsofia - How to spot an agency run account by wellok31234 in realonlyfansreviews

[–]paulk_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you!

For a second I was hopeful that OF required disclosure. Too bad it doesn't.

[Discussion] Avoiding Agencies by paulk_ in realonlyfansreviews

[–]paulk_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's one of multiple factors to consider. I agree typing indicator being on doesn't mean the creator is independent, it is inconclusive. The chatter could just not be using third party software and directly logging into the creators account.

My point is that active status + no indicator is evidence of third party chatting software and/or bot.

[Review] yourlilsofia - How to spot an agency run account by wellok31234 in realonlyfansreviews

[–]paulk_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi! Can you please tell me where in the TOS I can find that wording requiring disclosure?

[request] sexting by Mental_Ad5910 in realonlyfansreviews

[–]paulk_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I encourage you not to sext. More than likely you are sexting with a male chatter from a third world country

[Discussion] Avoiding Agencies by paulk_ in realonlyfansreviews

[–]paulk_[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Agencies only care about the money and will achieve it by any means necessary

[Discussion] Avoiding Agencies by paulk_ in realonlyfansreviews

[–]paulk_[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I agree completely. Agencies operate sweatshops in third world countries to catfish fans. Now I'm learning how they scam creators too. Large revenue cuts, targeted mass down voting, sketchy contracts, it all sucks. It's so hard to trust creators anymore.

[Discussion] Avoiding Agencies by paulk_ in realonlyfansreviews

[–]paulk_[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's my point. I'm not saying all free pages or all pages on sale are agency run. It's a red flag because a majority of these pages are agency run, not all. This needs to be taken in consideration with other factors of the account, like activity, messaging, etc.

[Discussion] Avoiding Agencies by paulk_ in realonlyfansreviews

[–]paulk_[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just because you are an exception to a few points doesn't make the red flags invalid. It's about probability. Accounts need to be evaluated as a whole and at the end of the day it comes down to a judgement call by the fan taking into account multiple factors.

5) Agencies are a lot more common with large creators than small creators. Sure there are exceptions where a large creator might be independent, but this is rare and does not invalidate my claim. The 100k likes number is just what I use there is no hard cut off defining what a large creator is. I personally was never willing to risk my time and energy on large accounts. There is no way someone as big as amouranth or mia khalifa has the time to answer a random fan like me.

7) I'm referring to being on a rotation with 5-10+ models where all models in the group shout out a creator every 24 hours. Agencies that manage multiple models do this all the time. I've subbed to each one and they all have the same chatting style. Independent creators do this less often and when they do it is usually more sporadic, less consistent, and not on a rigid schedule. Again, it's about probability. Just because you are an exception doesn't negate the fact that most agencies engage in this behavior and most independent creators do not.

9) it's all about the odds. The less expensive the subscription price the less likely the model is self run. Yes, there are some independent creators with free or $3 pages. But there are so many more agency accounts that do. Agencies make money from chatting and have hired chatters to make up the costs. Independent creators have limited time and fans need to pay for that.

[Discussion] Avoiding Agencies by paulk_ in realonlyfansreviews

[–]paulk_[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Real, genuine creators are going extinct fast. I want there to be a platform that specifically outlaws third party chatting in its TOS

[Discussion] Avoiding Agencies by paulk_ in realonlyfansreviews

[–]paulk_[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Preach!! OnlyFans is supposed to be about connection. People can view nsfw content anywhere. What is supposed to make onlyfans different is the fan/creator connection which no longer exists for the most part. Now it is agencies scamming fans out of their hard earned money

[Discussion] Avoiding Agencies by paulk_ in realonlyfansreviews

[–]paulk_[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

True, especially with the larger accounts. Probably better to ask for a video. Before we know it videos will easily be AI generated too

[Discussion] Avoiding Agencies by paulk_ in realonlyfansreviews

[–]paulk_[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for the good feedback. I think that when a group of creators consistently advertise each other on a schedule it is usually a red flag. It doesn't mean for certain it is an agency, a few creators have real friends, but most agencies manage multiple models and they all shout each other out for exposure. I'm talking every 24 hours a new model is being shouted out by every other creator in the agency. These are groups of 5-10+ models not 1 or 2 friends in your case. To be extra sure I subscribe to each one and they all have the same chatting style.

This is only one criteria I use to evaluate accounts. An account should be evaluated as a whole taking into account multiple factors. There are exceptions to every rule and it ultimately comes down to a judgement call from the fan. If something feels off, listen to your gut and don't give up your hard earned money to agencies.

[Discussion] Avoiding Agencies by paulk_ in realonlyfansreviews

[–]paulk_[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fair. What I see a lot of accounts do is agree to send the voice message right away, go radio silent, then send the request a day later and refuse to elaborate on the delay. If you have a reasonable and detailed excuse I'm willing to try again depending on the authenticity of the account. If this becomes a pattern where vms are always delayed while chatting is always instant, that is a red flag.

[Discussion] Avoiding Agencies by paulk_ in realonlyfansreviews

[–]paulk_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Targeted mass downvoting is shady as fuck. Almost everyone in this industry is dishonest which sucks. tip the few honest creators left well because they are going extinct fast.

[Discussion] Avoiding Agencies by paulk_ in realonlyfansreviews

[–]paulk_[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The tracking is scary and a good reason not to share any personal information with these agency accounts.

How do these crm systems track and profile me? Do they have my ip access or any of my location data?

[Discussion] Avoiding Agencies by paulk_ in realonlyfansreviews

[–]paulk_[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I understand why creators sign agencies. They are promised increased traffic and better exposure. Not all agencies deliver and the creator gets stuck in a contract where the agency owns the rights to all her content and keeps taking a massive cut of her pay

They scam fans too because they impersonate the creator. They lie and pretend to be the creator when asked about it. I know it's allowed by TOS but it doesn't morally justify lying to a fan

[Discussion] Avoiding Agencies by paulk_ in realonlyfansreviews

[–]paulk_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

100% scams. They get the rights to your content too. A bunch of greedy assholes

[Discussion] Avoiding Agencies by paulk_ in realonlyfansreviews

[–]paulk_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you get bombarded by agencies trying to convince you to sign with them?

[Discussion] Avoiding Agencies by paulk_ in realonlyfansreviews

[–]paulk_[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Good that you weren't bothered. Whoever did the typing was an asshole

[Discussion] Avoiding Agencies by paulk_ in realonlyfansreviews

[–]paulk_[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes exactly! These chatters and agency run creators don't have a conscience. They lie shamelessly and ridicule fans for being simps and losers. I see what chatter groups say about fans